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Thanks. If you prefer to communicate by email, feel free: '''MutantPop@aol.com'''. —Tim. ///// [[User:Carrite|Carrite]] ([[User talk:Carrite|talk]]) 22:48, 7 December 2011 (UTC) |
Thanks. If you prefer to communicate by email, feel free: '''MutantPop@aol.com'''. —Tim. ///// [[User:Carrite|Carrite]] ([[User talk:Carrite|talk]]) 22:48, 7 December 2011 (UTC) |
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:I am not a troll, Carrite! Stop bantering that around...you obviously don't know what it means. And it's clear that people don't really care about your accusations of trolling. It's becoming ABF. Per [http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/What_is_a_troll%3F this], trolling is an attempt to intentionally disrupt Wikipedia. I am neither disruptive nor intending to be. |
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:You've been talking about rescuing some of the articles. I know "the clock is ticking", but it was ticking for years and nothing was done about it. Seeing as Marquez and Viramontes didn't have much (really, anything) in the way of Google Books or Scholar, I'd doubt they can be saved. Perhaps some of the others can. And please stop saying, "these nominations are in bad faith", as there are numerous ways to buy yourself more time. Keep in mind that you don't have to completely fix the articles...all you have to do is find one or two sources to prove notability for the deletion to be closed as keep. You can add the rest later. Consider this: if I hadn't nominated these articles, you wouldn't be fixing them, and they'd be in the appalling state they were before this started '''''[[User talk:Purplebackpack89#top|<font color="#660066">Purpleback</font>]][[User:Purplebackpack89|<font color="#000000">pack</font>]][[User:Purplebackpack89/C|<font color="gold">89</font>]]<font color="#FF9900">≈≈≈≈</font>''''' 23:15, 7 December 2011 (UTC) |
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==What is a troll?== |
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You and Carrite seem to think I'm a troll. [http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/What_is_a_troll%3F this] explains what a troll is. I did not intentionally disrupt...I'm not even sure I disrupted at all. Therefore I am not a troll '''''[[User talk:Purplebackpack89#top|<font color="#660066">Purpleback</font>]][[User:Purplebackpack89|<font color="#000000">pack</font>]][[User:Purplebackpack89/C|<font color="gold">89</font>]]<font color="#FF9900">≈≈≈≈</font>''''' 23:19, 7 December 2011 (UTC) |
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:: Quoting your own link: ''"Trolling is a violation of the implicit rules of Internet social spaces and is often done to inflame or invite conflict. It necessarily involves a value judgment made by one user about the value of another's contribution."'' [[User:Carrite|Carrite]] ([[User talk:Carrite|talk]]) 23:27, 7 December 2011 (UTC) |
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:::Can you prove I intentionally did it? If you can, start an AFD about it. If you can't, it's not trolling stop wasting my time with your ABF. '''''[[User talk:Purplebackpack89#top|<font color="#660066">Purpleback</font>]][[User:Purplebackpack89|<font color="#000000">pack</font>]][[User:Purplebackpack89/C|<font color="gold">89</font>]]<font color="#FF9900">≈≈≈≈</font>''''' 23:40, 7 December 2011 (UTC) |
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==Your queries== |
==Your queries== |
Revision as of 07:55, 8 December 2011
Hola
Sup, y'all?Luciferwildcat (talk) 00:23, 21 November 2011 (UTC)
November 2011
Please do not attack other editors, as you did at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/IncidentArchive669. Comment on content, not on contributors. Personal attacks damage the community and deter users. Please stay cool and keep this in mind while editing. Additionally, please avoid tampering with archived discussions.Novangelis (talk) 22:02, 21 November 2011 (UTC)
You need to substantiate your claims or withdraw them as it is not acceptable to cast unfounded aspirations with regard to other editors. Spartaz Humbug! 11:13, 7 December 2011 (UTC)
- Gimmie a sec and I'll diff away.LuciferWildCat (talk) 12:21, 7 December 2011 (UTC)
- OK I have reviewed all the AFDs and worked out the reason. Your case is widely over the top and unsupported by any evidence. Seriously, you need to withdraw the allegations and apologise now. Spartaz Humbug! 13:43, 7 December 2011 (UTC)
- So he didn't nominate 18 articles all for the same cut and paste reason, and he hasn't whined to people on their talk pages about it?LuciferWildCat (talk) 13:55, 7 December 2011 (UTC)
- So he wasn't being abusive having been told to individually nominate the articles and he hasn't wikistalked. Serious allegations you have made there. You seem impervious to the feedback of the other commentators in the thread who have all told you this. You cannot go round making serious claims without evidence and the feedback is that no-one sees the problems you claim in the evidence provided. Generally, if you are the only person to see something then you are the one in the wrong. I don't particularly want to sanction you, but insisting on repeating a serious allegation after being told repeatedly that its not a valid complaint is a severe case of Not listening, flogging a dead horse and casting unfounded assertions, which, as you already have been told, is unacceptable. Spartaz Humbug! 14:07, 7 December 2011 (UTC)
- I understand and validate your concerns that I overeacted, however, not everyone has had a chance to opine yet. I think carrie for one might have something or another to say. I believe from my own observations of wikipedia with cases of any editor nominating many articles that they were severely admonished and blocked as that this was described as abusive. That is what I am going by. I also personally believe that following the two users to their talk pages to push a point is unaccaptable intimidation and from my understanding falls under the suspiction of wikistalking. Do you understand where I am coming from on this?LuciferWildCat (talk) 14:15, 7 December 2011 (UTC)
- Nope. Its perfectly normal to extend a conversation onto a user's talk page if its a wider issue. That's what they are for. It most certainly isn't wikistalking. Have you actually read the page on harrassment and wikistalking. That requires a pattern of edits not one. Spartaz Humbug! 14:59, 7 December 2011 (UTC)
- I understand and validate your concerns that I overeacted, however, not everyone has had a chance to opine yet. I think carrie for one might have something or another to say. I believe from my own observations of wikipedia with cases of any editor nominating many articles that they were severely admonished and blocked as that this was described as abusive. That is what I am going by. I also personally believe that following the two users to their talk pages to push a point is unaccaptable intimidation and from my understanding falls under the suspiction of wikistalking. Do you understand where I am coming from on this?LuciferWildCat (talk) 14:15, 7 December 2011 (UTC)
- So he wasn't being abusive having been told to individually nominate the articles and he hasn't wikistalked. Serious allegations you have made there. You seem impervious to the feedback of the other commentators in the thread who have all told you this. You cannot go round making serious claims without evidence and the feedback is that no-one sees the problems you claim in the evidence provided. Generally, if you are the only person to see something then you are the one in the wrong. I don't particularly want to sanction you, but insisting on repeating a serious allegation after being told repeatedly that its not a valid complaint is a severe case of Not listening, flogging a dead horse and casting unfounded assertions, which, as you already have been told, is unacceptable. Spartaz Humbug! 14:07, 7 December 2011 (UTC)
- So he didn't nominate 18 articles all for the same cut and paste reason, and he hasn't whined to people on their talk pages about it?LuciferWildCat (talk) 13:55, 7 December 2011 (UTC)
- OK I have reviewed all the AFDs and worked out the reason. Your case is widely over the top and unsupported by any evidence. Seriously, you need to withdraw the allegations and apologise now. Spartaz Humbug! 13:43, 7 December 2011 (UTC)
- Gimmie a sec and I'll diff away.LuciferWildCat (talk) 12:21, 7 December 2011 (UTC)
Purpleback also commented on my Talk page to answer a query. They pointed out it is quite acceptable to batch nominate similar articles for deletion. To be honest I find it quite intimidating that someone would try and drag another Wikipedian down for following Wikipedia guidance and then taking time to communicate with other editors. Mass nominations are not abusive and I can't see any 'stalking' at all. Sionk (talk) 16:25, 7 December 2011 (UTC)
- It did not seem like friendly discussion to seemed to be causing a lack of enjoyment to wikipedia as stated as unacceptable in WP:STALK. I have seen editors blocked for mass nominations before and those are my reasons, the discussion is now over. Hopefully he will turn down the rhetoric now.LuciferWildCat (talk) 21:52, 7 December 2011 (UTC)
- Also, please refrain from canvassing on either this or the Harpreet Sandhu article, and please do not ever use the lump-of-coal template again. It's in bad faith and worse taste Purplebackpack89≈≈≈≈ 17:12, 7 December 2011 (UTC)
- I didn't canvass and I will continue to inform everyone when needed of important changes. It's not canvassing if you seek out impartial review from all points of view. It would be canvassing if I had only asked the deletes or comment onlies to review it while not giving the keeps a chance to change their mind and delete themselves. I will never use the lumo-o-coal template toward you again unless you go crazy, which I don't think you will. Feel free to give me a lump of coal back to get rid of any frustration. It's way better than say insulting me or holding a grudge and manages not to be offensive in any way while admonishing a bit nevertheless. Have a great day.LuciferWildCat (talk) 21:56, 7 December 2011 (UTC)
If you insist...
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Ho, ho, NO! Purplebackpack89≈≈≈≈ 22:09, 7 December 2011 (UTC) |
See, no hard feelings. Have a nice day.LuciferWildCat (talk) 22:11, 7 December 2011 (UTC)
Your recent edits
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Hi, friend
I see that you're a newcomer to Wikipedia. Welcome to you. Try not to get too wrapped up in the politics behind the scenes, there are some people here for the drama rather than to build the encyclopedia and you don't want to wind up inadvertently playing their game. I do appreciate the sentiments, mind you, but I've learned that it's best not to feed the trolls by taking down their stuff from my talk page as fast as possible and refusing to engage with them.
That said, if there are any troubles you are having with the technical aspects of Wikipedia — how to footnote, how to upload graphics, copyright rules, what have you — please do not hesitate to ask. I see an explosion of activity in your edit history and that's good; people tend to make a few tentative edits and then to really dive in. I hope this describes you! Go get 'em, tiger.
Thanks. If you prefer to communicate by email, feel free: MutantPop@aol.com. —Tim. ///// Carrite (talk) 22:48, 7 December 2011 (UTC)
Your queries
I think the rescue flag(s) were put up correctly, I presume the software automatically places them on a list out there somewhere or other... As for the tables, those look pretty good, too. One thing you might want to play with is center justification, which involves using an initial justification parameter, whatever you want to call it, like this
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This has to be done for each cell, as far as I am aware.
As for copy-paste, I don't have trouble if I open up the edit panel of page A, copy the needed material, and then paste it into the edit panel of page B. This has to be done very carefully though and in limited fashion, because mass pasting both tends to create content forks and is regarded as a copyright violation (since the edit history behind entry A is lost). More than a line or two here and there is apt to be a problem.
Hope this helps. Carrite (talk) 23:24, 7 December 2011 (UTC)