User talk:Darth007

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Your edits are the subject of discussion at the Administrator's Noticeboard/Incidents at this thread. You may wish to comment there. UltraExactZZ ^Said ~ Did 13:21, 25 March 2010 (UTC)

March 2010

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Speedy deletion nomination of File:HTC Desire.jpg

A tag has been placed on File:HTC Desire.jpg requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section I7 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because it is a non-free image with a clearly invalid licensing tag; or it otherwise fails some part of the non-free content criteria.

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Orphaned non-free media (File:HTC_DesirePromo.jpg)

Thanks for uploading File:HTC_DesirePromo.jpg. The media description page currently specifies that it is non-free and may only be used on Wikipedia under a claim of fair use. However, it is currently orphaned, meaning that it is not used in any articles on Wikipedia. If the media was previously in an article, please go to the article and see why it was removed. You may add it back if you think that that will be useful. However, please note that media for which a replacement could be created are not acceptable for use on Wikipedia (see our policy for non-free media).

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HTC Desire

Hi there, could you please explain this edit to me? I'm unsure why you removed this image, especially since you removed a free image to replace it with a non-free version. Regards SWM (SoWhy[on]Mobile) 06:36, 21 July 2010 (UTC)

Hi again. Please do not undo my edits without explaining yours first. The image in question is copyrighted by HTC and per our non-free content criteria, we should never use any image as fair use if another, free image serves the same purpose. Please do not edit war over this. Regards SoWhy 09:24, 22 July 2010 (UTC)

I know you may have taken a while to create this image with your photoshop. I commend your work. However, this image has not been authorised by HTC. No edit war intended --Darth007 (talk) 13:32, 22 July 2010 (UTC)

I have not created the image nor is it PhotoShopped. It seems to be a photo made by one of our members. I mainly came here as an admin concerned over a potential copyright violation. But you seem to misunderstand our non-free content criteria: Wikipedia does not check whether HTC has authorized the image. In fact, the reason we used it is because the image you re-added is copyrighted to HTC while the replacement is not. Please read WP:NFCC#1 and explain how your edit is compatible with that policy. If you cannot or won't do so, I will nominate the copyrighted image for deletion. On a side note, if you do not intend to edit war, please stop restoring the image after people disagreed with that edit and instead use the talk page to discuss the issue. Regards SWM (SoWhy[on]Mobile) 15:26, 22 July 2010 (UTC)

Wikipedia has permission to use the original "free" HTC image for non-commercial use. Also is the replacement image fully illustrative of the product? We do not have a back view of the product. If the original free image was fine then why replace with a homemade and less illustrative one? I hope you are as thorough in scrutiny with the individual who uploaded the replacement image. --Darth007 (talk) 19:57, 22 July 2010 (UTC)

Per our policies, "for non-commercial use only" is equal to "non-free" and as such those images are only allowed within the strict non-free content criteria only. See WP:NFC for further details. I grant you that the missing back of the phone is a valid concern but it does not make the original image "free" as far as our policies are concerned. We should discuss this in more detail though, since I don't think that the back of the phone is important enough to make the replacement image less useful. Regards SoWhy 20:09, 22 July 2010 (UTC)

There are two issues here. Is the original image valid under WP:NFC policy?; Is the repalcement image less illustrative?; Rather than enter into a discussion about interpretaion of policy or semantics, you simply need to consider if original image has been repeated by the replacement image. --Darth007 (talk) 20:30, 23 July 2010 (UTC)

Of course the original image is valid, as it is free content. IF and only IF there is no suitable free content alternative available do we use the non-free version. The free version is fine, it shows what the phone looks like. On another, albeit similar note, for the image, do not revert to a higher quality non-free image, it it per our policies to use as small of possible of non-free images. Allmightyduck  What did I do wrong? 20:09, 26 July 2010 (UTC)

I'm content with the smaller image. I requested the size to be 115 KB not 15 KB as the reduced image as it appeared a little pixelated and blurred (115 KB size appears to be the norm on most articles). Please consider "contextual signicance" under WP:NFC. I've stated the reasons quite clearly above. I do not wish to enter into a debate or edit war. --Darth007 (talk) 22:40, 26 July 2010 (UTC)

Please double indent your comments so that they are a reply to mine, first off. Second, you did not reduce it to 115KB, but rather to 1.29 MB. Could be a waste of bandwidth for both Wikimedia servers, and for dial-up users. The 1.29 MB size equates to a 2,000 X ~2,000 pixel image, which wouldn't even fit on my 17 inch monitor, let alone in an infobox. I reduced the image size to be about the size rendered in the only article it is used in. No offense, but your reason "Is the original image valid under WP:NFC policy?" appears to be a misunderstanding of policy. If HTC sold you a phone, you are definitely allowed to take a picture of your nice new $200-ish phone. Policy number 1 of WP:NFC is " Non-free content is used only where no free equivalent is available, or could be created, that would serve the same encyclopedic purpose." The prior picture, or one easily created, would "serve the same encyclopedic purpose". This means a non-free image is unneeded. On another similar but different point, as SoWhy said, is the back of the phone that necessary? Allmightyduck  What did I do wrong? 23:53, 26 July 2010 (UTC)

Yes the back of the phone is necessary. As I explained, The article refers to aspects of the phone e.g. body shell, camera, flash, micro USB, Sense UI etc. The replacement image does not illustrate these aspects therefore rendering it less informative and unable to repeat the original image. Please note I reverted the image to reduced version.--Darth007 (talk) 09:39, 27 July 2010 (UTC)

Like the edit war notice below, consensus & policy is in favor of the free image. If you want a picture with the back of the phone visible, be bold and fix it! Allmightyduck  What did I do wrong? 02:34, 28 July 2010 (UTC)

I'm not against the free image. I want a free image, but not at the cost of less information in that image.

My reasons are very clear and I repeat. The article refers to aspects of the phone e.g. body shell, camera, flash, micro USB, Sense UI etc. The replacement image does not illustrate these aspects therefore rendering it less informative and unable to repeat the original image.

Perhaps if everyone was not a little over zealous in favour of the free image, took a step back, and actually addressed these details.

The arguments have not been good so far for the free image. Dismissing my argument for the original (albeit a reduced version) by saying "it's just the back of the phone" is a rather patronising tone and lacks any objectivity.

What is the Wikipedia ethos? Free image does not override contextual significance and helping to understand the subject and serve the encyclopedic purpose. Are you all missing the point here? "Non-free content is used only if its presence would significantly increase readers' understanding of the topic, and its omission would be detrimental to that understanding."

If the replacement free image was similar to the (reduced) original then I would not object. It may be just "the back of the phone" but I'm trying to uphold a Wikipedia priniciple. --Darth007 (talk) 13:43, 28 July 2010 (UTC)

At this point, I seriously advise you to drop the stick and back slowly away from the horse carcass. Allmightyduck  What did I do wrong? 14:11, 29 July 2010 (UTC)

Please stop your editing until consensus is reached. Allmightyduck  What did I do wrong? 18:11, 29 July 2010 (UTC)

Looks like consensus appears to be moving in favour of more info in accordance with WP:NFCC policy. Whoever uploaded the new images is doing a good job. Wasn't me in a different guise btw.--Darth007 (talk) 01:18, 7 August 2010 (UTC)

July 2010

You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war according to the reverts you have made on HTC Desire. Note that the three-revert rule prohibits making more than three reversions on a single page within a 24-hour period. Additionally, users who perform several reversions in content disputes may be blocked for edit warring even if they do not technically violate the three-revert rule. When in dispute with another editor you should first try to discuss controversial changes to work towards wording and content that gains a consensus among editors. Should that prove unsuccessful, you are encouraged to seek dispute resolution, and in some cases it may be appropriate to request page protection. If the edit warring continues, you may be blocked from editing without further notice. Courcelles (talk) 11:24, 27 July 2010 (UTC)

Let me make this very clear. You are edit warring against both consensus and policy. Please stop, or you will be blocked. Courcelles (talk) 11:34, 27 July 2010 (UTC)

I'm afraid you trying to bury the argument. Administrators "ganging up" on one editor may constitute as "administrator abuse" not consensus. This is Wikipedia, please remember your values.

I am seeking a resolution by focussing on policy policy. I have not had an adequate response. In particular, Point 8 - Contextual significance. "Non-free content is used only if its presence would significantly increase readers' understanding of the topic, and its omission would be detrimental to that understanding."

Please respond regarding point 8 of WP:NFCC policy i.e. "Contextual significance". --Darth007 (talk) 13:28, 29 July 2010 (UTC)

Fair use rationale for File:HTC_DesirePromo.jpg

Thanks for uploading or contributing to File:HTC_DesirePromo.jpg. I notice the image page specifies that the image is being used under fair use but there is no explanation or rationale as to why its use in Wikipedia articles constitutes fair use. In addition to the boilerplate fair use template, you must also write out on the image description page a specific explanation or rationale for why using this image in each article is consistent with fair use. Suggestions on how to do so can be found here.

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Please stop

I have asked you before but it seems I have to do so again: Please do not restore your edits when people challenge them - discuss them on the talk page instead. You keep on restoring your preferred image to HTC Desire despite a number of people disagreeing with you. Per the bold, revert, discuss (BRD) cycle, your edit (B) was reverted (R) and you should proceed with discussing it (D) and not simply re-reverting it (R). This will not be helpful at all. I have started a discussion on the talk page since you seem unwilling to do so. Please participate at Talk:HTC Desire. Regards SoWhy 06:55, 13 August 2010 (UTC)

Replaceable fair use File:HTC Wildfire.jpg

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Replaceable fair use File:HTC Desire 01.jpg

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Replaceable fair use File:HTC Desire Front & Rear.jpg

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Possibly unfree File:Darth007.jpg

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File:Sangster's.jpg listed for deletion

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"HTC Desire (Disambiguation)" listed at Redirects for discussion

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