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::No worries. I understand how it can seem helpful, but it looks bad and doesn't actually help when closing discussions. I've closed a fair number of discussions, and I specifically don't look at any !vote counts or the like, and if it's a content RFC I don't even look at the article. It's best to go into a closing with as little prejudice as possible. [[User:ScottishFinnishRadish|ScottishFinnishRadish]] ([[User talk:ScottishFinnishRadish|talk]]) 17:53, 23 February 2023 (UTC)
::No worries. I understand how it can seem helpful, but it looks bad and doesn't actually help when closing discussions. I've closed a fair number of discussions, and I specifically don't look at any !vote counts or the like, and if it's a content RFC I don't even look at the article. It's best to go into a closing with as little prejudice as possible. [[User:ScottishFinnishRadish|ScottishFinnishRadish]] ([[User talk:ScottishFinnishRadish|talk]]) 17:53, 23 February 2023 (UTC)
:::Makes sense! [[User:Ganesha811|—Ganesha811]] ([[User talk:Ganesha811#top|talk]]) 17:55, 23 February 2023 (UTC)
:::Makes sense! [[User:Ganesha811|—Ganesha811]] ([[User talk:Ganesha811#top|talk]]) 17:55, 23 February 2023 (UTC)

== Emigrants from British India to the United States ==

I really think this is a better form to use in such categories. I think I had forgotten the other one existed when I created the new one. There is no difference, but I think the Emigrants from X place to Y place is a better overall form. This especially applies in places like British India or the Ottoman Empire, where subjects could identify in many ways, and often would not see a loyalty to the ruling polity, but we are categorizing the flow of people from place X to place Y.[[User:Johnpacklambert|John Pack Lambert]] ([[User talk:Johnpacklambert|talk]]) 18:29, 23 February 2023 (UTC)

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Rough counts

It's generally not constructive to provide sections like you added at ANI, as the closer will be reading and assessing the entire discussion anyway, and write-ups like that can be seen as trying to sway the closer. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 17:46, 23 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

My apologies, I didn't realize that wasn't an acceptable practice. Was just curious myself, and having counted, figured I'd share. I will bear this in mind for the future. —Ganesha811 (talk) 17:49, 23 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
That's why we call them !votes. ^_^ --Licks-rocks (talk) 17:52, 23 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Yup, I'm aware - however, I know that where there is not an clear deficit of policy-based arguments on one side, the rough count is often judged by the closer as part of assessing consensus. Nevertheless, it was unwise to share such a count without being the closer, out of idle curiosity. My mistake! —Ganesha811 (talk) 17:54, 23 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
No worries. I understand how it can seem helpful, but it looks bad and doesn't actually help when closing discussions. I've closed a fair number of discussions, and I specifically don't look at any !vote counts or the like, and if it's a content RFC I don't even look at the article. It's best to go into a closing with as little prejudice as possible. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 17:53, 23 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Makes sense! —Ganesha811 (talk) 17:55, 23 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Emigrants from British India to the United States

I really think this is a better form to use in such categories. I think I had forgotten the other one existed when I created the new one. There is no difference, but I think the Emigrants from X place to Y place is a better overall form. This especially applies in places like British India or the Ottoman Empire, where subjects could identify in many ways, and often would not see a loyalty to the ruling polity, but we are categorizing the flow of people from place X to place Y.John Pack Lambert (talk) 18:29, 23 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]