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==Wording that should be avoided==
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Wikipedia's Manual of Style [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style/] advises against a lot of words and phrases that Dr.K wants to use [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Elgin_Marbles&type=revision&diff=702617723&oldid=702611459].<br />
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Such as<br />
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'''Weasel:''' "researchers have so far failed to locate any traces of it"; it should just be - "it has yet to be found".<br />
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'''Puffery:''' "Ottoman archives still hold an outstanding number of similar documents". it should just be "Ottoman archives still hold an number of similar documents"<br />
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'''Expressions of doubt:''' "He allegedly obtained"; "the Italian copy of the alleged firman"; "the Italian translation purportedly in his possession"; <br />
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'''Synonyms for said:''' "The report claimed"; "claimed to possess" <br />
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'''Editorializing''': "failed to locate any traces of it" - it is a discreet object, a document, so it has either been found or has not been found, one cannot find "traces" of a document unless "traces" is used in the sense of referring to mentions of that document in other documents (in which case we do have traces of it); The wording "Moreover, the parliamentary record " and "In addition, the committee report" makes an unsupported connection between two things. <br />
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'''Unspecified places or events:''' "the Ottoman archives". I think this is a sly little ommission, since the firman was left in Athens, not Istanbul. The text should be "the Ottoman archives in Istanbul".<br />Now that much of the inappropriate wording has been individually pointed out, I hope Dr.K will not revert my edit again. [[User:Tiptoethrutheminefield|Tiptoethrutheminefield]] ([[User talk:Tiptoethrutheminefield|talk]]) 21:33, 2 February 2016 (UTC)
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Wording that should be avoided

Wikipedia's Manual of Style [1] advises against a lot of words and phrases that Dr.K wants to use [2].
Such as
Weasel: "researchers have so far failed to locate any traces of it"; it should just be - "it has yet to be found".
Puffery: "Ottoman archives still hold an outstanding number of similar documents". it should just be "Ottoman archives still hold an number of similar documents"
Expressions of doubt: "He allegedly obtained"; "the Italian copy of the alleged firman"; "the Italian translation purportedly in his possession";
Synonyms for said: "The report claimed"; "claimed to possess"
Editorializing: "failed to locate any traces of it" - it is a discreet object, a document, so it has either been found or has not been found, one cannot find "traces" of a document unless "traces" is used in the sense of referring to mentions of that document in other documents (in which case we do have traces of it); The wording "Moreover, the parliamentary record " and "In addition, the committee report" makes an unsupported connection between two things.
Unspecified places or events: "the Ottoman archives". I think this is a sly little ommission, since the firman was left in Athens, not Istanbul. The text should be "the Ottoman archives in Istanbul".
Now that much of the inappropriate wording has been individually pointed out, I hope Dr.K will not revert my edit again. Tiptoethrutheminefield (talk) 21:33, 2 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]