Talk:Madison, Wisconsin

Sports Sports Sports

I find it weird that the athletics section is so messy, especially when sports are so important to the city. Is anyone willing to clean it up a tad?

I think that there are numerous subsections in this page that should be split off into their own articles. Architecture is a prime example of a section that could become its own article. Thoughts?

Potential article splits

I hope that we can agree that the page has gotten too long to meet criteria for a good article. There are plenty of section and subsections that I believe could be split off to form new pages.

Madison Emergency Services

   (Police Department and Fire Department)

Madison Neighborhoods Architecture in Madison, Wisconsin

Splitting proposal

I propose that sections Madison Police Department and Madison Fire Department be split into a separate page called Emergency Services in Madison, Wisconsin. The content of the current page seems off-topic and these sections are large enough to make their own page. Thefactmanirud (talk) 22:54, 30 March 2019 (UTC)

Any thoughts?

Hi Thefactmanirud. The issues which may prevent this article from achieving GA status has (respectfully) less to do with its length and more to do with what is contributing to that length. Its content. Yes, perhaps the content on the police force could be split out, but the issue with the "geography" section is not the architecture content, but the "neighborhoods" content. Which is choc full of "real estate brochure" bumf and has next to no references to support the editorial and commentary on which are "bohemian" or "affluent" or similar. Personally I would focus on those areas before affording the section covering the fire department (a section with all of 3 sentences) its own article. Guliolopez (talk) 20:01, 17 April 2019 (UTC)

GA Review

This review is transcluded from Talk:Madison, Wisconsin/GA2. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Reviewer: AmericanAir88 (talk · contribs) 21:48, 9 September 2019 (UTC)

I will be taking on the review for this city. It seems that there are an alarming amount of issues present such as citation needed tags. Unfortunately, there is plenty of unsourced and choppy areas of the article. As a result of the citation issues and structure of the article, I am closing the review as a Immediate ✗ Fail. Feel free to nominate this in the future, but honestly, this was a very premature nomination. Please read the GA criteria before nominating. The citation issues and tags should be an indication that the article is not ready for promotion. Thank you. AmericanAir88^(talk) 22:00, 9 September 2019 (UTC)

Major issues

• Several [citation needed] tags.
• Copy violation Please see This

Unsourced areas

• Last sentence of "creation" needs a citation
• Second paragraph of "Expansion" needs citations
• "1960s and 1970s" needs a bunch of more citations
• First and last paragraph of "geography" needs citations
• "Neighborhoods" needs more citations
• "Architecture" needs a ton of more citations.
• "Major commercial areas" is almost entirely unsourced.
• "Climate" needs an additional source
• Intro to "Demographics" needs a source
• "Religion" needs a ton of sourcing
• "Economy" needs sourcing
• "Performing arts" needs sourcing
• "Last paragraph of "Politics" needs sourcing
• "Sports", "former teams", and "Amateur sports" needs sourcing
• The intro to "Government" needs sources.
• "Print" needs sourcing
• "Radio" needs sourcing
• "TV" needs sourcing
• Second paragraph of "railways" needs sourcing
• "Highways" has no citations

Issues

• Dates need to be organized into just mdy
• "21st century" needs expansion
• "Points of interest" is literally a list with no sourcing or explanation
• "2010 census" should reuse the census source that is presented at the beginning
• "Nightlife" is highly promotional
• Bare urls
• Caps in the references

City Nomenclature

The city was named after James Madison, as described in the intro paragraph, but the important historic truth of Madison’s identity is intentionally obfuscated and hidden by those trying to perpetuate the white supremacist narrative of American history here. James Madison was a Virgins plantation owner and the owner of over 100 enslaved people. The fact that he served as American President and as coauthor of the Constitution, should not diminish his role in perpetuating slavery in the United States, both as owner of enslaved people and as author of the 3/5ths Compromise, which stated that an enslaved African person properly and was only valued at 3/5ths of the value of a white resident.

The identity of James Madison, of whom the city of Madison was named for, should be described fairly and accurately as “president, founding father and slave owner”.