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Requested move 13 March 2017

It has been proposed in this section that Sex trade in Senegal be renamed and moved to Prostitution in Senegal.

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Sex trade in Senegal → Prostitution in Senegal – I really intended this article Sex trade in Senegal to be about prostitution and thought sex trade is a good a descriptor and then realized that Prostitution in Senegal would be a more appropriate title. Dwanyewest (talk) 19:44, 13 March 2017 (UTC) --Relisting. Andrewa (talk) 09:02, 21 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Move per nom as per the format of the other countries' articles. AngusWOOF (bark • sniff) 03:22, 14 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose. If we wish to have an article at Prostitution in Senegal, we should instead reinstate the previous article at that title and merge and redirect this page to it, thus preserving the edit histories. Andrewa (talk) 22:10, 22 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]
OpposeTrade is more suitable for use in business.--Tr56tr (talk) 01:10, 23 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Discussion

This is a real mess. There were previous articles at Prostitution in Senegal and Prostitution in Ghana that were merged to Prostitution in Africa. Both of those previous articles were started and largely built by Dwanyewest, who now has started two new articles and wants them both moved over the redirects, see Talk:Sex trade in Ghana#Requested move 13 March 2017. This all seems out of process to me, and has created a significant and unnecessary task preserving the edit histories, if the moves go ahead. Andrewa (talk) 09:09, 21 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I have posted heads-ups at WikiProject Africa and WikiProject Sexology and sexuality asking for help with this.

The easiest solution is to merge and redirect these new articles to Prostitution in Africa, as was done with the previous articles. But that may not be the best solution. Comments please. Andrewa (talk) 09:40, 21 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I believe there is enough information and sources to justify a solo article. Dwanyewest (talk) 16:45, 21 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

That may be so, but recreating articles you created in the first place that had since been merged is not the way to do it. We now have a situation where the histories of the (original) merged articles must be preserved for copyleft purposes, because it's less work to do that than to work out exactly what and whose contributions have been incorporated into the other article.

I still believe that the neatest solution now is to merge and redirect your latest articles too. Then, if you wish to split out solo articles, discuss that per wp:split#Procedure If unsure...

Interested in other ideas... particularly from people prepared to do the work involved (and I recognise you are one of those). Andrewa (talk) 03:22, 22 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

The original text moved to the above topic.

Butsex trade is closer business than prostitution.Prostitition is a moral judgment.--Tr56tr (talk) 01:10, 23 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Not sure whether you mean we should or should not move... can you explain? Andrewa (talk) 22:01, 22 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Hmmm... from this edit it would appear that you oppose this move too... Tr56tr, perhaps you should make that explicit above? Andrewa (talk) 22:16, 22 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for reminding. My message is in the wrong place.--Tr56tr (talk) 01:10, 23 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Whatever happens to this RM, no further moves, merges or splits affecting this topic should take place without discussion. Talk:Prostitution in Africa#Ghana and Senegal is probably the place to start. Andrewa (talk) 22:39, 22 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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 * '''Oppose'''. If we wish to have an article at ''Prostitution in Senegal'', we should instead reinstate the [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Prostitution_in_Senegal&oldid=229318828 previous article at that title] and merge and redirect this page to it, thus preserving the edit histories. [[User:Andrewa|Andrewa]] ([[User talk:Andrewa|talk]]) 22:10, 22 March 2017 (UTC)
+*'''Oppose'''Trade is more suitable for use in business.--[[User:Tr56tr|Tr56tr]] ([[User talk:Tr56tr|talk]]) 01:10, 23 March 2017 (UTC)
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 :::Interested in other ideas... particularly from people prepared to do the work involved (and I recognise you are one of those). [[User:Andrewa|Andrewa]] ([[User talk:Andrewa|talk]]) 03:22, 22 March 2017 (UTC)
+:::The original text moved to the above topic.
-:::Trade is more suitable for use in business.--[[User:Tr56tr|Tr56tr]] ([[User talk:Tr56tr|talk]]) 05:27, 22 March 2017 (UTC)
+:::'''But'''sex trade is closer business than prostitution.Prostitition is a moral judgment.--[[User:Tr56tr|Tr56tr]] ([[User talk:Tr56tr|talk]]) 01:10, 23 March 2017 (UTC)
 ::::Not sure whether you mean we should or should not move... can you explain? [[User:Andrewa|Andrewa]] ([[User talk:Andrewa|talk]]) 22:01, 22 March 2017 (UTC)
 :::::Hmmm... from [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Sex_trade_in_Ghana&diff=771556519&oldid=771399607 this edit] it would appear that you ''oppose'' this move too... {{u|Tr56tr}}, perhaps you should make that explicit above? [[User:Andrewa|Andrewa]] ([[User talk:Andrewa|talk]]) 22:16, 22 March 2017 (UTC)
+::::::Thanks for reminding. My message is in the wrong place.--[[User:Tr56tr|Tr56tr]] ([[User talk:Tr56tr|talk]]) 01:10, 23 March 2017 (UTC)
 Whatever happens to this RM, no further moves, merges or splits affecting this topic should take place without discussion. [[Talk:Prostitution in Africa#Ghana and Senegal]] is probably the place to start. [[User:Andrewa|Andrewa]] ([[User talk:Andrewa|talk]]) 22:39, 22 March 2017 (UTC)