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Welcome!

Hello, Sean mc sean, and welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for your contributions. I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Here are some pages that you might find helpful:

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Hi. Welcome to Wikipedia, and thank you for your contibutions.

However, there is a problem with your edit in Grand Theft Auto (series), which involves the inclusion of a fictional city, dubbed "Capital City (Based on Washington D.C.)." Due to the fact that I have never heard of the city after playing the relevant games and reading the instruction manuals, I have undone your edits, citing a lack of evidence to back up Capital City's existence. You may like to consider providing a source or evidence on this claim; otherwise, this edit will be reverted again if it is included in the Grand Theft Auto (series) article.

Thanks for taking the time to read this message. ╫ 25 ◀RingADing▶ 15:26, 26 October 2006 (UTC) ╫[reply]

That's the thing that I'm concerned about. Stuff written here that is sourced from word of mouth is not necessarily facts. Under this sort of circumstances, it would usually help to play GTA1 and GTA2, and research material of the games to actually verify Capital City's existence, so that actual evidence of the city can be provided in the article. I am, however, prepared to stand corrected if evidence of Capital City can be is found in these sources. Thanks for the response, though. ╫ 25 ◀RingADing▶ 18:37, 26 October 2006 (UTC) ╫[reply]

Referring to your recent and repeated edits to omit certain contents in List of gangs in Grand Theft Auto series (the original name of the Cubans and entire Avenging Angel section) without explanation, I am forced to revert these change again due to the lack of edit summaries. At least some communication is needed for others to understand what you have in mind and why you removed these edits.

Anyway, perhaps we can discuss this issue in the article's talk page for a resolution before any omissions can be made; think of it as an open attempt By the way, if you haven't notice, there is a history page of this article where both edit changes and edit justifications are provided; hence the need for edit summaries.

I must emphasise that it's not personal, though; think of it as an attempt to help you and reach a compromise. Thanks. ╫ 25 ◀RingADing▶ 14:35, 30 October 2006 (UTC) ╫[reply]

Re: Not Me![edit]

Thanks for clearing things up on who made which edit. However, the argument regarding the merit of non-gang-like gangs is a bit shallow. The VCPR gang mentioned for example, has absolutely nothing in common with gangs (neither the host, guest, nor the station itself is affiliated with anything about gangs, behavior), hence the lack of need (or logic) to mention them. The Golfers, Security Guards, Army and Avenging Angels all have relations to gang activities or gang characteristics.

By the way, I'm not responsible for the removal of the Vice City Triads/Counterfeit Syndicate, but it's pretty much appropriate to mention something about the Vice City-based Triads featured in the Print Works mission, since they were featured as a "gang." Feel free to put it back in and I'll see what can be done about it.

Thanks for your consideration, though. It's really appreciated. :) ╫ 25 ◀RingADing▶ 10:15, 31 October 2006 (UTC) ╫[reply]

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Re: November 28/29, 2006[edit]

Re: Excuse me[edit]

Feel free to take a look at dictionary.com's definition of "ghetto" and be the judge. It's enough to justify not undoing your addition on the matter. ╫ 25 ◀RingADing▶ 18:15, 29 November 2006 (UTC) ╫[reply]

Re: EDIT!!![edit]

The page, as mentioned in a notice at the top of the article, has been fully protected due to disputes and edit wars, preventing any editing by anyone. Links have been provided on the article's notice to let you in on the nature and reasoning of the article protection. Thanks. ╫ 25 ◀RingADing▶ 18:15, 29 November 2006 (UTC) ╫[reply]

Re: NYC/New Jursey[edit]

Only the Shoreside Vale district is both geographically and visually similar to the north eastern fringes of the New Jersey state (directly across the river from New York City); Staunton is clearly based on Manhattan, and Portland is based on eastern New York City boroughs (Queens, Brooklyn, Staten Island). Although Shoreside Vale basically mimics suburban traits of New Jersey, it doesn't necessarily represent the entire New Jersey state as a whole. Shoreside Vale is also suggested to be located on the mainland, just like New Jersey; Staunton and Portland are islands, just like much of New York City. ╫ 25 ◀RingADing▶ 10:58, 4 December 2006 (UTC) ╫[reply]

Well, we won't really know how Rockstar modelled the city, but what is suggested is that Liberty City is suppose to represent the urban core of New York City and its surrounding areas. New Jersey should be included in the mix. ╫ 25 ◀RingADing▶ 19:38, 4 December 2006 (UTC) ╫[reply]

The Flash version of the official GTA III website contains two icons in the Wichita Heights district of Shoreside Vale which refer to MSX FM and Game Radio. Secondly, both Los Santos and San Fierro are based on major Californian city (Los Angeles and San Francisco); Las Venturas is based on Las Vegas (a Nevadan city), in addition to the Sherman Dam, which is based on the Hoover Dam, partially located in Nevada. Hence the inclusion of California and Nevada as the states San Andreas is based upon.

On the subject of asking me a few GTA-specific questions, perhaps you would like to use a GTA forum or the likes instead for future inquiries on the games. I'm not free or prepared to answer questions that are not relevant to editing in Wikipedia. Thanks. ╫ 25 ◀RingADing▶ 10:54, 5 December 2006 (UTC) ╫[reply]

I'm not the position of knowing the racial background of the Cholos gang, as I haven't play GTA:VCS. As stated in my last message, your questions are better reserved for game forums or forums related to the GTA series (i.e. GTAForums) that have members who are better prepared to discuss your views. Also, Wikipedia is generally not intended to be a fan forum. Thanks. ╫ 25 ◀RingADing▶ 09:56, 6 December 2006 (UTC) ╫[reply]

The last post that you had provided doesn't indicate that it was concerning who is editing who (it would be appreciated if sufficient details are included when discussing in this talk page), and as such, left me to assume that the post is referring to casual discussions. Neither have I expected one to direct a message to the wrong user and leave the message uncorrected for almost a day.

On that note, have you looked into the history page of the article again? The page should locate specific editors who made specific edits accurately. You could also try additionally to bring up discussions on article changes in the article's talk page as well (although the likeliness of replies varies from topic to topic).

Btw, I've used GTAForums with few conflicts with other forum goers; it's expected to be a proper place to discuss GTA topics as long as one has proper etiquette. ╫ 25 ◀RingADing▶ 16:28, 7 December 2006 (UTC) ╫[reply]

Lloyd Floyd[edit]

Please do not remove Article for Deletion notices. If you disagree with the article being deleted, please make your case; here is the link in case you missed it: Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Lloyd_Floyd. Removing this is considered vandalism; please do not do it. Akihabara 13:42, 10 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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Vandalism[edit]

Please stop. If you continue to vandalize pages, as you did to [[:User:Akihabara]], you will be blocked from editing Wikipedia. Akihabara 07:51, 11 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Edit summaries[edit]

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Filling in the edit summary field greatly helps your fellow contributors in understanding what you changed, so please always fill in the edit summary field, especially for big edits or when you are making subtle but important changes, like changing dates or numbers. Thank you. ╫ 25 ◀RingADing▶ 14:00, 11 December 2006 (UTC) ╫[reply]

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Vandalism[edit]

Do it again and you will be blocked from editing Wikipedia Tauntobr 19:54, 12 December 2006 (UTC)

Each page has a history page (like this history page, for example), which contains every single revision made since the article's creation, created each time the article has been edited. In order to locate removed content, you have to backtrack to earlier revisions, and click the link that reads as the time and day that each new revision is created. After opening any previous revision, you can view the raw content of the article by selecting the "edit this page" tab (but you can't change previous reversions), and selecting any wanted contents to be amended at the current revision. In the case of the Triads section, you may need to search a few revisions before you can find it, because certain revisions may or may not contain the section (because it was removed or not at the time). Help:Page history should provide detailed guides on how to use these pages. hope that helps. ╫ 25 ◀RingADing▶ 12:43, 18 December 2006 (UTC) ╫[reply]

Need help?[edit]

Do you have a question or need help? Why not try Wikipedia:Questions as well? Users there are more prepared and happy to assist you in any problems or inquiries. Although asking users directly for help is not wrong, certain users may not be in the position answering questions. Thanks, and happy editing! ╫ 25 ◀RingADing▶ 13:50, 7 January 2007 (UTC) ╫[reply]

Location criteria for inclusion in Grand Theft Auto (series)[edit]

District names or minor locales are not necessary in the locations section or this article. Locations only referenced in speech once or twice are usually not notable enough to be included, while Bullworth and Carcer City, which are not featured in any GTA games, nevertheless are featured as the settings of non-GTA games set in GTA canon. In the case of the districts or neighborhoods, it's only repeating what would be provided in articles on respectable cities (such as the inclusion of "New Guernsey", which is only a neighborhood in Liberty City). This article is only intended to provide an overview of locales, and is to be keep at a minimal if possible (leaving out said info). I've included a similar message at Talk:Grand Theft Auto (series)#Location's criteria for inclusion, in which we can discuss this more openly. Thanks. ╫ 25 ◀RingADing▶ 13:50, 7 January 2007 (UTC) ╫[reply]

Carl "CJ" Johnson 1995/1992 Vandalism[edit]

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Bullworth and the GTA Universe[edit]

It hasn't been proven (yet) that it's in the GTA universe; it could very well be possible that Rockstar may not want to associate such a game like Bully with the violent GTA universe. Unless you can find a source proving otherwise, please stop adding to the article. ♣ Klptyzm Chat wit me § Contributions ♣ 05:58, 25 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The thing is that people can't assume that Claude is Claude Speed without any proof, just like you can't assume that Bullworth is in the GTA universe without proof. You can't add information based on what you think. You can only post information on what you can prove. Like I said, if you don't have proof, please stop adding it to the article. ♣ Klptyzm Chat wit me § Contributions ♣ 20:38, 25 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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Vandalism[edit]

Please stop. If you continue to vandalise Wikipedia, as you did to The Happy Elf, you will be blocked. Bib 03:19, 27 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Chill Out[edit]

First off, calm down. Second, I always watch the GTA pages, so I found that "Bullworth" info totally on accident. Third, Napoleon Dynamite (the character) doesn't deserve its own article; he isn't noteworthy enough to have his own, regardless of how popular the movie is. The article about the movie details his character plenty. Also, not every main character in every popular movie deserves their own article. ♣ Klptyzm Chat wit me § Contributions ♣ 03:17, 27 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Like I previously stated, not every single main character in a popular film deserves an article; plus, the movie page details him plenty. ♣ Klptyzm Chat wit me § Contributions ♣ 03:34, 27 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Regardless of how you improve it, it would either have unnecessary, and irrelevant, info, or it would completely mimic what was in the movie article that describes him. It doesn't need to stay. ♣ Klptyzm Chat wit me § Contributions ♣ 03:41, 27 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
How are you going to threaten to ban me? I haven't broken any rules to merit a ban, let alone merit a warning. ♣ Klptyzm Chat wit me § Contributions ♣ 03:53, 27 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

CIVILITY[edit]

Hi, you are on the way to getting banned if you continue the way you are on talk pages WP:Civility, WP:Etiquette and no signing messages also WP:PA will not endear you to any reviewing admin SatuSuro 05:12, 27 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I'm afraid I must agree -- please calm down, or you may be blocked from editing without any further warning. If you have a legitimate dispute with another editor, please make calm use of the dispute resolution process. Luna Santin 05:29, 27 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

You have been blocked[edit]

Please contribute and resolve your disputes via the dispute resolution process, and avoid attacking other users. Take a chance to calm down, so that you can be reasonable and keep a cool head. Thanks. Luna Santin 06:22, 27 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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The "Guernseys"[edit]

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Major edit of Seattle[edit]

Hi Sean mc sean; When making major edits, I wonder if you would be kind enough to leave the minor edit box unchecked and to leave an edit summary of your edit in the box below the main edit box?[1] Best wishes, Walter Siegmund (talk) 01:01, 29 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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You are in danger of violating the three-revert rule. Please cease further reverts or you may be blocked from editing. ♣ Klptyzm Chat wit me § Contributions ♣ 04:19, 29 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]


Hmm, is that so? Well, are you aware of the fact that you've actually broken the 3RR a long time ago? ♣ Klptyzm Chat wit me § Contributions ♣ 04:22, 29 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
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This Personal Attack[edit]

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User notice: temporary 3RR block[edit]

Regarding reversions"CJ"_Johnson made on January 29 2007 to Carl "CJ" Johnson[edit]

You have been temporarily blocked for violation of the three-revert rule. Please feel free to return after the block expires, but also please make an effort to discuss your changes further in the future.
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I'm a horse, am I?[edit]

Please see Wikipedia's no personal attacks policy. Comment on content, not on contributors. Personal attacks damage the community and deter users. Note that continued personal attacks will lead to blocks for disruption. Please stay cool and keep this in mind while editing. Thank you. ♣ Klptyzm Chat wit' me § Contributions ♣ 05:06, 31 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

3RR[edit]

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Dude...[edit]

If that's true, then why is "he" doing edits that only YOU have ever done? You're the main one who always changes the dates like that. Well, technically speaking, you aren't Sean800...anymore, since it got blocked. ♣ Klptyzm Chat wit' me § Contributions ♣ 00:09, 1 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Please see Wikipedia's no personal attacks policy. Comment on content, not on contributors. Personal attacks damage the community and deter users. Note that continued personal attacks will lead to blocks for disruption. Please stay cool and keep this in mind while editing. Thank you. ♣ Klptyzm Chat wit' me § Contributions ♣ 04:46, 1 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Please do not delete content from articles on Wikipedia, as you did to User talk:Klptyzm. If you continue to do so, it may be considered vandalism. If you would like to experiment, please use the sandbox. Thank you. ╫ 25 ◀RingADing▶ 12:03, 1 February 2007 (UTC) ╫[reply]

Invitation to participate in discussions[edit]

You have been invited to engage in discussions in Talk:Tommy Vercetti#Recent Edit War and Talk:Grand Theft Auto (series)#The "Guerseys" to resolve several issues in article changes and contents. Please remember to keep a cool head and be civil. Thanks. ╫ 25 ◀RingADing▶ 12:03, 1 February 2007 (UTC) ╫[reply]

Attacks[edit]

Please do not attack other editors. If you continue, you will be blocked from editing Wikipedia. ♣ Klptyzm Chat wit' me § Contributions ♣ 05:43, 2 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Deleting an edit from the Ballas section? You're an idiot! Craxy 20:17, 2 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

You have been blocked from editing for a period of 1 week in accordance with Wikipedia's blocking policy for personal attacks. Please stop. You're welcome to make useful contributions after the block expires. If you believe this block is unjustified you may contest this block by replying here on your talk page by adding the text {{unblock|your reason here}}.

Shyam (T/C) 16:21, 2 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

-I don't think it should be 1 fucking week! - Sean mc Sean 02:06, 3 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

It's 1 week because you have multiple violations and blocks involved with WP:NPA. --Wildnox(talk) 19:37, 4 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Look punk, don't be deleted that part of the article on the Cholos. In VCS, Phil Cassidy said they were Mexican gang bangers. Craxy 22:00, 9 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Blanket revert of Carl "CJ" Johnson[edit]

Please refrain from blanket reverts, especially when there is a consensus against the changes you wish to make, such as this reversion. Please also be mindful of the WP:Manual of Style, particularly the part about writing about fictional events using the present tense. Croctotheface 11:56, 12 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Quit vandlizing the page you idiot! Craxy 23:16, 12 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Please see Wikipedia's no personal attacks policy. Comment on content, not on contributors. Personal attacks damage the community and deter users. Note that continued personal attacks will lead to blocks for disruption. Please stay cool and keep this in mind while editing. Thank you. ♣ Klptyzm Chat wit' me § Contributions ♣ 03:19, 13 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Liberty City (Grand Theft Auto), 3RR and namecalling in edit summaries[edit]

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Blocked[edit]

2 weeks. Blnguyen (bananabucket) 00:29, 14 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

-(Personal attack removed)

Dude, sending hostile messages to me isn't going to help your chances of being unblocked. ♣ Klptyzm Chat wit' me § Contributions ♣ 05:57, 14 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
For a series of blatant personal attacks since Blnguyen blocked you, you have now lost your ability to edit this talk page until your block expires.[2][3] Daniel.Bryant 06:16, 14 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
I've reset your block, and extended it by one week, because of your block evasion and personal attacks using your IP. The block will expire three weeks from now, as will the protection. Note that any further sockpuppeting ventures to continue your blatant personal attacks will result in this account being indefinitely blocked. Daniel.Bryant 06:38, 14 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    • Like, dude, haven't you heard of tor? Cloveoil 06:14, 9 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    • Dude, you really need anger management classes. Have you even had the foresight to establish to yourself exactly what tor is and why I recommended it to you? No. You have simply assumed that I am 'out to get you' without due regard for establishing the facts. In short, you'll get no more help out of me. Good day.
    • Evidently you don't have the foggiest idea of that to which I refer, as is telling to any casual passing reader. You do also realise that I am actually quite happy in my own life, and calling me abusive names doesn't really bother me. I do feel sort of sorry for you, because your edits make you seem like quite an unbalanced persona. Perhaps if you try to improve your own life, you will not feel the need to validate your own existence by swearing at strangers over the internet. Additionally, i herd u liek mudkips Cloveoil 15:26, 11 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

<Personal attack removed>.

Hahahahahahahaha, you got jokes!!!! Makes me laugh Craxy 19:40, 12 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

This needs to stop now, before one of you gets blocked and before the other gets blocked even longer than a month and has his "talk on his own talk page" privileges removed. ♣ Klptyzm Chat wit' me § Contributions ♣ 19:51, 12 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Please do not attack other editors. If you continue, you will be blocked from editing Wikipedia. Ptpgta 00:09, 16 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

  • LULZ. Sean mc Sean, please take heed. "This needs to stop now, before one of you gets blocked and before the other gets blocked even longer than a month". Ptpgta, I believe that you may find that the user in question is already blocked. Cloveoil 01:56, 16 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Recent edits[edit]

Please see Wikipedia's no personal attacks policy. Comment on content, not on contributors. Personal attacks damage the community and deter users. Note that continued personal attacks will lead to blocks for disruption. Please stay cool and keep this in mind while editing. Thank you. ♣ Klptyzm Chat wit' me § Contributions ♣ 01:35, 9 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

i wanna hewlp you from this Klptyzm guy he seems to not play right amigo and thats not good hes a threat to wikipedias good users--Liberty City's Miguel 14:35, 22 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

  • Vercetti WAS born in 1951 <Personal attack removed>. Sean mc Sean 09:37, 9 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]
This user is a sockpuppet and needs to be ignored. ♣ Klptyzm Chat wit' me § Contributions ♣ 03:21, 24 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Wow you like to fight with people huh?

Please stop with the personal attacks, man. That's not helping anything, especially you. ♣ Klptyzm Chat wit' me § Contributions ♣ 17:42, 9 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Ok sorry I need to get used to wikipedia... Ok Sean Mc Sean please do not vandlize the list of GTA gangs page like you did when you removed the PIGs article please stop or you may be blocked!... Again

Before you try to remove the P.I.G.s section from the List of Gangs page, you should probably go read the lengthy discussion about the subject. ♣ Klptyzm Chat wit' me § Contributions ♣ 17:25, 10 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Good job Klyptzm perfect idea!

Why do you want to delete stuff? LAcfm 01:49, 12 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Your edit to Michael Richards[edit]

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Don't vandalize[edit]

Don't vandalize. Bus stop 16:16, 11 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Please see Wikipedia's no personal attacks policy. Comment on content, not on contributors. Personal attacks damage the community and deter users. Note that continued personal attacks will lead to blocks for disruption. Please stay cool and keep this in mind while editing. Thank you. You're the last person who needs to tell someone how to act. ♣ Klptyzm Chat wit' me § Contributions ♣ 23:16, 11 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

General note: Personal attack on User talk:Klptyzm. using TW[edit]

April 2007[edit]

Welcome to Wikipedia. We invite everyone to contribute constructively to our encyclopedia. However, we remind you not to attack other editors, as you did here: User talk:Klptyzm. Please comment on the contributions and not the contributors. Take a look at the welcome page to learn more about contributing to this encyclopedia. Thank you. Madman bum and angel 23:49, 11 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]


a friend of mine[edit]

got blocked because of you you know that right--Butterrum 14:05, 12 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Victor Vance article[edit]

That section is nothing but original research and fancruft, and it should be removed. ♣ Klptyzm Chat wit' me § Contributions ♣ 21:37, 12 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Wait, I'd go check out the 3RR before doin' that. ♣ Klptyzm Chat wit' me § Contributions ♣ 21:47, 12 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Yeah, 4 reverts, man? Yeah, I'd stop if I were you; you're just one revert away from bein' blocked. ♣ Klptyzm Chat wit' me § Contributions ♣ 21:50, 12 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

A tag has been placed on Dan Houser, requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done because the article seems to be about a person, group of people, band, club, company, or web content, but it does not indicate how or why the subject is notable: that is, why an article about that subject should be included in Wikipedia. Under the criteria for speedy deletion, articles that do not assert notability may be deleted at any time. Please see the guidelines for what is generally accepted as notable, and if you can indicate why the subject of this article is notable, you may contest the tagging. To do this, add {{hangon}} on the top of the page (below the existing db tag) and leave a note on the article's talk page explaining your position. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag yourself, but don't hesitate to add information to the article that would confirm its subject's notability under the guidelines.

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Please stop. If you continue to vandalize Wikipedia, as you did to User:Johnnyfog, you will be blocked from editing. —DerHexer (Talk) 21:51, 12 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

This is your final warning. The next time you vandalise an article, as you did to User:Johnnyfog, you will be blocked. ≈ The Haunted Angel 21:58, 12 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

<Personal attack removed> — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sean mc sean (talkcontribs)

I have only just got involved with what's going on, but from what I can tell, you really need to re-read the rules of Wikipedia. Personal attacks will not be tolerated, and you have been reported to WP:AIV. You do not fight fire with fire here. ≈ The Haunted Angel 22:05, 12 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Blocked
You have been blocked for vandalism for one month. To contest this block, add the text {{unblock|your reason here}} on this page, replacing your reason here with an explanation of why you believe this block to be unjustified. You can also email the blocking administrator or any administrator from this list. Please be sure to include your username (if you have one) and IP address in your email.

If you continue to vandalize Wikipedia after the block has expired, you will be blocked for longer and longer periods of time.

Please do not erase warnings on this page. Doing so may be considered disruptive. Anthony.bradbury 22:10, 12 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]
This user's unblock request has been reviewed by an administrator, who declined the request. Other administrators may also review this block, but should not override the decision without good reason (see the blocking policy).

Sean mc sean (block logactive blocksglobal blockscontribsdeleted contribsfilter logcreation logchange block settingsunblockcheckuser (log))


Request reason:

I only vandalised Johnnyfog's page because he went and vandalised my page. I i get Blocked he should too.

Decline reason:

Unblock templates are to be used to request an unblock if you believe you were blocked unjustifiably. Please stop abusing it. — Yamla 22:26, 12 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]


If you want to make any further unblock requests, please read the guide to appealing blocks first, then use the {{unblock}} template again. If you make too many unconvincing or disruptive unblock requests, you may be prevented from editing this page until your block has expired. Do not remove this unblock review while you are blocked.

Atleast block my front page so that <personal attack removed> Johnnyfog won't try to vandalise it again. Hos. Sean mc Sean 12:53, 13 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I removed the personal attack you made. Don't do it. ≈ The Haunted Angel 16:39, 14 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

QUOTE FROM HAUNTED ANGEL thankfully Sean mc sean is blocked for now. Screw you Haunted Angel. Sean mc Sean 16:47, 14 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Due to your horrible way of addressing others, I'd say it is thankful that you are blocked. ≈ The Haunted Angel 16:57, 14 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]
I couldn't help but noticed your comments, and accusations, that you directed at me: first off, I'm not an admin, and if I was, I can guarantee you that you would be blocked for much longer than a month, because I know you aren't going to change one bit. Second, I didn't revert every edit you made, just 91% of them, and all of those needed to be reverted. ♣ Klptyzm Chat wit' me § Contributions ♣ 05:12, 15 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

You're the one who needs to change. You're a douchebag, you just HAD to stick you're nose into my business, reverting my edits in articles you dob't work on, such as Jazz, deleating my Napoleon Dynamite article. Face it dude, you're a douchebag. Sean mc Sean 06:10, 17 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

And LAcfm is a sockpuppet. Sean mc Sean 04:38, 18 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

FYI, I'm no sock puppet. You and my new enemy think that, and maybe a few others, but I'm not! LAcfm 04:39, 18 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war. Note that the three-revert rule prohibits making more than three reversions in a content dispute within a 24 hour period. Additionally, users who perform a large number of reversions in content disputes may be blocked for edit warring, even if they do not technically violate the three-revert rule. If you continue, you may be blocked from editing. Please do not repeatedly revert edits, but use the talk page to work towards wording and content which gains a consensus among editors. Thank you. ♣ Klptyzm Chat wit' me § Contributions ♣ 04:43, 18 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

This user's unblock request has been reviewed by an administrator, who declined the request. Other administrators may also review this block, but should not override the decision without good reason (see the blocking policy).

Sean mc sean (block logactive blocksglobal blockscontribsdeleted contribsfilter logcreation logchange block settingsunblockcheckuser (log))


Request reason:

If i am unblocked then i pormise i will be a better editor

Decline reason:

This is your fifth block since January. Your actions do not provide me any reason to believe you are serious when you say you would be a better editor if unblocked. I am really surprised you were only blocked for one month this time, the more usual course of action would be a six month block. Because of this, I suggest you accept the leniency that has been offered and take this time to consider whether you wish to contribute productively once the block expires next month. — Yamla 00:57, 19 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]


If you want to make any further unblock requests, please read the guide to appealing blocks first, then use the {{unblock}} template again. If you make too many unconvincing or disruptive unblock requests, you may be prevented from editing this page until your block has expired. Do not remove this unblock review while you are blocked.

This is especially true given your blatant personal attacks made just a day ago. If there's even one more example of this, you will be blocked indefinitely. Please consider this your final warning. --Yamla 00:58, 19 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Oh but i've changed. Sean mc Sean 01:00, 19 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

FINE THEN FUCK THIS! *Pulls out Beretta and points it at Klptyzm's head*, UNBANN ME OR I SHOOT KLPTYZM IN THE HEAD! Sean mc Sean 03:45, 19 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

[Johnnyfog is a nice guy who has removed his personal attack]

unregistered number? OK I'M GETTING PISSED NOW *Hits Johnnyfog over the head with the Beretta, And points it back at Klptyzm's head*, GIVE ME WHAT I WANT OR KLPTYZM HEAD GETS BLOWN OFF. Sean mc Sean 05:08, 19 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

LOL. Man you are too much. You funny man, I like you. LAcfm 05:20, 19 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

EVERYONE, STOP ALL THESE PERSONAL ATTACKS. All you are doing is just picking on a blocked user and all of you need to go back to editing instead of bullshittin' around one user. This is freakin' juvenile and needs to stop. ♣ Klptyzm Chat wit' me § Contributions ♣ 00:07, 20 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I'll help you Sean lol! (15 YEARS LUNA) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 208.125.114.250 (talkcontribs)

No thanks, i don't need nor do i want you're help. Thank you, and stay off my talk page. Sean mc Sean 19:53, 26 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Recent Edits[edit]

I'd refrain from antagonizing edits; something tells me you're REAAAAL close to being indef-blocked. ♣ Klptyzm Chat wit' me § Contributions ♣ 05:05, 14 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Sean Mc Sean I am here to help you! What you can do to stay out of trouble is to simply ignore him!--Manny Ribera 14:18, 15 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Personal Attacks.[edit]

Such as this [4] are not what WP is about. Please learn to collaborate with other users.Gaff ταλκ 08:56, 14 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Ha, this very situation is probably what would keep me from being an admin, and if I wanted to be an admin, I probably would have done so a long time ago. Just chill out and you be fine. ♣ Klptyzm Chat wit' me § Contributions ♣ 15:03, 14 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Remeber ignore the guy! I know he can be annoying!--Manny Ribera 14:20, 15 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

who are you talking to? Sean mc Sean 15:51, 15 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

He's trying to talk to you. Either way, I have a feeling both of you are going to be blocked again. ♣ Klptyzm Chat wit' me § Contributions ♣ 17:02, 15 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I'm talking to you Sean! Just ignore him like i'm doing now! He then will keep talking and threating and he will be blocked!--Manny Ribera 15:55, 16 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

That's like the 18th time you've said that and it hasn't happened yet. ♣ Klptyzm Chat wit' me § Contributions ♣ 16:31, 16 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

What did you say somthing Sean?!--Manny Ribera 15:12, 17 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

That dosen't mean ignore me!!!--Manny Ribera 14:52, 21 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I think it's best that people [[WP:NOFEEDING

|stop posting here unless the subject is relevant]], it's not helping matters. ≈ The Haunted Angel 15:48, 21 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

EVERYONE STOP FIGHTING, Manny and Klptyzm, you two are acting like Kids. Sean mc Sean 21:26, 21 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Don't vandalize my user page and then try to instigate confrontations. I do agree with Angle; I'm gonna shut up, but that doesn't mean I won't shell out warnings. ♣ Klptyzm Chat wit' me § Contributions ♣ 22:28, 21 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I'm a little kidd for telling you to ignore Klyptzm??? I'm helping you out... Anyway I have a important thing to tell you from Craxy! Do you have a Myspace? If you do tell me so I shall tell him...Put the link here ok? You should be fine don't worry about Klyptzm!--Manny Ribera 15:57, 23 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

http://www.myspace.com/bill_lancaster what for...

Craxy wanted to talk to you? I also want to add you! I'm Manny Ribera and I don't think Craxy is Latino hes black!--Manny Ribera 14:29, 25 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

RE:[edit]

Well, I knew that about Craxy and LAcfm anyways, even though I do appreciate that. I'm not too sure I could use those MySpace messages as evidence. I'll look into it. ♣ Klptyzm Chat wit' me § Contributions ♣ 02:53, 25 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Hmm, go ahead and give me the password and e mail. I'll see what I can do. ♣ Klptyzm Chat wit' me § Contributions ♣ 02:56, 25 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks. ♣ Klptyzm Chat wit' me § Contributions ♣ 03:24, 25 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
I'm logged in as the account. I just read the conversations. ♣ Klptyzm Chat wit' me § Contributions ♣ 03:26, 25 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Craxy wanted to talk to you? I also want to add you! I'm Manny Ribera and I don't think Craxy is Latino hes black!--Manny Ribera 14:29, 25 May 2007 (UTC)

By the way don't vandlize my page! I believe hes black i'm no Craxy! I'm Manny Ribera a political prisoner from Puerto Rico!--Manny Ribera 14:41, 25 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I can't add you but add me my url is: http://www.myspace.com/67559330.--Manny Ribera 16:26, 25 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Umm... The URL does not work... Sean mc Sean 20:44, 25 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Ok then whats your last name? I can't add you without it!--Manny Ribera 02:38, 26 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Ok.--Manny Ribera 03:03, 26 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

See told you I was not Craxy Jaun!--Manny Ribera 15:03, 29 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

You don't talk much on Myspace! Cuño meng come on!!!--Manny Ribera 14:07, 1 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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Re: Dude[edit]

I haven't said it is speculation. I said what Michael Pachter said is speculation. John Hayestalk 02:46, 5 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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