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Because of the disagreement, I've placed a request for comment up. You are welcome to discuss it here: [[Wikipedia:Requests_for_comment/User_names#sales002k.40suttonlea.org]] (yes I did copy that straight out of a URL).--[[Special:Contributions/90.217.236.85|90.217.236.85]] ([[User talk:90.217.236.85|talk]]) 11:55, 25 January 2013 (UTC)
Because of the disagreement, I've placed a request for comment up. You are welcome to discuss it here: [[Wikipedia:Requests_for_comment/User_names#sales002k.40suttonlea.org]] (yes I did copy that straight out of a URL).--[[Special:Contributions/90.217.236.85|90.217.236.85]] ([[User talk:90.217.236.85|talk]]) 11:55, 25 January 2013 (UTC)
: Yes, please do not [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3A90.217.236.85&diff=534537703&oldid=534534379 give 100% wrong] advice to people. If you do not know policies, please do not respond to help requests. ([[User talk:Bwilkins|✉→]]'''[[User:Bwilkins|BWilkins]]'''[[Special:Contributions/Bwilkins|←✎]]) 12:11, 25 January 2013 (UTC)
: Yes, please do not [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3A90.217.236.85&diff=534537703&oldid=534534379 give 100% wrong] advice to people. If you do not know policies, please do not respond to help requests. ([[User talk:Bwilkins|✉→]]'''[[User:Bwilkins|BWilkins]]'''[[Special:Contributions/Bwilkins|←✎]]) 12:11, 25 January 2013 (UTC)
::You're right, I misread the policy. The [//en.wikipedia.org/?oldid=534809996 version] I read said:
<blockquote>
Email addresses and URLs (such as "Alice@example.com" and "Example.com"). Plain domain names (without .com, .co.kr, etc.) are sometimes acceptable, such as when the purpose is simply to identify the user as a person, but they are inappropriate if they promote a commercial Web page.
</blockquote>
::I misread the period after the ) as a , which would have implied that emails are ok in limited circumstances, which I believed the user met. However this wasn't the case, and my reading of the policy was inaccurate. [[User:wctaiwan|wctaiwan]] has [//en.wikipedia.org/?diff=534924408&diffonly=1 reworded] that section, so it will be less likely to misread. I will leave a comment at the RfCN about my confusion and mistake. Sorry about that, [[User:Legoktm|Legoktm]] ([[User talk:Legoktm|talk]]) 05:10, 26 January 2013 (UTC)


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Legoktm (talk) 11:53, 22 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Hey

I saw your recent edit where you removed the https prefix on some URLS and you mentioned protocol-relative links. Will this always work? I'm often annoyed when I see padlocked diffs that go to a URL beginning with 'https://'. Your scheme may avoid the issue and allow everyone to have what they want. If it's safe to do so I would start submitting diffs in protocol-relative form wherever diffs are expected. Is this documented anywhere? Thanks, EdJohnston (talk) 19:04, 19 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Yup, it'll always work since the protocol is actually chosen by your browser. I found mw:MediaWiki_1.18#Protocol-relative_URLs which explains it well. Legoktm (talk) 19:28, 19 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Hey boss,

Have a slight issue with this article, as you're aware, which you may be able to help with. Recently “Uncyclopedia” has split into two different entities. As a very quick history lesson:

  • Site was originally opened at Uncyclopedia.org
  • Domain was purchased by Wikia a few years back, and had been moved over to Wikia servers piecemeal, so that the original site closed and became Uncyclopedia.wikia.com
  • The community has recently forked, so that there is almost identical content at Wikia sub-domain, and en.uncyclopedia.co

Which has meant that the community at the “new” domain is trying to pimp out their own variant of it, while the community at the “old” domain has been trying to keep their existing status alive. This has led to some more hawkish elements trying to create competition between the two. I'm definitely not impartial - neither is K7L(?), Isarra, Aimsplode, or numerous others who I've had edit wars on this article with in the past. But I'm trying to find an agreeable compromise where both domains are equally reflected. With the exception of me mistyping the URI of the new domain, I'd been trying to have the links relating back to both. I had changed back the sources to where they had originally been linked as well.

While this secondary aspect is unimportant - and fairness suggests that having half go one way and half go the other, as they lead to equally viable sources - having both domains reflected in the info box and in the “external links” section is relevant. And given the content of both sites is near identical, and both have a claim to being Uncyclopedia - because they both are - stripping this page of one or the other URI is inaccurate. Alexa doesn't help in determining which is more “popular” as the newer domain has only been in place for a short period (realistically only a fortnight since it has been “open”), and the older domain reflects the entirety of wikia.com, of which Uncyclopedia is 1.10% of the total.

I want to have as little as possible to do with keeping the Wikipedia entry accurate and equitable. But as there is an active element trying to remove all links to the Wikia sub-domain from every source possible and replace it with the newer domain, being inactive on this means allowing in accuracy and inconsistency to become part of the page relating back to the twin communities. And create two separate entries for this page is ridiculous at this stage.

Can I rely upon the Wikipedian community to come to an agreeable compromise on this - ideally those that have no vested interest in one side of the other, and maintain the page as NPOV as possible? If so, I'm happy to walk away and leave it in your capable hands.

As an aside - do you have a semi-automated method by which I can go through the Wikia based site and remove all hard-coded links written as “http://Uncyclopedia.wikia.com…” with “[{{fullurl:…”? Your coding knowledge and ability to create a decent bot is obviously superior to mine. PuppyOnTheRadio talk —Preceding undated comment added 23:03, 20 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for your comments. Unfortunately I'm a tad busy right now, so I think it's best if you re-post this (preferably in an abbreviated version :P) on Talk:Uncyclopedia under what K7L wrote. A third opinion has been requested, so hopefully that will be able to resolve the dispute as well.
As far as your bot question is, yes, you could probably look into using replace.py combined with Special:LinkSearch, however I would caution with doing an automated mass-replacement since it can interfere with system messages, javascript, and other things. Legoktm (talk) 09:11, 22 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Hi. Thanks for opening and advertising Wikipedia:Requests for comment/Article feedback; I appreciate it. :-) And I hope you post a view of your own, if you feel up to it. I'm interested in your thoughts on the future of this tool. --MZMcBride (talk) 01:42, 21 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

No problem. I'm nearly done with drafting it and will post shortly :) Legoktm (talk) 01:52, 21 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

A starbarn for you!

The Userpage Shield
Thanks for protecting my talk page. --Tito Dutta (talk) 06:30, 22 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
You're welcome :) Legoktm (talk) 09:07, 22 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Pending edits!

Do they count "rejecting pending edits" too under 3RR? And can you give me the coding guide of freenode chat (how to ping someone etc)?--Tito Dutta (talk) 12:19, 23 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Hm. I would probably say yes, since it technically makes an edit. I suppose one way around that is simply not to approve it :P
Wikipedia:IRC/Tutorial has some helpful information. To ping someone you can just type their username, so right now mine is "duh", so just say "duh: hello". I've also set my client up so if you use my real username, "legoktm", that notifies me as well. Legoktm (talk) 12:24, 23 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

The Signpost: 21 January 2013

OTRS comment

Not sure if you were aware of it or not, but we have the {{OTRS received}} template specifically for this purpose. VernoWhitney (talk) 23:00, 23 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I know about that template now, but I might have not back then. Thanks regardless :) Legoktm (talk) 03:57, 25 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

X!

That can't be my address or yours, please see the response on X!'s page.—cyberpower ChatOffline 00:14, 24 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Yup I goofed :( Legoktm (talk) 00:25, 24 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
It happens.  :)—cyberpower ChatOffline 00:29, 24 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I'm running for what now?

Thanks for swiftly disappearificating my surprise RfB... whilst it's nice to be appreciated, I think most people would just go with a barnstar... Yunshui  21:19, 24 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

No problem, I can tell you got quite a shock :P Legoktm (talk) 03:58, 25 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Thanks but no thanks. I'm rather tangentially involved and don't have an opinion either way really. Legoktm (talk) 03:59, 25 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

My username

Because of the disagreement, I've placed a request for comment up. You are welcome to discuss it here: Wikipedia:Requests_for_comment/User_names#sales002k.40suttonlea.org (yes I did copy that straight out of a URL).--90.217.236.85 (talk) 11:55, 25 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, please do not give 100% wrong advice to people. If you do not know policies, please do not respond to help requests. (✉→BWilkins←✎) 12:11, 25 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
You're right, I misread the policy. The version I read said:

Email addresses and URLs (such as "Alice@example.com" and "Example.com"). Plain domain names (without .com, .co.kr, etc.) are sometimes acceptable, such as when the purpose is simply to identify the user as a person, but they are inappropriate if they promote a commercial Web page.

I misread the period after the ) as a , which would have implied that emails are ok in limited circumstances, which I believed the user met. However this wasn't the case, and my reading of the policy was inaccurate. wctaiwan has reworded that section, so it will be less likely to misread. I will leave a comment at the RfCN about my confusion and mistake. Sorry about that, Legoktm (talk) 05:10, 26 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Wikidata weekly summary #42

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