User talk:Rosiestep

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I'm going to Wikimania! Hope to see you there!
Keeping an eye on things around here.

Content production[edit]

Just looking through the new pages. Content production seems to be at an all time low. Just 17 articles produced between 0:00 and 1:00 and just 25 between 2:00 and 3:00 am. That's exceedingly poor seems as I used to create more than that in 10 minutes! Wikipedia goes quieter in production during our night time here. I'd be interested to see figures on the nationality of people creating new articles. It seems that extremely few Americans are creating new articles. Right now I'm feeling that stubbing needs to be done again.♦ Dr. Blofeld 06:21, 25 April 2015 (UTC)

@Dr. Blofeld: Interesting, about the quietness during those hours. I wonder if it's a fluke or a trend or common? We both know there are jillions of stubs still to create: people, locales, museums, foo production in foo country, etc. I have a whole chunk of work in Asturias which I haven't finished. And of course, Diccionario biográfico, geográfico e histórico de Venezuela sits patiently on my nightstand... all those military generals waiting for their place in history to be documented on Wikipedia. Lol. What about you? --Rosiestep (talk) 14:16, 25 April 2015 (UTC)
It seems it's a common trend, things go quiet on here in new articles around midnight GMT. And even then a lot of the new articles coming in seem to be the typical tat, you know what I mean, football seasons, crappy bands etc. Articles which are not really all that important. Given the amount of solid notable traditional articles missing from around the world there's precious few really creating the sort of articles we produce. Some days I've looked and been quite impressed with the mix coming in though, it's a very mixed bag. I think we do need editors actively stubbing articles from other wikis, even smallish stubs with just a sourced fact or two. I've been thinking about trying to breathe new life into the WP:Transwiki I started and try to get us to use more of its pages for creating missing lists. Wikipedia:WikiProject Intertranswiki/French/Buildings for instance. For Spain, feel free to list missing Asturias/Spain articles at Wikipedia:WikiProject Intertranswiki/Spanish/Buildings. Think how many missing articles there are in total!! I think it's one of the most needed projects on here if we're really to address systematic bias. Yes, the Venezuelan bios of course, I've also been meaning to resume with my Argentine cinema and film lists, just not enough time to do everything!! After I'm done with my Kubrick books I'm thinking of going back to stubbing work and keeping things as simple as possible.♦ Dr. Blofeld 14:29, 25 April 2015 (UTC)
@Dr. Blofeld: WikiProject Intertranswiki is extremely important. I think the easiest way to generate the redlists is from Wikidata, such as this one for women writers, right? —Rosiestep (talk) 15:06, 25 April 2015 (UTC)
Yes, exactly like that! How did you create it?♦ Dr. Blofeld 16:13, 25 April 2015 (UTC)
Dr. Blofeld I had stumbled across Wikipedia:WikiProject Women artists/Redlinks from Wikidata during the WikiWomen's History Month blitz and posted a query about it here, after which, le voila, WPWW got its own Wikidata redlist. This section also contains instructions for how to generate the list. --Rosiestep (talk) 16:29, 25 April 2015 (UTC)
I'm lurking and couldn't agree more that more "content" articles need to be produced. I just discovered another list Wikipedia:Requested articles/Arts and entertainment/Visual arts because it popped up on my new file on Roger von Gunten. Would that the lists were in a centralized location, but it seems one must "stumble across" them. I have Watchlisted both of these. (P.S. Rosiestep, von Gunten is fascinating. The weird thing is, I cam upon him because of our piece on Jomí Garcia, but Jomí wrote about him before the whole "what defines art" situation occurred. I'm leaving it for a day to see if the redlinks to "what links here" articles go away.) SusunW (talk) 16:15, 25 April 2015 (UTC)

──────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────── SusunW, that's exactly right -- there are redlists everywhere -- and you have to "stumble" across them. (I'll take a look at Gunten et al in a minute.) Dr. Blofeld, It's almost like we need WP:WikiProject Redlists, which I've had half a mind to create for a long time. --Rosiestep (talk) 16:29, 25 April 2015 (UTC)

We have WP:Missing encyclopedia articles of course, but that's usually only for covering encyclopedias with a set number of articles. I've love to see a full list of missing articles from other wikis on here. I'm not sure how much time it's worth spending on though as few people are going to help start them. It's probably best to work on a topic at a time and copy some lists from other wiki categories and go through and quickly blue link them and so on. The French chateaus one is one I'll be working on anyway. ♦ Dr. Blofeld 16:34, 25 April 2015 (UTC)
Yes, there is "Missing encyclopedia articles", but there are other lists of missing articles all over the place... and we've only mentioned a few of those within this section. And, of course, lots of us have sandboxes full of redlinks. People ask me all the time: "how do you figure out what to write about?" I chuckle inside before I respond, respectfully, always hoping to inspire a new Wikipedian. —Rosiestep (talk) 16:47, 25 April 2015 (UTC)
I know LOL!! So many people think wikipedia is nearing completion!!! Every article I start like that Dominican Republican writer turns up mostly red links! That's why it's so important to start them in the first place for the knock on effect of finding more missing ones! Yes, I agree, one massive neatly organized list would be ideal, although a missing from other wiki one would soon become out of date.♦ Dr. Blofeld 16:56, 25 April 2015 (UTC)
"Missing from other wikis" redlists could be re-generated on a regular basis through Wikidata -- I bet a bot could do that. And store them on Wikipedia:WikiProject Intertranswiki subpages. Of course, the magnitude of bits and bytes would be enormous to infinity. Let's stick to museums and chateaus plus an abbey or two. lol —Rosiestep (talk) 17:11, 25 April 2015 (UTC)

Can you find more on San Isidro, Cabañas and improve sourcing? The history needs checking I'm not completely sure if some of the territory terms have translated well. Do we keep "caseria" or change to village too in admin divisions? Not sure. I wanted to see how many red links could be found on such a place and look at all those rivers and hills!♦ Dr. Blofeld 20:54, 25 April 2015 (UTC)

Dr. Blofeld Not finding much on San Isidro.--Rosiestep (talk) 03:54, 26 April 2015 (UTC)

Haciendas[edit]

Dr. Blofeld - Do you want to expand Hacienda Santa Rosa de Lima?

We've driven these on the Ruta de haciendas [1] This link gives 73 [2] SusunW (talk) 06:05, 26 April 2015 (UTC)

Do these have articles on Spanish wiki? If so please list them on the Wikipedia:WikiProject Intertranswiki/Spanish/Buildings page. Yup Rosie, will expand the one you mentioned shortly.♦ Dr. Blofeld 09:39, 26 April 2015 (UTC)

I've done what I could but couldn't find any reliable sources to source two paragraphs. In fact I couldn't find any solid sources apart from the one you used!♦ Dr. Blofeld 10:15, 26 April 2015 (UTC)

SusunW, so cool that you've driven by them. I may have but wouldn't have known that I did... I spent almost a month in Yucatan/Quintana Roo a while back. The list of 73 is extremely interesting -- again pointing out how much is missing from Wikipedia. I will bet each of those 73 has an interesting story; and I wonder if there are RS for each. I found this government page and this Universidad Autónoma de Yucatán page, which will help in planning the hacienda project. In addition to individual hacienda articles, the project needs Henequen production in Yucatán or Henequen industry in Yucatán (es:Industria henequenera en Yucatán) and Hacienda henequenera to make sense of things. Thoughts? Also pinging Thelma who may know of some students/faculty/others who may be interested in working on this. --Rosiestep (talk) 17:53, 26 April 2015 (UTC)

Dr. Blofeld "Henequen production..." or "Henequen industry..."? --Rosiestep (talk) 17:57, 26 April 2015 (UTC)

Probably industry in this case, dunno.♦ Dr. Blofeld 18:16, 26 April 2015 (UTC)

Good job starting it. That sort of article is exactly the sort of "hidden" one I was talking about, regional case studies of industries. So valuable.♦ Dr. Blofeld 20:47, 26 April 2015 (UTC)

Thank you! Didn't realize it could turn out to be such a big project. --Rosiestep (talk) 02:05, 27 April 2015 (UTC)

@Rosiestep: and @Dr. Blofeld: sorry, been without power for the last 5 hours. Nothing like 100F and no air. Ugh! I had worked my preliminary way through about 2/3 of the list, so will see if I can finish it. There are a lot of them on the Spanish site. I'll post what I am finding here. Definitely industry, it was at one time this was the richest place in the Americas. Henequin, green gold. Let me get to it and keep my fingers crossed that the power stays on. SusunW (talk) 22:04, 26 April 2015 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Boite (river)[edit]

Symbol question.svg Hello! Your submission of Boite (river) at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and some issues with it may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! — Rod talk 08:56, 27 April 2015 (UTC)

Sorry - my error. Please ignore the comment above.— Rod talk 09:10, 27 April 2015 (UTC)
No worries! --Rosiestep (talk) 01:35, 28 April 2015 (UTC)

Sofía Montenegro[edit]

I finished the article I was working on for Montenegro. There is one source that might be helpful, but I could not access it. I put it in as external links. It says it is accessible through library membership, but it did not like my US membership. Do not know if that is because my library is not part of their linked group or because I was accessing it from Mexico, even though the library is in the US. If you have time to look at the piece or can access the source, I would appreciate it. Now that I am done with it, can move on to the haciendas. SusunW (talk) 01:00, 28 April 2015 (UTC)

Hi Susun, Looks very good at first blush but I'll look at it more closely as soon as I can, hopefully tonight. I'm at a conference in San Diego and being pulled away for evening activities. --Rosiestep (talk) 01:35, 28 April 2015 (UTC)
Susun, nope, couldn't access it. Not sure why. --Rosiestep (talk) 17:03, 28 April 2015 (UTC)

DYK for Yazd Atash Behram[edit]

 — Crisco 1492 (talk) 08:02, 28 April 2015 (UTC)

Wikimania talk!!![edit]

Yep, brilliant. I have not got the travel sorted, but I'm cool with that. If we do get together a project proposal then we could add that into the proposed costs. I see the opportunity still to "do something". I have been quiet but I intend to contribute. (I gave a joint Wikimania paper in Washington on the day my daughter got married so I had to do my bit via video .... so its not the first time). At the moment my wife is standing to be an M.P. so I'm getting sucked in to that. Maybe we could have another skype but I will do some writing first. I have still been quietly chipping away at picking out the last few women from the British records of the 19th century and Lydia Sellon is one of the last ... but she's not a writer. Oh and I started Qian Xiuling which got one of the top DYK hit rates this month Victuallers (talk) 21:58, 28 April 2015 (UTC)

@Victuallers: Xiuling has an awesome life story, so cool that the article had so many hits. Let's motivate the world to write these stories. I'm at an annual national recruiters' conference, hearing about new trends in recruiting applicants. Hope I can parlay some of this into recruiting editors to work on the content gender gap. Some of the take aways from this conference, repeated over and over again: "break the rules", "stop playing it safe", "do stuff which would get you fired". Let's remember that as we plan a future with a narrowed content gender gap. --Rosiestep (talk) 22:21, 28 April 2015 (UTC)

A really hearty congratulations to both of you. Hopefully you'll inspire many people to edit. Thanks Rosie for adding some buildings to Spain to do, started the first Castillo de Alba (Quirós). Great thing about articles like is that they could potentially turn up red links on notable missing medieval feudal lords and bishops and local kings and stuff. ♦ Dr. Blofeld 21:48, 28 April 2015 (UTC)

Thanks Dr. B; ... plus feudal lordettes, bishopettes, and queens! --Rosiestep (talk) 22:21, 28 April 2015 (UTC)
Oh of course, naturally ;-) Seriously though, imagine how many potential articles on queen consorts of medieval Spanish/French/Italian kings etc!! ♦ Dr. Blofeld 07:46, 29 April 2015 (UTC)

DYK for Boite (river)[edit]

 — Crisco 1492 (talk) 16:02, 28 April 2015 (UTC)

DYK for Ha Gorge[edit]

 — Crisco 1492 (talk) 00:02, 29 April 2015 (UTC)

Merge discussion, and Wikibreak[edit]

Two separate issues here, no cause and effect. First, there is a merge discussion going on here [3] This is the third AfD and/or merge debate and frankly it's exhausting and annoying. I personally believe the article is notable on it's own merits but clearly others believe otherwise, so lets let compromise rule the day. Even if this fails notability, which I think is highly questionable but as I said it will come up again and again, it should be merged into the correct article. I have always maintained that Trayvon Martin could have been me 35 years ago is about a significant speech given by Barack Obama about race relations in the United States, not just about, or even primarily regarding, the Zimmerman trial - although I acknowledge the trials conclusion was the catalyst. That being said, the article should not be merged with the trial page, but if consensus agrees should be merged with Speeches of Barack Obama to convey the full historical context. If you have a few minutes I hope you will join the discussion, whether you agree or not.

On a separate issue, I have gone on a Wikibreak to deal with 2 jobs this summer, and still try to have a social life lol. It's not related to the above discussion. I regularly patrol the pages I've created, and noticed the new merge discussion as I was going into break. I'm not "disgruntled". :) While I grow weary of the endless notability discussions I see, I actually find consensus to be vital. I'm sure I'll be around here and there this summer, and will be back more fully this fall or winter. In the meantime, I hope you stay well. Juneau Mike (talk) 07:53, 29 April 2015 (UTC)

Juneau Mike I'll keep an eye on the discussion, and any others if you like while you take a wikibreak, which everyone deserves once in a while. Enjoy your time off... work, fun, or just rest and relaxation. I'll be really happy, though, when you come back. --Rosiestep (talk) 23:58, 29 April 2015 (UTC)

DYK for A Hill Above the Clouds[edit]

Harrias talk 12:04, 29 April 2015 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Memorial to the Children Victims of the War, Lidice[edit]

Symbol question.svg Hello! Your submission of Memorial to the Children Victims of the War, Lidice at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and some issues with it may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! Prioryman (talk) 21:10, 29 April 2015 (UTC)

DYK for Palais Lantivy[edit]

Allen3 talk 00:13, 30 April 2015 (UTC)

My New Article[edit]

The further reading section is showing red marks about Check date values . Please check. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gujarati_Kadhi --C E (talk) 17:22, 30 April 2015 (UTC)

@CosmicEmperor: Thanks for reaching out to me. I've fixed the problem and here's what I did. If you have any other questions just let me know as I'm glad to help. --Rosiestep (talk) 03:08, 1 May 2015 (UTC)

The Signpost: 29 April 2015[edit]

Agriculture in the Republic of the Congo[edit]

I was looking at Agriculture in the Republic of the Congo with a view to reviewing it for DYK. Instead I ended up expanding it, and I also created an article on the Niari Valley which was redlinked in your article. Since your proposed hook for DYK is "... that the Niari Valley is a notable agricultural area in the Republic of the Congo?", would you object to me amending the nomination to a two article hook to include my new article? Cwmhiraeth (talk) 05:03, 1 May 2015 (UTC)

Hi, Cwm, Good job! Don't mind at all if you make those changes. And credit yourself on the Agriculture article. I had thought about creating the Niari Valley article myself, but got working on other things and totally forgot about it. Glad you created it. Cheers, --Rosiestep (talk) 05:10, 1 May 2015 (UTC)
Thanks. I will do as you suggest. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 05:13, 1 May 2015 (UTC)

DYK for Agustina Andrade[edit]

Harrias talk 17:07, 1 May 2015 (UTC)

Mercedes Sandoval de Hempel[edit]

You find translate and add a bit more for Mercedes Sandoval de Hempel and nom.♦ Dr. Blofeld 20:47, 1 May 2015 (UTC)

Dr. Blofeld, done. --Rosiestep (talk) 16:26, 2 May 2015 (UTC)

DYK[edit]

Symbol question.svg Hello! Your submission of Monte Alén National Park at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and some issues with it may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! North America1000 04:34, 2 May 2015 (UTC)

DYK for Piscadera Bay[edit]

Harrias talk 18:38, 2 May 2015 (UTC)

DYK for Caribbean Marine Biological Institute[edit]

Harrias talk 18:38, 2 May 2015 (UTC)

DYK for Cortina d'Ampezzo[edit]

Harrias talk 06:53, 3 May 2015 (UTC)

DYK for Mount Faloria[edit]

Harrias talk 06:55, 3 May 2015 (UTC)

Wikidata weekly summary #156[edit]

WikiCup 2015 May newsletter[edit]

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