User talk:Tony1

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What they say about the Signpost


At the Signpost, reader feedback is taken seriously as a way of improving the quality of our news service to the English Wikipedia and the broader Wikimedia movement. We value readers' continuing support and welcome critical comments. Here is a list of the remarks over the past 18 months that we've found most useful (diffs available on request):



IMPORTANT NOTICE—WHERE TO UPLOAD YOUR FILES: This user strongly encourages editors to upload image, video, and sound files onto the English Wikipedia, and not onto Commons, which has multiple structural and management issues, and a tangle of serious inter-jurisdictional problems. Your files are safer at the English Wikipedia.
The Signpost
2 July 2014


Real-life workload: 6.5

  • 1 = no work pressure
  • 5 = middling
  • > 5 = please don't expect much
  • 10 = frenzied






  • Watchlisters: user page and talk page watchlisted by 371 editors (April 2014)
  • Estimated yearly hits as of May 2012 on my userspace (by extrapolating from the new-look traffic stats page, adjusted upwards for the six days of counter outage, 25–31 December 2011):
    • Total (yearly hits, est.): 51,608
    • User talk page: 15,127
    • User page: 9,103
    • User contribs: 6,334 (now that's spooky)
    • Redundancy exercises: removing fluff from your writing: 4,760
    • How to improve your writing: 3,231
    • Advanced editing exercises: 2,670 (renovating now: damn, it needs cleaning up)
    • Beginners' guide to the manual of style: 2,344 (desperately needs updating)
    • The six other tutorial pages: each less than 2,000.


What they say about Tony1


Being a reformer on the English Wikipedia and further afield in the Wikimedia movement brings me into contact with many people who have vested interests in resisting change. I am truly grateful for their advice, which has been important to my ongoing program of self-improvement. Here is a list of some of the most helpful comments from March 2013 to March 2014—all rigorously fact-checked to exclude mistruths and exaggerations (diffs available on request):



Another styletip ...


Including


Introduce a complete list with comprising, consisting of, or composed of rather than including (which would indicate that the list is incomplete):

Incorrect: The English alphabet includes 26 letters (are there more than 26?)

Correct: The English alphabet comprises 26 letters

Correct: The English alphabet is composed of 26 letters

Woeful: The English alphabet is comprised of 26 letters

Correct: The English alphabet consists of 26 letters


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Signpost[edit]

Sorry to see you resigned, someone mentioned it on Wikipediocracy. Its just another case of the arbs acting like they own the world around here. 49.50.221.160 (talk) 02:50, 1 July 2014 (UTC)

Dear Tony, please don't quite the Signpost :-(. While as with any publication there have been moments I've shaken my head at the Signpost, I have also appreciated the incredible labor of love of elucidating complex issues in our movement. I really hope you reconsider your decision—I for one would greatly miss your contributions.-Eloquence* 07:00, 1 July 2014 (UTC)

Language to avoid?[edit]

Do you think "Daughter traditions" as I've used as a subsection title in ukiyo-e is the kind of language to avoid? Curly Turkey ⚞¡gobble!⚟ 02:15, 3 July 2014 (UTC)

Overlinking[edit]

Thanks for standing up against overlinking and telling others about it.[1][2] But I was thinking that why you haven't used AWB for getting rid from overlinking? It is actually fast for these purposes. OccultZone (TalkContributionsLog) 03:51, 6 July 2014 (UTC)

You're welcome, Occult. I can't run AWB because I have a Mac. But more importantly, human oversight is required unless focusing on a very narrow target (as was done cautiously by User:Harej with dates and years in late 2009 after the community decision about unlinking them). There are grey areas for common terms. You might consider talking with User:Ohconfucius about using his scripts; again, care and sensitivity to editorial complaint is important. Cheers and thanks. Tony (talk) 04:00, 6 July 2014 (UTC)
To me, there's not much technically that separates script editing and using AWB, except as Tony pointed out that AWB is not OS-agnostic. I primarily use scripts, which I then adapt into AWB modules. One might have disagreements as to the advantages of respective interfaces for diff viewing, but whether using AWB or a script that does the same unlinking, it does not obviate due care in evaluating the suitability, pertinence etc of the links in place, and whether their removal is indeed appropriate. I fall foul of this occasionally, though a lot less than before because I try to build in more contextual element to my scripts; occasionally, there are simply differences of opinion that lead to retention of a given link even though the script removes them. Regards, -- Ohc ¡digame! 04:09, 6 July 2014 (UTC)
I use the module of Ohconfucius for removing the overlinking and it is working perfectly. Now after a few thousands of edits and having no issues with such editing, it becomes pretty evident that they are understanding the policy about linking. :-) OccultZone (TalkContributionsLog) 04:16, 6 July 2014 (UTC)

The Signpost: 02 July 2014[edit]

Battle of Öland FAC[edit]

Since you provided helpful comments and/or reviewing in related quality assessments, I'm dropping a notice that battle of Öland is now an FAC. Please feel free to drop by with more input!

sincerely,
Peter Isotalo 05:44, 7 July 2014 (UTC)