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:Could you please make some small edits instead of a big huge one. Make sure everything is referenced. [[User:Bgwhite|Bgwhite]] ([[User talk:Bgwhite|talk]]) 19:44, 2 December 2015 (UTC)
:Could you please make some small edits instead of a big huge one. Make sure everything is referenced. [[User:Bgwhite|Bgwhite]] ([[User talk:Bgwhite|talk]]) 19:44, 2 December 2015 (UTC)

== Proportional Representation Editting ==

Hey Ontario, I have reverted your recent mass revert based on the [[WP:BRD]] process. You and {{u|BalCoder}} have had issues in working collaboratively but if needed, I will request that the page be fully protected for a period of 6 months due to your edit-warring with Balcoder, and vice versa, due to your lengthy absences between edits. This will mean that you will have to ask an Admin to make the edits for you via {{t|Edit fully-protected}} templates which will require discussion with Balcoder and other editors on your changes per [[WP:Edit requests]].<br/>It has also been suggested to you that you go through each paragraph section, one at a time, and explain why your changes for that section are acceptable by Wikipedia Policies, Guidelines and common sense, and that the changes are reliably sourced - perhaps by using the various {{t|cite}} templates available, with their <code>|quote= (insert supporting text here)</code> parameter. This second option will preclude a full-protection, but not eliminate possible page-protection, and will hopefully be productive in improving the PR article.<br/>Wishing you an easy and collaborative discussion about the PR article, [[User:Drcrazy102|Drcrazy102]] ([[User talk:Drcrazy102|talk]]) 00:22, 4 December 2015 (UTC)

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Edits and Reversions by User:BalCoder and User:Ontario Teacher BFA BEd on Proportional Representation

Collapse for ease of navigation. EdJohnston (talk) 20:42, 17 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]
The following discussion has been closed. Please do not modify it.

Please see Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents#New user Ontario Teacher BFA BEd, article Proportional representation. In the past, the article on Proportional representation has been subject to disputes. Your recent edits have been questioned, and a user is asking for administrators to take action against you. You can reply at the above link if you wish. Thank you, EdJohnston (talk) 15:45, 2 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for informing me of the complaint filed against me at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents#New user Ontario Teacher BFA BEd, article Proportional representation. I understand users are required to notify other users if they file a complaint against them. This was not done by BalCoder as the complaint was filed in bad faith. This user has engaged in unacceptable conduct such as vandalism, incivility, personal attacks, and harassment in violation of WP's conduct policy Wikipedia:List of policies. Thank you again for informing me of this egregious behaviour. Ontario Teacher BFA BEd (talk) 00:46, 6 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Ed, I was wondering if you know of any Admins who are interested in Politics/Voting Systems who would be able to help mediate and settle the dispute. The two users are reverting each other and I have attempted some basic mediation without much effect. Any help appreciated (even suggestions), Dr Crazy 102 (talk) 08:39, 17 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I left a note at User talk:Ontario Teacher BFA BEd. If you have time to do so, it would be helpful if someone (anyone) could list out on the talk page what some of the questions are that are in dispute. Eventually someone could open an WP:RFC for one or more disputed items. Thanks, EdJohnston (talk) 14:17, 17 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Hello EdJohnston ,

I recently added a table explaining the three electoral systems as: Proportional Representation Systems, Mixed Member Systems, and Plurality/Majority Systems.

Proportional Representation Systems Mixed Member Systems Plurality/Majority Systems
Single Transferable Vote Mixed Member Proportional First Past the Post
Party List Proportional Representation (closed/open/local) Alternative Vote Plus Alternative Vote/Instant-runoff voting
Additional Member System Block Vote
Majority Bonus System Limited Vote
Supplementary Vote
Two-Round System
Borda Count

These systems already existed in the Proportional Representation article prior to my contributions. I have also added a plethora of sources substantiating this information.[1][2] [3][4][5][6]: 22 [7][8][9][10][11] User:BalCoder is the only editor who has disagreed with my contributions. Additionally, he/she has refused to provide any sourced information to substantiate his/her opinions. I would welcome a mediation process. I would also welcome any editor who is willing to put the time and effort into providing sourced contributions to the article. In the mean time, I would appreciate it if Balcoder would leave the article alone while awaiting an Admin. Ontario Teacher BFA BEd (talk) 20:33, 17 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Please clarify which Block vote you mean on PR

Hey Ontario, could you please provide a clarified link to the desired "block vote" for the edit request. Don't edit the original request, but please provide the link underneath the request. Thanks, Dr Crazy 102 (talk) 01:20, 22 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, Ontario Teacher. It's good that you want to make contributions. It's bad that you appear to see the other contributors as a mere annoyance in your path. There is no substitute for getting WP:CONSENSUS. If you are all well-intentioned, that should be doable. EdJohnston (talk) 20:42, 17 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Hello EdJohnston, I welcome and appreciate the feedback and contributions from other editors. This is why I have, in good faith, sought and continue to seek a WP:CONSENSUS on the Talk:Proportional representation page. However, there is one specific editor who has chosen to arbitrarily reverted any and all of the content I have posted, regardless of how noncontroversial it is. Updates to the article in regards to which nations currently use PR have been reverted. For instance, Russia switched from List PR to MMP in 2014. [12] This sourced update was reverted without explanation. In particular, minor edits Help:Minor edit that I have made that only pertain to spelling and grammar errors and the addition of Wiki-links Help:Link to the appropriate articles have also been reverted without explanation. Thank you for your assistance in the mediation process. Ontario Teacher BFA BEd (talk) 22:00, 17 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

You are risking a block for edit warring

Hello Ontario Teacher. Some time back your name was reported at WP:ANI claiming you were engaged in disruptive editing. I followed up with a discussion that is now on your talk page at User talk:Ontario Teacher BFA BEd#Copy of discussion from EdJohnston's talk page. Now I see on 28 October you added again a large block of material resembling the one you previously added on 17 September. Since the discussion on the talk page does not show anyone agreeing with you, your persistence qualifies as edit warring. Your edit summary, "Restore updated version", must be a hint that your opponents are hopelessly behind the times and can't keep up with the self-evident logic of your superior version. In spite of my advice you did not wait for consensus but just forced your version into the article. Can you explain why you should not be blocked for edit warring? Thank you, EdJohnston (talk) 01:04, 19 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

EdJohnston,

You have stated "Since the discussion on the talk page does not show anyone agreeing with you". This is incorrect. For instance, User:Drcrazy102 suggested restoring the table on electoral systems that I implemented. You have also stated "Your edit summary, "Restore updated version", must be a hint that your opponents are hopelessly behind the times and can't keep up with the self-evident logic of your superior version." To be clear, there are not opponents (plural) on this issue; only one opponent. The only user who has disagreed with my contributions on this article is User:BalCoder. This user has provided zero sources to substantiate his/her opinion whereas I have provided over 30 on the talk page alone! No one has agreed with BalCoder on the talk page to justify his/her reversions. Furthermore, User:BalCoder has engaged in intentionally uncivilized behaviour such as calling me an "unscrupulous liar" (27 Sep 2015). Please review the tone of discussion on the Talk:Proportional representation page as well, which user has provided all of the sources, and the suggestion by User:Drcrazy102 to include the information table.Ontario Teacher BFA BEd (talk) 07:28, 19 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Considering I get mentioned twice here, both times on reference to an old edit request, I'll update my position on said table.


You can't copy or closely emulate another table from a published source. I retracted support for said request, considered an alternative but found out that it was already in the article. Cheers, Drcrazy102 (talk) 13:20, 19 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Hello! There is a DR/N request you may have interest in.

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Notice of Edit warring noticeboard discussion

Information icon Hello. This message is being sent to inform you that there is currently a discussion involving you at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Edit warring regarding a possible violation of Wikipedia's policy on edit warring. Thank you. BalCoder (talk) 10:02, 4 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Hello! There is a DR/N request you may have interest in.

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Please respond to whether you are willing to participate in dispute resolution. Robert McClenon (talk) 16:06, 23 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Hello User:Robert McClenon, I am willing to participate in a dispute resolution.Ontario Teacher BFA BEd (talk) 20:54, 23 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Blocked

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References

  1. ^ "Electoral Systems". ACE Electoral Knowledge Network. Retrieved 31 Aug 2015.
  2. ^ "Voting systems made simple". London: Electoral Reform Society. Retrieved 28 July 2014.
  3. ^ "Voting Systems Made Simple". Electoral Reform Society.
  4. ^ "Electoral Systems". Administration and Cost of Elections (ACE) Project. Retrieved 31 Aug 2015.
  5. ^ O’Neal, Brian. "Electoral Systems". Parliament of Canada. Retrieved 31 Aug 2015.
  6. ^ "Voting Counts: Electoral Reform for Canada" (PDF). Law Commission of Canada. 2004. p. 22.
  7. ^ Forder, James (2011). The case against voting reform. Oxford: Oneworld Publications. ISBN 978-1-85168-825-8.
  8. ^ "Electoral Systems and the Delimitation of Constituencies". International Foundation for Electoral Systems. 2 Jul 2009.
  9. ^ Moser, Robert G. (Dec 2004). "Mixed electoral systems and electoral system effects: controlled comparison and cross-national analysis" (in Volume 23 and Issue 4). Electoral Studies: An International Journal: 575–599. {{cite journal}}: Cite journal requires |journal= (help)CS1 maint: unrecognized language (link)
  10. ^ Massicotte, Louis (Sep 1999). "Mixed electoral systems: a conceptual and empirical survey" (in Volume 18 and Issue 3). Electoral Studies: An International Journal: 341–366. {{cite journal}}: Cite journal requires |journal= (help)CS1 maint: unrecognized language (link)
  11. ^ Manow, Philip (2007). "Electoral rules and legislative turnover: Evidence from Germany's mixed electoral system" (in Volume 30 and Issue 1). Electoral Studies: An International Journal: 195–207. {{cite journal}}: Cite journal requires |journal= (help)CS1 maint: unrecognized language (link)
  12. ^ "Putin signs into law Duma mixed electoral system: http://sputniknews.com/voiceofrussia/news/2014_02_24/Putin-signs-into-law-Duma-mixed-electoral-system-5992/". Radio The Voice of Russia. 24 Feb 2014. {{cite web}}: External link in |title= (help)

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Could you please make some small edits instead of a big huge one. Make sure everything is referenced. Bgwhite (talk) 19:44, 2 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
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