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There is a broad consensus among classical composer editors, as instantiated in the guidelines at WikiProject Composers, WikiProject Opera, and WikiProject Biography that biographical infoboxes are not appropriate for composer articles. Two editors seem to be insisting that that consensus be reinstantiated on this articles talk page. So, I'll add my voice opposing its use, for all the reasons given in all the identical discussions prior. [[User:Fireplace|Fireplace]] 18:47, 7 June 2007 (UTC) |
There is a broad consensus among classical composer editors, as instantiated in the guidelines at WikiProject Composers, WikiProject Opera, and WikiProject Biography that biographical infoboxes are not appropriate for composer articles. Two editors seem to be insisting that that consensus be reinstantiated on this articles talk page. So, I'll add my voice opposing its use, for all the reasons given in all the identical discussions prior. [[User:Fireplace|Fireplace]] 18:47, 7 June 2007 (UTC) |
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:Those editors do not [[WP:OWN|own]] this article, nor any other article or set of articles. And there isn't even consensus on that project's talk pages. Nor does WP Biography say what you claim. [[User:Pigsonthewing|Andy Mabbett]] 19:47, 7 June 2007 (UTC) |
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The paragraph about Liszt and Grieg doesn't make sense and was obviously written by a non-native speaker of English. Can someone make sense of it and clean it up please? 14:56, 24 November 2005 66.214.230.155
- I agree... Pfalstad 00:32, 16 December 2005 (UTC)
Thank you Pavel for removing every single addition I have made to wikipedia, yet I want to share a website I have found which has free audio files for many composers. Grieg audio MP3 files
I would like to know what people who actually understand music (unlike my good friend Pavel Vozenilek) think about this free audio website.
Thanks for your time.
- (The edit above was from User:Musicalplayer.)
- The edits are like links as [1] and few more ones for other composers.
- Now, the question is whether the link is or isn't appropriate for the article. Pavel Vozenilek 06:18, 18 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- Not appropriate. See Talk:Sergei Rachmaninoff#pianoparadise.com. Dewet 15:57, 20 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Bull related to Grieg's mother??
I removed the text saying that Bull was Gesine's brother-in-law. That would make Bull Grieg's uncle by marriage. This is not supported by any reference I have ever seen. Bull'http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Edvard_Grieg&action=edits wives were French and American. Neither of them could have been the sister of the Norwegian Gesine Judith Hagerup. JackofOz 00:03, 24 April 2006 (UTC)
- You're right. He was merely a friend of the family AFAIK. — Pladask 15:52, 30 July 2006 (UTC)
- Too fast ... actually, Ole's brother was married to Gesine's sister, which doesn't make Ole Gesine's brother-in-law, but somewhat of a semi-brother-in-law. :-) I'll edit the article accordingly. — Pladask 16:03, 30 July 2006 (UTC)
Morning Mood typically associated with nordic scenes?
- Morning Mood was a favorite of Carl Stalling who often used it for morning establishing shots in Warner Bros. cartoons. It is now typically associated with nordic scenes; however, it was meant to depict sunrise over the Sahara Desert.
After growing up with Warner Bros. cartoons, I associate Morning Mood with sunrise over American countrysides, not "nordic scenes" as mentioned above. (I'm 39 years old.) I'm wondering who "typically associates it with nordic scenes." —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 24.10.181.199 (talk) 21:26, 8 January 2007 (UTC).
Mountain King and Peer Gynt
Is it not redundant to list both In The Hall of the Mountain King and Peer Gynt on the front page for Grieg? The article for Mountain King says that the song was actually written for Gynt. I'd change it myself, but won't, for fear of having missed something.
Realdeal 55 07:39, 18 January 2007 (UTC)
Quality of Article
The article has too many sentences with abrupt ends. "In 18XX he survived a lung disease." What lung disease. Discuss —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 74.112.45.224 (talk) 00:47, 19 February 2007 (UTC).
Complete list of works
At the bottom of the page there is a link to a list of Grieg's works. The problem is this list isn't complete. I got several pieces of Grieg's music which instead of opus numbers have letters EG (and numbers of course). Like EG107 - Funeral March dedicated to someone. Is this a catalogue of unpublished works, an alternative catalogue or what? Thanks in advance. Nikolay, Moscow217.21.216.48 09:26, 20 March 2007 (UTC)
- Now I have made a complete list. Grieg has many unpublished works - they are EG. Karstein 00:28, 21 May 2007 (UTC)
Infobox
I see that 'Fireplace' has again removed the infobox, claiming consensus where, clearly, none exists, and resorting to ad hominem attacks in his edit summaries. Andy Mabbett 13:44, 7 June 2007 (UTC)
- For consensus, see here and here. Regarding my edit summaries, see generally Pigsonthewing's block log and his history at ANI. See specifically the ANI regarding this user surrounding infoboxes and the subsequent ArmCom enforcement. Note also that Pigsonthewing is currently gaming the system by reverting this article once a week to avoid the terms of his ArbCom probation. Fireplace 14:03, 7 June 2007 (UTC)
- For lack of consensus, see this article's edit history, and the last week or so on Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Composers. For ad hominem, see above. Andy Mabbett 14:12, 7 June 2007 (UTC)
There is a broad consensus among classical composer editors, as instantiated in the guidelines at WikiProject Composers, WikiProject Opera, and WikiProject Biography that biographical infoboxes are not appropriate for composer articles. Two editors seem to be insisting that that consensus be reinstantiated on this articles talk page. So, I'll add my voice opposing its use, for all the reasons given in all the identical discussions prior. Fireplace 18:47, 7 June 2007 (UTC)
- Those editors do not own this article, nor any other article or set of articles. And there isn't even consensus on that project's talk pages. Nor does WP Biography say what you claim. Andy Mabbett 19:47, 7 June 2007 (UTC)