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Arterial Venous Switch

I left messages in responce to the "inappropriate" deletion of my edit by other editors who try to explain to me something, they lack enough knowledge on. The concept of "Retrograde Cerebral Perfusion" is a very valid medical treatment to brain ischemia and is currently used in many fields including "cardiac surgery/CPB". There is a "plethora" of medical articles in peer review journals "that I can help you find if you can't do it on your own", by Dr. John Frazee, Dr. Judy Huang and others on the subject. Some authots call it "Posterior Cerebral Perfusion or Venous Perfusion". So, the use of "venous network" to treat the brain in cases of ischemia is well known and "Well Documented". I have no problems explaining it to you or to others to help Wikipedia grow and become more detailed on the subject.

You have an obligation as an editor and a physician to admit to the fact that you were not aware of the approach and take steps to educate the public, the same way you took steps to delete my edit.

I have no problem with debating an issue in medicine or science in general. Debate leads to progress. Howevere, before an editor assumes the position of the "teacher" and start spreading "incorrect information" they can ask experts for help or get some self education to be on the level of discussion, leave alone editing. So, I advise you and other editors who "concluded that the concept of "Venous or retrograde perfusion" is a "conflict of interest" or "commercial", to read more on the subject, before editing me. I have spent enough time and effort on "Stroke" and I know what I am talking about, You should do the same, regardless of being a physician or not and regardless of being "Board Certified" or not. I hope you can do the same and READ MORE! Soomeh (talk) 11:16, 13 August 2008 (UTC)

I did not invite you to lecture me on my responsibilities. You must seriously tone down your rhetoric if you want anyone to carry on reading.

The onus is on you to provide evidence that your technique is being developed in phase III trials and that there are secondary sources confirming that. You will know what you're talking about, but that's not the same thing. Experimental theories are not good enough. Just the fact that it might work in cardiac surgery is not good enough either. Patients to know want treatments are known to work, not what is being tested in phase I trials and may be abandoned if proof of principle studies fail. Would you expect to read about highly experimental techniques in a standard encyclopedia?

In other words, please supply the kind of sources I was referring to. I have no desire of this turning personal, and I hope you will accept (or at least entertain) the points I have made above.

On an unrelated note, I am very curious how you intend to overcome the problem of venous perfusion pressure being significantly lower than the arterial pressure. JFW | T@lk 18:20, 13 August 2008 (UTC)

Alzheimer's Disease

For almost a year I have been working in theAlzheimer's Disease article and it is almost ready for FAC. We were thinking if somebody who had not worked directly in the article could take a look at it, say what he thinks about it and do some copy edit. It would be perfect if you could review the article. Best regards. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Garrondo (talk • contribs)

I'm presently stuck with a fairly slow internet connection. I will see what I can do in the next few days. JFW | T@lk 18:25, 13 August 2008 (UTC)

Foster Kennedy syndrome

Hi JFW, I was wondering if you could take a look at Foster Kennedy syndrome for me. It was described by Robert Foster Kennedy so i'm curious as to whether it should be called Foster-Kennedy syndrome (which suggests there were multiple physicians involved, but is more in line with the style here at Wikipedia), keep it's present name or be called Kennedy's syndrome. —Cyclonenim^T@lk? 20:02, 13 August 2008 (UTC)

No dash needed. It is in the same league as the Austin Flint murmur. Of course, if the man had been called Foster-Kennedy the eponym would include the dash too. JFW | T@lk 20:22, 13 August 2008 (UTC)

Ah I see. Thanks! —Cyclonenim^T@lk? 20:31, 13 August 2008 (UTC)

Another example would be Pierre Marie-Bamberger syndrome, after Pierre Marie and Eugen von Bamberger. --Steven Fruitsmaak (Reply) 20:55, 13 August 2008 (UTC)

Achalasia

Thanks for your thoughtful comments. I was away for several weeks; I'm sorry it took me so long to get back to you.

The manual of style says "Do not use lists if a passage reads easily using plain paragraphs." I think the list of symptoms reads much more easily as a bulleted list. I couldn't find anything in the manual of style that is specific to medical articles or lists of symptoms.

I haven't really figured out how to do all the various types of references on Wikipedia. Also, I wasn't always sure exactly which fact or facts each reference was referring to. I tried to preserve the references but may have gotten some of that wrong. I apologize, and please feel free to rearrange the references if necessary so they're associated with the relevant facts.

From the "biopsy" subsection under "diagnosis," I removed the sentence "In Chagas disease, a secondary cause of achalasia, the ganglion cells are destroyed by Trypanosoma cruzi, the causative parasite" because this sentence is not about biopsy or diagnosis. Chagas disease is mentioned earlier in the article, with a link to the Chagas disease article.

From the "surgery" section, I removed the sentence "In a Dor (anterior) fundoplication, part of the stomach is laid over the esophagus and stitched in place so whenever the stomach contracts, it also closes off the esophagus instead of squeezing stomach acids into it" because many surgeons prefer the Toupet procedure instead of Dor, and in any case this doesn't seem to be the place to go into detail about how the different types of fundoplication are performed. (The Heller myotomy article also includes an explanation of the Dor and Toupet procedures, and I think that is a more appropriate place.)

People can click on the word "fundoplication" to find out what it means. In the first paragraph of the fundoplication article is the sentence, "Partial fundoplications known as a Dor fundoplication or Toupet fundoplication may accompany surgery for achalasia." (The links for Dor fundoplication and Toupet fundoplication are red. They should be internal links to the respective explanations further down in the fundoplication article, but I'm not sure how to do that. Also, there are no references about Dor and Toupet there.)

However, I think this explanation is useful: "Whenever the stomach contracts, it also closes off the esophagus instead of squeezing stomach acids into it." Because this describes all kinds of fundoplications, I have inserted it into the main fundoplication article. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nissen_fundoplication

Again, thank you! Sssuuuzzzaaannn (talk) 23:01, 13 August 2008 (UTC)

Hi

Hi. I noticed that you voted in the nomination for deletion of the article Inflammatory diseases of unknown etiology. As I don't know you or your motives for voting as you did, and not to insult you or your intelligence, I felt that a misunderstanding occurred during the vote, causing many editors to vote for deletion based on the merits of a strawman argument. Please revisit the AfD (at the embedded link above) to gain a clearer understanding of my issue with this vote and either uphold or revise your vote -- I am not writing to you to demand that you retract -- rather, I feel that some votes may have been swayed by what may no longer apply to the article, and because most of those who voted merely reiterated the nominator's premise, perhaps a review will produce a fairer outcome. Thank you. DRosenbach ^{(Talk | Contribs)} 20:14, 14 August 2008 (UTC)

There are numerous inflammatory diseases, and many of them are of unknown etiology, but there is no recognised scientific entity of "inflammatory diseases of unknown etiology". I find it very unhelpful to lumber them together, because there are radical differences between those diseases mediated by innate immunity (IBD, sarcoid) and those mediated by acquired immunity (most others). Let it die, please. It will never be worth the while. JFW | T@lk 20:33, 14 August 2008 (UTC)

DRosenbach - I have to agree here too - the group is so heterogeneous and arbitrary that to list them as such is misleading. There are so many genuine articles desparate for a cleanup it seems a shame to devote so much energy to this and I am very sorry to vote delete there. Cheers, Casliber (talk · contribs) 13:39, 15 August 2008 (UTC)

Blocking policy

From the blocking policy: "Administrators must not block users with whom they are engaged in a content dispute". That means that you are not allowed to block me. --Mihai cartoaje (talk) 08:20, 15 August 2008 (UTC)

BIG problem

Hello JFD

I was editing the page on Childhood obesity and someone attacked it. Not sure how to revert the changes.

Doc James (talk) 18:10, 15 August 2008 (UTC)

Managed to fix it. Not sure what happened. --Doc James (talk) 18:13, 15 August 2008 (UTC)

Thanks!

Thanks for the MCOTW notification. I'd stay busy (just like the other weeks). But, would try to make a few minor edits. The article is quite well-developed. But, it will definitely benefit from further elaboration of certain terms. I might try that. All the best for the MCOTW! Regards. —KetanPanchal^taLK 04:09, 16 August 2008 (UTC)

re: undo

It wasn't a complete reversal of your removal, I weakened the statement and changed the resources, but I had first used the undo button. Will discuss the rest on the talk page. --Steven Fruitsmaak (Reply) 22:43, 17 August 2008 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Natal hypnotherapy

The author has provided reliable sources on which this article could be based, please review the AfD discussion and consider whether or not your vote remains the same. --Steven Fruitsmaak (Reply) 10:35, 18 August 2008 (UTC)

Re: syncope in readers

Hi,

images would be useful for the "signs and symptoms" section, and perhaps a relevant MRI scan, but I don't have time to look for this images myself for the moment. I find this image and others frequently (e.g. image of a CT scanner on an article about a condition possibly diagnosed by CT), but tend to remove them.

--Steven Fruitsmaak (Reply) 18:56, 18 August 2008 (UTC)

RE: Hypopituitarism

Not a problem, glad I could help. I couldn't find much wrong with the article at all really, you've covered the content really well. I'll have a look at pathophysiology soon and make any comments, if I find them, here :) —Cyclonenim^T@lk? 21:02, 18 August 2008 (UTC)

Auguste D image

There are doubts on whether the image on Auguste D in the Alzheimer article was really created by Alois alzheimer. I have found the origin of such image: it is from the birth house of Alois (See: http://www.marktbreit.de/kultur_bildung/alzheimer_pic.htm). It would be a good idea to ask if the original author was Alois. I am spanish, but I thought that as you are german you might be willing to send an email to the tourist office of Markbreit (email: touristinfo @ marktbreit . de) and ask them if they know if the author was Alois Alzheimer or if the picture is Public Domain. Best regards. --Garrondo (talk) 12:18, 19 August 2008 (UTC)

Sorry, my German is simply terrible. "Dutch" is actually the adjective for "from the Netherlands". I'm sure Nephron (talk · contribs) can help, though. JFW | T@lk 18:41, 19 August 2008 (UTC)

Uppss: I was never very good with geography. Thanks anyway. --Garrondo (talk) 09:52, 20 August 2008 (UTC)

Usernames

Hey, I made a request at WP:UAA regarding Qqqqqqp (talk · contribs) which seems to have been removed. I'm just curious, what are the limits with policy regarding such usernames? One of the criteria for unsuitable usernames is if it makes it difficult for other users to identify that user correctly. Does this not qualify as such a username? —Cyclonenim^T@lk? 19:35, 19 August 2008 (UTC)

Hmm. Rspeer (talk · contribs) seems to have been unimpressed to by the request. I agree it's a silly username, but if that user had been making useful contributions I wouldn't have made a point of it. Let's see how long Mr 6qp lasts before he gets blocked. JFW | T@lk 19:43, 19 August 2008 (UTC)

Indeed, I suspect it won't be long if he continues editing. But hey, don't judge a book by it's cover. —Cyclonenim^T@lk? 19:53, 19 August 2008 (UTC)

ROFLMAO

Wikipedia:Requests for comment/Jfdwolff. More useless wiki-drama. I hope someone blocks them. OrangeMarlin ^{Talk• Contributions} 09:28, 20 August 2008 (UTC)

I don't see a reason to block. But neither do I think an RfC is appropriate. I can't see as anyone could certify it, either, as no one has tried to resolve the dispute except for the one editor, and there was no abuse of admin tools. --Elonka 17:13, 20 August 2008 (UTC)

Well, I beg to differ.OrangeMarlin ^{Talk• Contributions} 17:37, 20 August 2008 (UTC)

I've provided an outside statement, it's clearly a load of nonsense. I'm suprised the user who requested the RFC hasn't been blocked for disobeying any other warnings. —[[::User:Cyclonenim|Cyclonenim]] ([[::User talk:Cyclonenim|talk]] · [[::Special:Contributions/Cyclonenim|contribs]]) 17:50, 20 August 2008 (UTC)

uh. Since it hasn't been certified, and probably won't be, it's best to ignore it until/unless it is. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 18:14, 20 August 2008 (UTC)

SandyGeorgia is correct, just ignore the RfC and it'll be auto-deleted in 48 hours. But I'm still confused about something: The user who requested the RfC, Mihai cartoaje (talk · contribs), is an extremely infrequent editor. He's been participating for years, but only has about 1000 edits. And on the article in question, Medicine, over the course of his entire history he's only made about five total edits to that article, to insert a well-sourced paragraph. There might be disagreement about whether or not the information is too detailed for that article or should be merged elsewhere, but I see absolutely nothing that would justify a block. I'm not understanding why people are on such a hair-trigger about this, that the cry is going up to block him for something so minor. What am I missing? --Elonka 18:38, 20 August 2008 (UTC)

That user has continually replaced information that was removed WITH good stated reasons, not only on the Medicine article, but also on Psychiatry. Both times the user was warned by JFW. Here is the original set of warnings, followed by this one later which only regards edits to Medicine. It became clear that this user is not a team player when it comes to editing articles, perhaps nothing to be blocked over yet, but still immature. My comment about blocking was interpreted wrongly, I'm merely suprised the the user hasn't yet been blocked from ignoring more warnings. —[[::User:Cyclonenim|Cyclonenim]] ([[::User talk:Cyclonenim|talk]] · [[::Special:Contributions/Cyclonenim|contribs]]) 19:08, 20 August 2008 (UTC)

I am not too worried - there are enough sensible people around that we have the numbers consensus will prevail. Cheers, Casliber (talk · contribs) 23:04, 20 August 2008 (UTC)

Well, if the RfC is delisted as uncertified, it won't be for lack of canvassing... MastCell ^Talk 23:14, 20 August 2008 (UTC)

Now I'm rolling on the floor, too! SandyGeorgia (Talk) 23:16, 20 August 2008 (UTC)