Talk:Elisha Cuthbert

I think a better picture should be added. She looks awful on that one

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I have deleted this:

hobbies and favorites:

Mexican food Painting Drawing Snowboarding “King of the Hill” Strawberry kiwi Gatorade Hip-hop/rock Hanging out with friends and “Ferris Bueller’s Day Off” Information provided by http://www.ropeofsilicon.com/profile.php?id=458

--Biohazard 03:59, 1 Apr 2005 (UTC)

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Is she really a natural blonde? You can see brown hair where her roots start.

She's dyed her hair red and brown. As of now, the sites with her vital statistics I've researched have listed her as a natural blonde. She was a blonde when I first saw her in Popular Mechanics for Kids and Are You Afraid of the Dark? if I recall correctly. --Antrophica 23:10, 21 May 2006 (UTC)

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While in the process of adding a new high-res picture, I had some page layout problems with the film poster. I think the placement should be changed so maybe someone can try different combinations.

Good Article

I promoted this article's nomination (which for some reason wasn't listed here on the talk page), and I couldn't be happier to do it (Cuthbert is #2 on my personal list of most beautiful celebrities). A couple of style notes, however. The "Other roles" section should be rolled up into the later career (it doesn't warrant it's own header), and the personal life section should hopefully be expanded? Maybe she's been politically active? I know she's given at least one interview in FHM/Maxim/one of the 2895030 other men's magazines she's appeared in, certainly you can find more info for that area of the article. Staxringold 14:26, 17 May 2006 (UTC)

I don't think she's much of a politically active person, for better or worse. I don't think I've ever even come across anything controversial from her lips. She's quite bubbly in interviews, but careful so far. --Antrophica 15:31, 17 May 2006 (UTC)

Nothing controversial? You didn't see the scene she made in Montréal because she didn't want to meet the press for unknown reasons... My boss went to the same school than Cuthbert, she seems to be a real b**** in her personal life (these were her words and it was 6 or 7 years ago... but still) —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 24.37.186.73 (talk) 00:00, 15 December 2006 (UTC).

That sounds absolutely possible, I just feel like the more content outside of what's expected/assumed (film history for a film actress, eg) can make an article more interesting. If she's just bubbly without much notable private life to mention, oh well. Staxringold 15:34, 17 May 2006 (UTC)

Maybe when she starts dating men worthier of note, we'll have something to write about. --Antrophica 16:18, 17 May 2006 (UTC)

Doesn't this article need a picture of Kim Bauer? (Though not the bondage one.) —wwoods 20:18, 17 May 2006 (UTC)

Awww, no bondage? Heh, I didn't dig around for a Kim Bauer pic because she doesn't look all that different as Kim, but I'll add the lead image from Kim Bauer to the 24 section and amend the fair use rationale (she does have longer, straighter hair with an outfit and ID badges she would never normally wear). Staxringold 20:21, 17 May 2006 (UTC)

On closer review, the sourcing on that image really stinks. Rather than risk some craziness with that image, I've uploaded a normal screenshot from Season 1 which helps out the Kim article and fits better here. Staxringold 20:23, 17 May 2006 (UTC)

Love Actually

I dont think Cuthbert stars in Love Actually....this article has to be validated by some one Ref [1]

Actually, IMDB says she did. In addition, I'm not sure what your referencing, because even if Wikipedia was a WP:RS for itself, that article states she was in it as well. --Kevin Walter 01:58, 15 August 2006 (UTC)

Sorry About that...as i saw the starcast of Love Actually in wikipedia ...i didnt see her name thats why but now as i hve seen the movie....she definitely is in the movie

No problem, thanks for posting on the talk page instead of just removing the info from the article. --Kevin Walter 04:05, 15 August 2006 (UTC)

Citations

I just updated some of the citation links.

• One dead link updated.
• One link to a general fansite page, which provided none of the info it was supposed to, removed.
• One citation (about her previous work and who she worked with) was unnecessary and therefore removed.
• The Spiderman citation needs to be resourced. A fansite page isn't a good way to citate something, anyone can make up that stuff, it's no different to uncited material on Wikipedia. So if an interview can be found, it needs to be added ASAP. I can't find any interview or reliable source with that info, so I haven't updated the citation. I'll remove the Spiderman info within a few days if a reliable source can't be found. —B33R^{(talk • contribs)} 22:03, 2 November 2006 (UTC)

Image for infobox

It seems too good to be true, but supposedly this image has the correct licensing for wikipedia use. - Peregrine Fisher 19:50, 22 January 2007 (UTC)

Trivia deletions

I've removed some information from the article because it is non-encyclopedic, non-notable trivia:
"Cuthbert's role as host of Popular Mechanics sometimes required her to act as a foreign correspondent, and she was required to fly around the world despite her aversion to plane travel. "
"Cuthbert had given herself a deadline of six months to make something of her trip and was about to return home when she was offered the part during the last week."
"Her break up with Trace Ayala had been the inspiration to the hit song What goes around comes around by Justin Timberlake."[2]
Please let me know if you disgree.--Vbd (talk) 08:29, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

Filmography: Believe

This movie was done in 1998, not 1999 nor 2000 as it's incorrectly listed on IMDB. I just saw it on TV March 25th, 2007. She's quite obviously only 16 in the film, not 17 or 18. The copyright date in the credits is 1998.

No mention of Sean Avery in personal section?

It's no secret that the two are dating/have dated???

http://www.popdirt.com/article55777.html —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 206.248.186.244 (talk) 14:29, 30 March 2007 (UTC).

WP isn't a gossip column; it is an encyclopedia. So you need to ask, "Is it noteworthy or relevant that they are dating (or have dated)?" If so, then you need to provide a reliable and credible source to support any statement about it. I confess that I have not yet checked out "popdirt.com" but I doubt it would be considered reliable (read this).--Vbd (talk) 15:32, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

Main Image for infobox

Think we can finally get one up with the correct licensing? --Jtres21

Woo hoo! Wikipedian 12:53, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

Cat Tale

Cat Tale has been cancelled. It's page was deleted due to that fact. I'm not an expert, but it should possibly be removed from the Recent career and Filmography. A couple of references to the film's cancellation: [3] [4]--Adam aka. Cho03 03:13, 30 April 2007 (UTC)

Prononciation

Is the name pronounced Like the Bible Elisha or is it pronouced (E-LEE-SHA)Jesusinmysock 19:37, 16 May 2007 (UTC)

E-LEE-SHA. Wikipedian 13:02, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

Do you have a source for this? — Timotab ^{Timothy (not Tim dagnabbit!)} 15:51, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

How does the "Bible Elisha" pronoun as¿ Wikipedian 09:40, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

El-eye-sha. Known from how Hebrew is pronounced. — Timotab ^{Timothy (not Tim dagnabbit!)} 11:10, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

Reply to your question, no, I don't have a source for this but ya can hear how they call her in interviews, etc. Wikipedian 11:19, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

Image size

why is this being changed? the default 220px is big enough, and if people want to see it larger, they can click through to the image page. Unfortunately, as Wiikipedian is not leaving edit summaries, I have no idea what his thought process is.— Timotab ^{Timothy (not Tim dagnabbit!)} 05:50, 26 August 2007 (UTC)

I would suggest leaving images at, or less than, the default thumbnail size, per the manual of style, which reminds editors: "Bear in mind that some users need to configure their systems to display large text. Forced large thumbnails can leave little width for text, making reading difficult.", Changing images to display larger, can create unwanted effects for those who use larger text size, or lower screen resolution. If they wish to see the image larger, they can simply click on it to go to the full size image. Additionally, per Wikipedia's picture tutorial, Because different people work to different screen resolutions, your preferred size of thumbnails can be set in special:preferences under "files". If someone wants to have images larger, they can set their own personal preferences to do so, instead of forcing the image to be sized larger than standard, which has the result of respecting ohers, and providing larger images for the user who wishes to see them that way. ^Ariel♥Gold 03:53, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

{{Flagicon}}

Do ya think we need a {{Flagicon}} on the infobox¿ Wikipedian 03:22, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

I honestly don't see what's wrong with it. I know some people say it's like "decorating" the page but many articles have it. I think it fits well under where it says her birthday and age. Jtres21

There is precedence for having the flag of the country/state a notable person was born in (or is from), see Kirsten Dunst, Lyle Lovett, Cliff Robertson, Rosemary Harris, just to start. Removing the image does not improve the article; the small image does nothing harmful (and in fact, provides quick visual information regarding Elisha's place of birth). While there is no hard and fast policy about flags in infoboxes, they are often used for people, places, teams, companies, etc. Since Wikipedia is visual as well as text, I would think that this tiny little flag would be of no concern. I'm confused as to why you'd like to remove it? ^Ariel♥Gold 03:48, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

A precedence does not necessarily mean it is a good thing. There are several good arguments as to why the flagicon should not be used in this situation at Wikipedia:Use of flags in articles and its talk page (note that this page is currently an essay and is not yet policy). JYi 04:08, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

Note that I neither have a preference for it, nor against it, and I understand the proposed guideline you mentioned. I was just pointing out that it is currently done quite often, and that in general, does not harm the article by its addition. Those editors who work on this article should work out the issue here, though, rather than simply entering into continued revert wars. But thanks for bringing another side to the issue! ^Ariel♥Gold 04:38, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

Agreed with Ariel. Jtres21 06:50, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

The reason I remove the {{Flagicon}} is if ya add {{Flagicon|Canada}} (), someone might add {{Flagicon|Calgary}} () and {{Flagicon|Alberta}} (), which makes the infobox looks like

Calgary, Alberta, Canada

Wikipedian 12:14, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

But then again, they might not. There's a reasonably good argument for having a nationality flag there, because in most cases, nationality flags are well known and easily recognised worldwide. That argument drops off dramatically when you go to state/province and municipality flags. — Timotab ^{Timothy (not Tim dagnabbit!)} 13:04, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

I doubt anyone would add all of those flags. I'm just going to put it back for now. Seems like only one person has a problem with it being up. It's presence isn't hurting the article, and when it's removed it's not really improving the article at all. Just let it be. Jtres21 22:27, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

Flag icons are pretty useless when you have the city, state, and country spelt out for you. It serves a purely decorative purpose. It's not like a flag is going to make the words "Canada" more understandable if it's spelt out. Flags can serve a useful purpose such as album release dates (e.g. Shock Value). But in this case, if the country is spelt out, then the flag is totally redundant. I like the comment in WP:FLAG about emphasis. For example, with the flag icon, Paul McCartney is emphatically English/British. Without the flag, he's a singer-songwriter and guitarist who just happens to be English. The music points are more important than his "Englishness". Also, you'll be surprised how many people use state flags. Spellcast 02:32, 10 September 2007 (UTC)

Finally someone's with me. Wikipedian 12:14, 10 September 2007 (UTC)

References

I still had this on my watchlist, so before I removed it, I cleaned up the refs to put them into citation template format, for standardization. I have hidden one invalid URL reference, if someone wishes to find another to replace it, and I've added a {{fact}} tag to engagement statement, as that sort of thing should be cited per WP:BLP. Also, IMDB is not considered a reliable source so I removed the references that used IMDB. The IMDB link for her is in external links, so no information was lost. ^Ariel♥Gold 21:37, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

I just got a reference for the engagement statement, check it out. I have a lot of edits but I'm still fairly new at this. It's been well known for a while that Elisha and Ayala split and ended the engagement, but half the sites that you find it on would be against the rules here for references. So it's tough to find a decent site, but I tried. Jtres21 22:21, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

Request for Comment: flag icons in biography infoboxes

Template:RFCbio There is an ongoing dispute as to whether or not adding a country flag icon is useful at-a-glance information, or if it is merely decoration18:04, 11 September 2007 (UTC)