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Pole, Botswana moved to draftspace

An article you recently created, Pole, Botswana, is not suitable as written to remain published. It needs more citations from reliable, independent sources. (?) Information that can't be referenced should be removed (verifiability is of central importance on Wikipedia). I've moved your draft to draftspace (with a prefix of "Draft:" before the article title) where you can incubate the article with minimal disruption. When you feel the article meets Wikipedia's general notability guideline and thus is ready for mainspace, please click on the "Submit your draft for review!" button at the top of the page. John B123 (talk) 21:18, 19 July 2021 (UTC)

Vukwi moved to draftspace

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Relisting Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Lalitham Sundaram

Relisting can only done by the closer of the discussion. Since you are the nominator and an associated party in the deletion discussion, it's prudent for you to wait for someone else to relist it. Jupitus Smart 20:37, 22 July 2021 (UTC)

Makes sense. Forgot that when relisting. My bad! Eternal Shadow Talk 22:11, 22 July 2021 (UTC)

Ship Brooklyn Article

Hello Eternal Shadow, Are there any specific things that I can do to make the submission possible? Thanks

OaklandTempleHill Thank you for asking. Yes, in fact there are things you can do to lead to an accept. The submission itself is generally pretty good but cleanup is needed.

Note that the submission is quite large and may be trimmed later. Eternal Shadow Talk 19:15, 23 July 2021 (UTC)

Draft:Night Tempo

Hi, can you help me understand why Draft:Night Tempo was declined? I know you put that that low peak on the Oricon charts does not do enough, but the article has multiple sources about him which I put after the last time it was declined. reppoptalk 22:26, 24 July 2021 (UTC)

Reppop, No amount of editing can overcome a lack of notability. It isn’t shown the submission passes WP:MUSICBIO, even with the new sources. Eternal Shadow Talk 20:13, 5 August 2021 (UTC)

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Re: [1]

Hi,

I want to inform you that Theroadislong has been reviewing this article: [2] since March. And I really took time to add more credible references from the National dailies in Nigeria. The only thing he asked me to do is to remove the Amazon reference which I did. But I'm surprised that at the point of approving the article he passed it on to you. And you are coming up with more issues.

I think this is very unfair.

I will appreciate your response going forward.


Segun. Segunoloye (talk) 14:46, 26 July 2021 (UTC)

Segunoloye, It still isn’t shown how the subject passes WP:NACTOR. The references don’t show enough WP:SIGCOV. The references need to be severely expanded, or the submission will be rejected with no resubmit option. Eternal Shadow Talk 20:18, 5 August 2021 (UTC)

Request on 16:17:34, 26 July 2021 for assistance on AfC submission by Gingeksace


Hi, I am writing to ask you to help me a bit to fix my article as needed. I worked on it but I am not able to polish it very well. Thank you a lot. Best wishes.Gingeksace (talk) 16:17, 26 July 2021 (UTC)


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Nomination of Revista de Derecho de la Universidad Nacional del Altiplano de Puno for deletion

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Draft:Belarusian chess

Hello, Eternal Shadow!

You declined submission of my https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Belarusian_chess The reason mentioned is: This submission is not adequately supported by reliable sources. And you have also left a comment: If it is notable then there would have to be more secondary sources. Eternal Shadow Talk 18:26, 23 July 2021 (UTC) I wonder, is it because the sources are only in Belarusian and Russian and there is no a single source in English? That's a pity if it is really so. The sources used are the publications in leading Belarusian and Russian printed and electronic media, both public and private. There are no other sources in English and other languages because the subject of the article is mostly known only in the CIS states, mainly in Belarus and Russia. If you have any questions or advice, please let me know. Thank you in advance.

Megaman GT (talk) 10:28, 27 July 2021 (UTC)

Megaman GT, that was not the reason for the decline. The reason was because it uses primary sources, including ones that exist to promote the game, such as it’s own website. I will bring this one to the AFC project talk page. Eternal Shadow Talk 20:25, 5 August 2021 (UTC)

Thank you

Thank you for your help!

Vedlagt (talk) 06:26, 28 July 2021 (UTC)

Draft:Felipe Pimentel

Hi, I'm a Wikipedia checkuser in Portuguese and I've confirmed the relationship Monicanunez13 (talk · contribs) and Jsmithn22. Again, it returns to make advertisements like this. Edmond Dantès d'un message? 23:40, 28 July 2021 (UTC)

Conde Edmond Dantès, I recommend you open a investigation. Eternal Shadow Talk 20:11, 5 August 2021 (UTC)

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Thank you for the information, I will try to get an actual post approved, thank you. 



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Request on 07:46:09, 5 August 2021 for assistance on AfC submission by Rus Investigator


Hello. Thank for your review of Draft:Marathon Group (Russian company). As I think, I made text more neutral now. Can you see it again? Again thanks. Rus Investigator (talk) 07:46, 5 August 2021 (UTC)

Rus Investigator (talk) 07:46, 5 August 2021 (UTC)

Rus Investigator, I think it is more neutral now. I will let someone else provide a second opinion though. Eternal Shadow Talk 16:53, 5 August 2021 (UTC)
Hello. Please, tell me, what I must do to continue restoration of article? Is it right to send it to review again? Rus Investigator (talk) 05:32, 25 August 2021 (UTC)

J.T. Patten

Hello Eternal Shadow,

I have worked on this Draft again: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:J.T._Patten

Can you please have a look and accept if it the tone is neutral now? If it is not, then please tell me what needs to be changed.

Thank youNPFictionLibrarian (talk) 20:33, 5 August 2021 (UTC)

NPFictionLibrarian, appears a bit better but still has issues. Still needs to remove some parts in the “military and government writing” and “books” sections. I recommend a rewrite possibly, or more declines may be on the way. I highly recommend you read WP:NPOV and WP:PEACOCK. Probably has too many books listed in the books section as well. Should be turned into prose or limited to just three. Eternal Shadow Talk 20:39, 5 August 2021 (UTC)

Murder of Lorraine Cox

Hi Eternal Shadow, If the sources are okay in Draft:Murder of Lorraine Cox is there anything else I can do to help it become accepted? Thanks for your help. Pompancake (talk) 16:54, 6 August 2021 (UTC)

Pompancake, there are not much issues with the references (none of them are unreliable) but notability is a bit borderline. It never hurts to add more references. Also I recommend not underlining section titles. Eternal Shadow Talk 16:58, 6 August 2021 (UTC)

Faizan Arif

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Faizan_Arif

PLease look at this draft now. It doesn't look like advertisement now. I have removed peacock and weasel terms. Weatherforyou (talk) 09:06, 16 August 2021 (UTC)

Request on 22:04:55, 19 August 2021 for assistance on AfC submission by Arabustarecords


Hello, my submission for https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Tchiss_Lopes was declined with the following comment: "Interviews are not enough to indicate notability. Aside from the interviews there is little WP:SIGCOV in the sources." Please note that the main source of the article is not an interview but a published booklet of a very reputable German record label called Analog Africa. Also, the second main source is again not an interview but an article written by Vik Sohonie, founder of Ostinato Records, a Grammy-nominated label focusing on music from Africa's past. Please let me know. Thank you.

Arabustarecords (talk) 22:04, 19 August 2021 (UTC)

Canary Media Draft Rejection

Hi Eternal Shadow,

I was hoping you could provide some clarification on why the https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Canary_Media page was rejected.

You mentioned it reads more like an advertisement, but it was modeled off of other agencies that were included in the https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Non-profit_journalism page, such as https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/InsideClimate_News and https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Marshall_Project which seem to have been approved with no issues. Any insight you could provide amends I could make would be most appreciated!

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Georgia Storm FC Rejection

Hello, @EternalShadow: I am having trouble getting this page approved. I show that on the football/notability page that Georgia Storm meets requirements. It says "Teams that play in a the national cup" and the Storm is competing in US Open Cup which is the national cup of the US. Also, teams in our league, Appalachian FC and North Alabama SC, have been approved along the same merits. Please let me know if I need to make changes to the article. Kevinw33 (talk) 12:12, 14 October 2021 (UTC)

@Kevinw33: It was a duplicate of a draft that was already rejected. It also does not play in a WP:FPL. Just because other teams in the league have articles does not mean that that one should too. If you would like, I could take this to The AfC talk page. Eternal Shadow Talk 21:47, 14 October 2021 (UTC)
@EternalShadow:, I don't bring up the other teams in the league to mean that Georgia Storm should also have one, but it is odd that so many teams in the league have gotten their pages approved (some recently) but I am having such trouble with this one. I bring them up to get thoughts on if there is something wrong with the article or if it could be approved due to its standing and importance in the community versus merely a soccer team. Kevinw33 (talk) 14:08, 18 October 2021 (UTC)
@Kevinw33: I think the referencing should be improved. I rejected it for being a duplicate of a already rejected article. I am going to take this to the AfC talk page. Eternal Shadow Talk 21:43, 18 October 2021 (UTC)

A cupcake for you!

Well, I give you a cupcake. TylerMagee (talk) 11:07, 16 October 2021 (UTC)

Maria Gloria Dominguez page

Hello,

Thanks for your comment on my page for Maria Gloria Dominguez. When you say media mention articles, does that refer to articles that are about MGD and that she did not author?

Thanks Cabm.2020 (talk) 17:10, 19 October 2021 (UTC)cabm.2020

Cabm.2020 Yes, articles that she did not author are reliable media mentions. Eternal Shadow Talk 22:05, 20 October 2021 (UTC)

I added 7 references where she was mentioned in the media. Would you be able to review it? Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by Cabm.2020 (talk • contribs) 17:36, 25 October 2021 (UTC)

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While re-reviewing the draft page Draft:Kanakam Kaamini Kalaham you had mentioned that, "References may need to be expanded, and perhaps this submission may be accepted near the time of the film’s release." Now I have expanded the article and kept it for re-review. Moreover the film is going to be released in 9 days. So I request you to kindly re-review the article and move it to the article space if possible. Sonal Mathew (talk) 20:51, 2 November 2021 (UTC)

Draft:Bikram Malati

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This draft page has extended protection on it because of a teenage sockpuppeteer who is determined to have a Wikipedia article on himself. And you moved one of their sockpuppet user pages to this page, defeating the purpose of the protection.

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Hello!

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As I look at old draft articles, I see your edits frequently and think, "I haven't seen Eternal Shadow editing in a long time". So, this is just a message saying that I hope you are just busy with off-line life and hope that you are well. Please come back to editing Wikipedia should you ever want to help out again, we could really use your assistance. Be well! Liz Read! Talk! 17:54, 22 January 2022 (UTC)

Welcome back, Eternal Shadow! Not to see your name in the page history. Liz Read! Talk! 03:16, 29 January 2022 (UTC)

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insurgency in punjab.

look are you denying that over 25,000 confirmed innocents were killed by government troops since jaswant singh khalra found heavy proof during the insurgency period that over 25,000 innocent Sikhs were killed in fake encounters and it is well known in many villages that all militant groups combined had less than 4000 during all years of the insurgency and many indian forces were slayed during real encounters and not just some random guy they found and shooting him than calling the media by saying all sorts of stuff. if you need some sources that arent "biased" a clean direct one would be ensaaf.org since they have been studying and finding "missing persons".

plus 8k militants sounds like a made up number since over 2000 confirmed were innocent Sikhs and that leaves us with 6000 and these 6000 some were people who helped the militants but many by force. i am neutral on the topic since some militants have killed innocents but that does not change the fact that large amounts of innocent sikhs were killed in even greater numbers. why not change the operation bluestar page since there are dozens of hindu nationalists changing the page every time. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sikh-Historian21 (talk • contribs) 22:28, 30 January 2022 (UTC)

You still need to provide a source and write from a neutral point of view. See WP:NOR and WP:NPOV. Eternal Shadow Talk 23:44, 31 January 2022 (UTC)

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This means we have an active pool of about 450 to address the backlog. We cannot rely on a few to do most of the work as that inevitably leads to burnout. A fairly experienced reviewer can usually do a review in a few minutes. If every active reviewer would patrol just one article per day, the backlog would very quickly disappear.

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If you are no longer very active on Wikipedia or you no longer wish to be part of the New Page Reviewer user group, please consider asking any admin to remove you from the list. This will enable NPP to have a better overview of its performance and what improvements need to be made to the process and its software.

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The Bugle: Issue CXCIII, May 2022

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New Page Patrol newsletter June 2022

New Page Review queue June 2022

Hello Eternal Shadow,

Backlog status

At the time of the last newsletter (No.27, May 2022), the backlog was approaching 16,000, having shot up rapidly from 6,000 over the prior two months. The attention the newsletter brought to the backlog sparked a flurry of activity. There was new discussion on process improvements, efforts to invite new editors to participate in NPP increased and more editors requested the NPP user right so they could help, and most importantly, the number of reviews picked up and the backlog decreased, dipping below 14,000[a] at the end of May.

Since then, the news has not been so good. The backlog is basically flat, hovering around 14,200. I wish I could report the number of reviews done and the number of new articles added to the queue. But the available statistics we have are woefully inadequate. The only real number we have is the net queue size.[b]

In the last 30 days, the top 100 reviewers have all made more than 16 patrols (up from 8 last month), and about 70 have averaged one review a day (up from 50 last month).

While there are more people doing more reviews, many of the ~730 with the NPP right are doing little. Most of the reviews are being done by the top 50 or 100 reviewers. They need your help. We appreciate every review done, but please aim to do one a day (on average, or 30 a month).

Backlog drive

A backlog reduction drive, coordinated by buidhe and Zippybonzo, will be held from July 1 to July 31. Sign up here. Barnstars will be awarded.

TIP – New school articles

Many new articles on schools are being created by new users in developing and/or non-English-speaking countries. The authors are probably not even aware of Wikipedia's projects and policy pages. WP:WPSCH/AG has some excellent advice and resources specifically written for these users. Reviewers could consider providing such first-time article creators with a link to it while also mentioning that not all schools pass the GNG and that elementary schools are almost certainly not notable.

Misc

There is a new template available, {{NPP backlog}}, to show the current backlog. You can place it on your user or talk page as a reminder:

Very high unreviewed pages backlog: 9188 articles, as of 06:00, 31 May 2024 (UTC), according to DatBot

There has been significant discussion at WP:VPP recently on NPP-related matters (Draftification, Deletion, Notability, Verifiability, Burden). Proposals that would somewhat ease the burden on NPP aren't gaining much traction, although there are suggestions that the role of NPP be fundamentally changed to focus only on major CSD-type issues.

Reminders
  • Consider staying informed on project issues by putting the project discussion page on your watchlist.
  • If you have noticed a user with a good understanding of Wikipedia notability and deletion, suggest they help the effort by placing {{subst:NPR invite}} on their talk page.
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Notes
  1. ^ not including another ~6,000 redirects
  2. ^ The number of weekly reviews reported in the NPP feed includes redirects, which are not included in the backlog we primarily track.

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