Talk:Heinrich Rau

Clean up

Informative article but seems to be a machine translation from the original German. Could some kind passing soul with a better knowledge of German than I tidy it up? It's a bit garbled in places. Roger 16:52, 25 April 2007 (UTC)

I changed a few things that were common errors of online translators, but the article still requires quite a bit of work. User:Jwaghray 18:56, 11 June 2007

I improved the article a bit. Feel free, to continue. --Henrig (talk) 09:12, 9 January 2010 (UTC)

Meanwhile I've widely expanded and improved the article. I assume, for native English speakers it should be more easy to correct last mistakes and make the article also stylistically full acceptable now. I think the Quality-template from 2007 can be removed now. --Henrig (talk) 17:58, 31 March 2010 (UTC)

Erich Rau

I deleted a paragraph which claims that Erich Rau is Heinrich Rau's son. He is not even a relative. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tom-O-Mat (talk • contribs) 01:14, 29 July 2011 (UTC)

Werner Gertler, who in 1972–1973 was a close associate of Erich Rau in the by Erich Rau led National Organisation Committee for the festival, described him in his book -also readable in the linked file- as "the son of the antifascist 'Heinrich Rau'"! Henrig (talk) 07:40, 29 July 2011 (UTC)

Werner Gertler might have assumed that Erich Rau is the son of Heinrich Rau but this is definitly not right. The names of the sons of Heinrich Rau are Manfred, Heinrich and Thomas. Gertler has some more inconsitencies in his article with respect to the 'X. World Festival of Youth and Students' in 1973, e.g. Egon Krenz was not First Secretary of FDJ at this time. He was Chairman of the "Pionier Organisation". He became only in 1974 the First Secretay of FDJ. Moreover I see no relationship between Heinrich Rau and the renaming of the 'Walter Ulbricht Stadium' in 'Stadium of the World Youth'. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tom-O-Mat (talk • contribs) 20:43, 30 July 2011 (UTC)

Hello Tom,

not mentioning the then correct position of Egon Krenz at this time is an excusable slip. But erroneously emphasizing Erich Rau as the son of Heinrich Rau would be, in German, a 'Dicker Hund'. (Gertler considered this relationship even more important than the not so well-known first name of the chairman of the organisation committee for the festival, whom he called elsewhere simply 'comrade Rau'.) Gertler should have known it! Therefore I've removed the certain passages for now, but I'm not sure!

At the moment there stands a source against an user. But you give the impression to be an insider. Is this impression correct or not? Are you perhaps even an insider, who could provide some pictures of HR, perhaps from his younger days? This would be superb and in this case I would also have different questions, also per mail. Kind regards Henrig (talk) 13:06, 31 July 2011 (UTC)

Hmm, Tom-O-Mat doesn't makes the impression of a vandal and I can't imagine, that a man like Werner Gertler here nowingly wrote the untruth. Thus it seems not unlikely to me, that there had been a rumour in the committee, that ER was the son of the well-known HR which Gertler believed. (I also assume, I could find people who would know the relationship. But it would be a bit laborious and there is no haste.) Thus, with this only one reference, I would leave this passage out. Henrig (talk) 05:42, 5 August 2011 (UTC)