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:* '''Propose merger''' {{lc|People by city or town in County Dublin}}<br /> into [[:Category:People by city or town in the Republic of Ireland]] |
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:'''Nominator's rationale:''' Superfluous intermediate category. County Dublin was abolished in 1994. These places are all categorised properly in the 3 new counties. [[User:Rathfelder|Rathfelder]] ([[User talk:Rathfelder|talk]]) 19:48, 8 April 2020 (UTC) |
:'''Nominator's rationale:''' Superfluous intermediate category. County Dublin was abolished in 1994. These places are all categorised properly in the 3 new counties. [[User:Rathfelder|Rathfelder]] ([[User talk:Rathfelder|talk]]) 19:48, 8 April 2020 (UTC) |
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*'''Oppose'''. [[Dublin County Council]] was abolished as a ''local govt entity'', but [[County Dublin]] still exists for many other administrative purposes and is widely used as an informal geographical area -- which it does very well, having defined boundaries which have been stable for over 400 years. |
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:Note that the parent [[:Category:County Dublin]] exists, and has almost 100 eponymous subcats. There is no reason to rip out one part of this established series. --[[User:BrownHairedGirl|<span style="font-variant:small-caps"><span style="color:#663200;">Brown</span>HairedGirl</span>]] <small>[[User talk:BrownHairedGirl|(talk)]] • ([[Special:Contributions/BrownHairedGirl|contribs]])</small> 19:56, 8 April 2020 (UTC) |
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::Correction: I just checked, and [[:Category:County Dublin]] actually has 122 subcats which include the words "County Dublin". |
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::It's a pity that @[[User:Rathfelder|Rathfelder]] didn't take a minute to study the category structure before making this nomination. Even a few seconds to navigate to v shoukd have been enough. {{smiley|sad}} --[[User:BrownHairedGirl|<span style="font-variant:small-caps"><span style="color:#663200;">Brown</span>HairedGirl</span>]] <small>[[User talk:BrownHairedGirl|(talk)]] • ([[Special:Contributions/BrownHairedGirl|contribs]])</small> 20:03, 8 April 2020 (UTC) |
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==== Category:Burntisland Shipyard Amateur F.C. players ==== |
==== Category:Burntisland Shipyard Amateur F.C. players ==== |
Revision as of 20:03, 8 April 2020
April 8
NEW NOMINATIONS
Category:People of the Polish–Teutonic War (1519–1521) (German side)
- Nominator's rationale: Seems a bit redundant for only one item. Gonnym (talk) 19:54, 8 April 2020 (UTC)
Category:People by city or town in County Dublin
- Propose merger Category:People by city or town in County Dublin (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
into Category:People by city or town in the Republic of Ireland
- Propose merger Category:People by city or town in County Dublin (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
- Nominator's rationale: Superfluous intermediate category. County Dublin was abolished in 1994. These places are all categorised properly in the 3 new counties. Rathfelder (talk) 19:48, 8 April 2020 (UTC)
- Oppose. Dublin County Council was abolished as a local govt entity, but County Dublin still exists for many other administrative purposes and is widely used as an informal geographical area -- which it does very well, having defined boundaries which have been stable for over 400 years.
- Note that the parent Category:County Dublin exists, and has almost 100 eponymous subcats. There is no reason to rip out one part of this established series. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 19:56, 8 April 2020 (UTC)
- Correction: I just checked, and Category:County Dublin actually has 122 subcats which include the words "County Dublin".
- It's a pity that @Rathfelder didn't take a minute to study the category structure before making this nomination. Even a few seconds to navigate to v shoukd have been enough.
--BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 20:03, 8 April 2020 (UTC)
Category:Burntisland Shipyard Amateur F.C. players
- Nominator's rationale: For consistency with the article on the club, Burntisland Shipyard F.C.. Jellyman (talk) 15:15, 8 April 2020 (UTC)
- Support per nom. KingSkyLord (talk | contribs) 18:06, 8 April 2020 (UTC)
Category:Association football players who received a testmonial
- Nominator's rationale: Less than realistic misspelling, coming from an error when someone made a mistake before moving it to the real category. KingSkyLord (talk | contribs) 14:44, 8 April 2020 (UTC)
- Delete both as non-defining. I've just checked a dozen of them at random in the "real category", non of them mention this in the lead, and some of them don't mention it anywhere in the article. Lugnuts Fire Walk with Me 14:52, 8 April 2020 (UTC)
- Delete both per Lugnuts. I have tagged the other category as well. Marcocapelle (talk) 15:48, 8 April 2020 (UTC)
Eurovision Song Contest entrants of country
- Propose renaming Category:Albanian Eurovision Song Contest entrants to Category:Eurovision Song Contest entrants of Albania
- Propose renaming Category:Andorran Eurovision Song Contest entrants to Category:Eurovision Song Contest entrants of Andorra
- Propose renaming Category:Armenian Eurovision Song Contest entrants to Category:Eurovision Song Contest entrants of Armenia
- Propose renaming Category:Australian Eurovision Song Contest entrants to Category:Eurovision Song Contest entrants of Australia
- Propose renaming Category:Austrian Eurovision Song Contest entrants to Category:Eurovision Song Contest entrants of Austria
- Propose renaming Category:Azerbaijani Eurovision Song Contest entrants to Category:Eurovision Song Contest entrants of Azerbaijan
- Propose renaming Category:Belarusian Eurovision Song Contest entrants to Category:Eurovision Song Contest entrants of Belarus
- Propose renaming Category:Belgian Eurovision Song Contest entrants to Category:Eurovision Song Contest entrants of Belgium
- Propose renaming Category:Bosnia and Herzegovina Eurovision Song Contest entrants to Category:Eurovision Song Contest entrants of Bosnia and Herzegovina
- Propose renaming Category:British Eurovision Song Contest entrants to Category:Eurovision Song Contest entrants of the United Kingdom
- Propose renaming Category:Bulgarian Eurovision Song Contest entrants to Category:Eurovision Song Contest entrants of Bulgaria
- Propose renaming Category:Croatian Eurovision Song Contest entrants to Category:Eurovision Song Contest entrants of Croatia
- Propose renaming Category:Cypriot Eurovision Song Contest entrants to Category:Eurovision Song Contest entrants of Cyprus
- Propose renaming Category:Czech Eurovision Song Contest entrants to Category:Eurovision Song Contest entrants of the Czech Republic
- Propose renaming Category:Danish Eurovision Song Contest entrants to Category:Eurovision Song Contest entrants of Denmark
- Propose renaming Category:Dutch Eurovision Song Contest entrants to Category:Eurovision Song Contest entrants of the Netherlands
- Propose renaming Category:Estonian Eurovision Song Contest entrants to Category:Eurovision Song Contest entrants of Estonia
- Propose renaming Category:Finnish Eurovision Song Contest entrants to Category:Eurovision Song Contest entrants of Finland
- Propose renaming Category:French Eurovision Song Contest entrants to Category:Eurovision Song Contest entrants of France
- Propose renaming Category:German Eurovision Song Contest entrants to Category:Eurovision Song Contest entrants of Germany
- Propose renaming Category:Greek Eurovision Song Contest entrants to Category:Eurovision Song Contest entrants of Greece
- Propose renaming Category:Hungarian Eurovision Song Contest entrants to Category:Eurovision Song Contest entrants of Hungary
- Propose renaming Category:Icelandic Eurovision Song Contest entrants to Category:Eurovision Song Contest entrants of Iceland
- Propose renaming Category:Irish Eurovision Song Contest entrants to Category:Eurovision Song Contest entrants of Ireland
- Propose renaming Category:Israeli Eurovision Song Contest entrants to Category:Eurovision Song Contest entrants of Israel
- Propose renaming Category:Italian Eurovision Song Contest entrants to Category:Eurovision Song Contest entrants of Italy
- Propose renaming Category:Latvian Eurovision Song Contest entrants to Category:Eurovision Song Contest entrants of Latvia
- Propose renaming Category:Lithuanian Eurovision Song Contest entrants to Category:Eurovision Song Contest entrants of Lithuania
- Propose renaming Category:Luxembourgian Eurovision Song Contest entrants to Category:Eurovision Song Contest entrants of Luxembourg
- Propose renaming Category:Macedonian Eurovision Song Contest entrants to Category:Eurovision Song Contest entrants of North Macedonia
- Propose renaming Category:Maltese Eurovision Song Contest entrants to Category:Eurovision Song Contest entrants of Malta
- Propose renaming Category:Moldovan Eurovision Song Contest entrants to Category:Eurovision Song Contest entrants of Moldova
- Propose renaming Category:Monegasque Eurovision Song Contest entrants to Category:Eurovision Song Contest entrants of Monaco
- Propose renaming Category:Montenegrin Eurovision Song Contest entrants to Category:Eurovision Song Contest entrants of Montenegro
- Propose renaming Category:Norwegian Eurovision Song Contest entrants to Category:Eurovision Song Contest entrants of Norway
- Propose renaming Category:Polish Eurovision Song Contest entrants to Category:Eurovision Song Contest entrants of Poland
- Propose renaming Category:Portuguese Eurovision Song Contest entrants to Category:Eurovision Song Contest entrants of Portugal
- Propose renaming Category:Romanian Eurovision Song Contest entrants to Category:Eurovision Song Contest entrants of Romania
- Propose renaming Category:Russian Eurovision Song Contest entrants to Category:Eurovision Song Contest entrants of Russia
- Propose renaming Category:Sammarinese Eurovision Song Contest entrants to Category:Eurovision Song Contest entrants of San Marino
- Propose renaming Category:Serbia and Montenegro Eurovision Song Contest entrants to Category:Eurovision Song Contest entrants of Serbia and Montenegro
- Propose renaming Category:Serbian Eurovision Song Contest entrants to Category:Eurovision Song Contest entrants of Serbia
- Propose renaming Category:Slovak Eurovision Song Contest entrants to Category:Eurovision Song Contest entrants of Slovakia
- Propose renaming Category:Slovenian Eurovision Song Contest entrants to Category:Eurovision Song Contest entrants of Slovenia
- Propose renaming Category:Spanish Eurovision Song Contest entrants to Category:Eurovision Song Contest entrants of Spain
- Propose renaming Category:Swedish Eurovision Song Contest entrants to Category:Eurovision Song Contest entrants of Sweden
- Propose renaming Category:Swiss Eurovision Song Contest entrants to Category:Eurovision Song Contest entrants of Switzerland
- Propose renaming Category:Turkish Eurovision Song Contest entrants to Category:Eurovision Song Contest entrants of Turkey
- Propose renaming Category:Ukrainian Eurovision Song Contest entrants to Category:Eurovision Song Contest entrants of Ukraine
- Propose renaming Category:Yugoslavian Eurovision Song Contest entrants to Category:Eurovision Song Contest entrants of Yugoslavia
- Nominator's rationale: Stemming from previous conversations about the issues with this existing naming convention, I am seeking to rename these so that the entrants aren't assigned a nationality. Each country in the contest can choose whoever they want to represent them. The point of these categories is simply to group entrants who have represented a specific country, not to group people of a specific national background. The category name is thus misleading. About 10 years ago, other categories that faced this issue were renamed in this same fashion. This appears to be the only one on my radar that was missed. Please see here for the discussion that lead to fixing the "song" category and also the larger discussion here that originally got us thinking. Grk1011 (talk) 14:34, 8 April 2020 (UTC)
- Support per nom. Especially true for countries whose demonym is a sensitive issue or not necessarily a synonym for the nationality, such as British and Irish. dummelaksen (talk) 14:57, 8 April 2020 (UTC)
- Suppert with one change: "Eurovision Song Contest entrants of Macedonia" should be "Eurovision Song Contest entrants of North Macedonia" to reflect the country's name as of February 2019. IceWelder [✉] 15:08, 8 April 2020 (UTC)
- Fixed. I wrote that on the category page itself, but apparently didn't carry it over onto this page. Grk1011 (talk) 15:12, 8 April 2020 (UTC)
- Support per nom. KingSkyLord (talk | contribs) 19:55, 8 April 2020 (UTC)
Category:Deaths due to air raids
- Propose merging Category:Deaths due to air raids to Category:Deaths by airstrike
- Nominator's rationale: Duplicate with different term. Cavrdg (talk) 10:37, 8 April 2020 (UTC)
Category:Television shows shot in Bihar
- Nominator's rationale: There is no established category tree for television shows shot in a particular location, and these categories have just one and two pages, respectively. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 03:39, 8 April 2020 (UTC)
- There is Category:Television_series_by_country_of_shooting_location—Prisencolin (talk) 04:33, 8 April 2020 (UTC)
Category:Rivers named after discoverer's ship
- Propose Deleting Category:Rivers named after discoverer's ship
- Nominator's rationale: Per WP:SHAREDNAME
- This one is pretty self-explanatory. - RevelationDirect (talk) 01:05, 8 April 2020 (UTC)
Category:Fictional American people of Assyrian descent
- Propose Deleting Category:Fictional Assyrian people
- Propose Deleting Category:Fictional American people of Assyrian descent
- Nominator's rationale: Per the spirit of WP:C1, an unpopulated category
- This tree only has one article, Yossarian, who is a character in two of Joseph Heller's novels, Catch-22 and its sequel Closing Time. The main article has a relevant passage for this nomination:
- Catch-22 introduces Yossarian as an American soldier in World War II with Assyrian heritage, although Closing Time clarifies this to be a joke and that his heritage and surname are in fact Armenian.
- An alternate approach here would be for me to just empty the category but I wanted to make sure we had consensus since the character seems Assyrian in the first book. - RevelationDirect (talk) 00:49, 8 April 2020 (UTC)
- Support per nom. This example also raises the question whether we should categorize fictional characters by descent at all. A character's descent is a so minor characteristic that authors can easily change their mind about it without changing the character as a whole. Marcocapelle (talk) 14:09, 8 April 2020 (UTC)
- Support Marcocapelle sums it up nicely. Previous bulk nominations have closed as no consensus, but as noted at the one at the most recent nom there have been no nominations covering the entire tree. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 18:49, 8 April 2020 (UTC)