User talk:Robbykaelin

Welcome![edit]

Hello, Robbykaelin, and welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for your contributions. I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Unfortunately, one or more of the pages you created, such as Dean Kaelin, may not conform to some of Wikipedia's guidelines, and may not be retained.

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Speedy deletion nomination of Dean Kaelin[edit]

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A tag has been placed on Dean Kaelin requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section A7 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the article appears to be about a band or musician, but it does not indicate how or why the subject is important or significant: that is, why an article about that subject should be included in an encyclopedia. Under the criteria for speedy deletion, such articles may be deleted at any time. Please read more about what is generally accepted as notable.

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July 2014[edit]

Please do not remove speedy deletion notices from pages you have created yourself, as you did with Dean Kaelin. If you believe the page should not be deleted, you may contest the deletion by clicking on the button that says: Contest this speedy deletion, which appears inside the speedy deletion notice. This will allow you to make your case on the article's talk page. Administrators will consider your reasoning before deciding what to do with the article. Thank you. TLA 3x ♭ → ♮ 23:47, 6 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Dean Kaelin (Musician)[edit]

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Proposed deletion of Dean Kaelin (Musician)[edit]

The article Dean Kaelin (Musician) has been proposed for deletion because it appears to have no references. Under Wikipedia policy, this newly created biography of a living person will be deleted unless it has at least one reference to a reliable source that directly supports material in the article.

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Managing a conflict of interest[edit]

Hello, Robbykaelin. We welcome your contributions to Wikipedia, but if you are affiliated with some of the people, places or things you have written about in the article Dean Kaelin, you may have a conflict of interest.

All editors are required to comply with Wikipedia's neutral point of view content policy. People who are very close to a subject often have a distorted view of it, which may cause them to inadvertently edit in ways that make the article either too flattering or too disparaging. People with a close connection to a subject are not absolutely prohibited from editing about that subject, but they need to be especially careful about ensuring their edits are verified by reliable sources and writing with as little bias as possible.

If you are very close to a subject, here are some ways you can reduce the risk of problems:

Avoid or exercise great caution when editing or creating articles related to you, your organization, or its competitors, as well as projects and products they are involved with.
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Exercise great caution so that you do not accidentally breach Wikipedia's content policies.

Please familiarize yourself with relevant content policies and guidelines, especially those pertaining to neutral point of view, verifiability of information, and autobiographies.

For information on how to contribute to Wikipedia when you have a conflict of interest, please see our frequently asked questions for organizations. Thank you. NQ talk 02:20, 7 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

July 2014[edit]

Hello, I appreciate your response in regards to the proposed wikipedia page, Dean Kaelin. I am Dean's Marketing Director, and as you can read in what has been proposed for his page, all of the information in there in factual and not of my or others' opinions. I understand that my having the same last name as Dean could pose a conflict of interest so I am wondering what would be the best route to take to create a page for Dean Kaelin? Would you rather my co-Marketing Director put it under his account and name? How would you like us to proceed? Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Robbykaelin (talk • contribs)

(←) Hi, I can see that your proposed article on Dean has been deleted. If I remember correctly, the article did not cite any sources. Here are a few pointers:

First and foremost, you must establish notability. Read WP:GNG
Do not use self-published material from a company or group as the base of a new draft article.
Summarize what independent, published, reliable sources have said about him.
Good sources typically include newspaper articles and websites, magazine profiles, authoritative expert websites, and academic journals. Poor sources typically include self-published blogs, press releases, and sources with a direct connection to the subject.
Other editors must be able to verify whether information can be backed up by a reliable source. This is done by citing your sources.

Regarding COI, I suggest you read Wikipedia:Plain and simple conflict of interest guide. Articles that do not meet notability guidelines and do not cite reliable published sources are likely to be deleted, even if created by someone with no apparent COI.

Note: Last name alone isn't the only factor that determines a Conflict Of Interest. Anyone closely associated with him poses a COI which includes your co-Markering Director.

Regards, NQ talk 08:14, 7 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Reply[edit]

Hi, thanks for message.

COI editing isn't actually banned, it's just that such editors are unlikely to find it easy to write neutral encyclopaedic text. The name you edit under doesn't matter (as long as it isn't the same as that of a company or product, in which case it leads to an indefinite block). Using multiple accounts leads to other issues, best to stick with this one.
The name of the article should be Dean Kaelin. Tags such as (musician) are only used to distinguish different people with the same names
You did not provide independent verifiable sources to enable us to verify the facts and show that he meets the notability guidelines. It is now Wikipedia policy that biographical articles about living people must have independent verifiable references, or they will be deleted. Sites associated with the person or his publishers are not reliable sources
Notability is not transferable. He has to be notable in his own right. The fact that he has performed with notable artists doesn't make him notable
There shouldn't be any url links in the article, only in the "References" or "External links" sections
it was written in a promotional tone. Articles must be neutral and encyclopaedic. Examples of unsourced claims presented as fact include: which is used throughout the world... Many have performed on Broadway... signed major record deals... performed at every major Theme Park in the U.S... performed all over the world... love and mastery of music began at a very young age... He found joy in playing songs... and so on.
Make sure that you write in your own words. Text copied or closely paraphrased from any website will be deleted unless the website states clearly and explicitly that its text is public domain.

Jimfbleak - talk to me? 11:49, 7 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you[edit]

Jimfbleak, Thank you for your response. I will go through and edit the "opinionated" parts and be sure to include independent verifiable references. I will exclude the url links from the page and be sure to rephrase some parts as to not come off in a promotional tone. Thank you!