User talk:Moneytrees

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Copyright problem

This article has been tagged as part of a large-scale clean-up project of multiple article copyright infringement. (See the investigation subpage) It will likely be deleted after one week unless it is rewritten to remove content placed by the article's creator, who has placed copyrighted content into Wikipedia from multiple sources without verifying permission. For instance, in this edit he placed content here from [1] (the copyright holders have complained; OTRS agents see ticket:2010081210007017). In this edit, he evidently copied content from this journal article, page 2. Other content he placed may also violate copyright policies.

For legal reasons, Wikipedia cannot accept copyrighted text or images borrowed from other web sites or printed material; such additions must be deleted. Major contributions by contributors who have been verified to have violated copyright in multiple articles may be presumptively deleted in accordance with Wikipedia:Copyright violations.

Interested contributors are invited to help clarify the copyright status of this material or rewrite the article in original language at the temporary page linked from the article's face. Please see our guideline on non-free text for how to properly implement limited quotations of copyrighted text. --Moonriddengirl ^(talk) 17:39, 20 August 2010 (UTC)

I couldn't figure out where you wanted it, so you get it here. Cheers, WilyD 12:45, 20 November 2019 (UTC)

WilyD, Thank you very much; I meant to say Wikipedia talk:Contributor copyright investigations/20100114, but its also fine here, I really just needed to know what the article had plagiarized from. Thanks a ton, 💵Money💵emoji💵^{Talk💸Help out at CCI!} 13:20, 20 November 2019 (UTC)

copyright

Hey, Money emoji! You'd said over at the mentoring page that if anyone needed help figuring out copyright, you were available. I could use some tutoring in how to recognize it lol. I've generally just relied on tools like Earwig for dyk purposes, but in helping Elisa I'm finding that it's not a sensitive enough tool. (You can take a look at the discussions re: John Hoyle (died 1692) and see what I missed there, for instance, and I'd literally taken at least a look at every available cited source. The problem was the copyvio was from a source that was no longer cited.) At any rate, help figuring out copyvio would be great! --valereee (talk) 14:01, 23 November 2019 (UTC)

Valereee, No problem (figuring out how to use earwig can be quite challenging), here is some information that can be helpful in Elisa's case;

• The default setting on earwig looks at all the sources in the article, and looks a few keywords up online (You can also use turnitin but it doesn't seem to do much in my experience with the tool). Earwig will, about 95% of the time, find the violations committed in the article. Occasionally, however, it doesn't, and you won't get any results. If this happens and you're suspicious of the text, I would look at it and figure out if it's worded in a suspicious way (eg. Isn't wp prose). I would then remove/reword anything that looks particularly fishy, but I wouldn't go overboard; keep in mind that some things have a limited way of being said.
• If you aren't already, work off of Elisa's CCI by clicking on the diffs after the article listing. Sources inserted in those edits may have been removed over time and thus may not show up on earwig like what happened on John Hoyle. Take the URL of the removed sources and copy it into the box that says "URL comparison:", and then enter the name of the article. Here's an example.
• In Elisa's case, while a good deal of copying came from sources available online, some aren't, and will have to be found IRL. In most cases where copying from offline sources happened a lot in a CCI, there would be presumptive removals; fortunately, however, unlike those CCIs, Elisa isn't a cbanned LTA, and can be contacted on site. Thus, I am going to go through the CCI and compile a list of online sources cited, and dump them somewhere, so we can systematically check the sources for violations; either through Elisa's copies of the sources, or through other means, like going to a library (there's 8 of us, and I have some on and off site friends that can help us out). Whatever way we try to combat the CCI, I will promise you, and you can hold me to this, that the CCI WILL be completed within a year and won't become part of the backlog there. Sorry for the whole essay, 💵Money💵emoji💵^{Talk💸Help out at CCI!} 16:57, 23 November 2019 (UTC)