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Numbers on both sides

Why does a user who keeps editing the numbers for this battle. It’s common knowledge that the Sikhs were outnumbered and also that the whole Bengal army was present to crush the Sikhs due to the decisive defeat and loss of prestige at Chillianwala. Your source is incorrect. It is also a biased and fake source, go read a book about the wars. CapChecker123 (talk) 19:13, 18 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@CapChecker123: Please explain why the cited source is "biased and fake" (you can discuss it at WP:RSN if needed). Also, if you are adding new numbers, you need to cite a reliable source for those numbers. utcursch | talk 14:37, 19 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Well if you look at most sources and read websites where the information is given. It clearly states that the whole bengal army was present at the battle. As you’re oblivious to this it was around 56,000 men, in addition to this, the Sikhs numbered 10,000 in the previous battle to Gujrat (chillianwala). Raja Sher Singh united his army with that of his father. Which added a further 10,000 troops. Which makes 20,000 Sikhs vs 56,000 British forces Plus you haven’t added the afghan mercenaries in this battle which was at 1500 for the Sikhs. So use your head please. Not sure where you got the figure of 50,000 to 60,000 Sikhs. Absolutely ridiculous. CapChecker123 (talk) 20:35, 19 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Utcursch I’ve cited my refernce. Go read the book my Kushwant Singh. a history of the Sikhs. Published by Oxford university press. Thank you. CapChecker123 (talk) 20:38, 19 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

By* Khushwant Singh* CapChecker123 (talk) 20:38, 19 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

When citing a source, even one published by as reputable a publisher as the OUP, please provide full details for it, especially ISBN, and a page number, otherwise the source cannot be validated. "Singh 2004" is insufficient information. Decrying reputable, printed sources such as Carl Cavanagh Hodge as "biased and fake" is not good argument for any article, and verges on incivility and POV pushing. I'd like to see some of these sources and websites where the "common knowledge" that the entire Bengal Army was present is given. This is a claim as fatuous as any inflated reckoning of Sikh numbers. I propose to leave the Khushwant Singh cite for Sikh numbers to stand, pending full citstion details, but restore the Hodge cite for British numbers. If edit warring continues, combined with incivility, I will seek protection for the page and if need be report the matter to Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Edit warring. HLGallon (talk) 23:38, 19 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

2nd request I would like to see page numbers, volume numbers, quotes, etc, for this source supplied by Capchecker. --Kansas Bear (talk) 23:48, 19 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Shutup KansasBear, you’re already a delusional person I ain’t dealing with you. CapChecker123 (talk) 02:42, 20 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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	::'''2nd request''' I would like to see page numbers, volume numbers, quotes, etc, for this source supplied by Capchecker. --[[User:Kansas Bear\|Kansas Bear]] ([[User talk:Kansas Bear\|talk]]) 23:48, 19 January 2021 (UTC)		::'''2nd request''' I would like to see page numbers, volume numbers, quotes, etc, for this source supplied by Capchecker. --[[User:Kansas Bear\|Kansas Bear]] ([[User talk:Kansas Bear\|talk]]) 23:48, 19 January 2021 (UTC)

			Shutup KansasBear, you’re already a delusional person I ain’t dealing with you. [[User:CapChecker123\|CapChecker123]] ([[User talk:CapChecker123\|talk]]) 02:42, 20 January 2021 (UTC)