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== Edits re: History of Tamil Language == |
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Hi editors please mention palm scripts used for thousands of years to publish Tamil materials, even before the arrival of Portuguese and the still surviving printing industry! |
Hi editors please mention palm scripts used for thousands of years to publish Tamil materials, even before the arrival of Portuguese and the still surviving printing industry! |
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In your text, please include that Tamil is more ancient (cave writings appeared 2500 BC) than Sanskrit (appeared 2000 BC) <ref> https://taleninstituut.nl/what-are-the-oldest-languages-on-earth/</ref> and that Sanskrit influence over Tamil was only a relevant issue following the encroachment of Tamil/Dravidian land by Aryans who established the caste system and forced indigenous Tamils/Dravidians to the South of their land. The Aryan-established caste system and anti-Dravidian policies were part and parcel with Sanskritization of traditional Dravidian traditions, culture (folk gods being one example), and languages <ref>AN ANALYTICAL STUDY ON SANSKRITISATION OF THE DEITIES OF FOLK TRADITION WITH REFERENCE TO TAMIL NADU, S. Xavier, Proceedings of the Indian History Congress Proceedings of the Indian History Congress Vol. 70 (2009-2010), pp. 621-634 (14 pages)</ref>. |
In your text, please include that Tamil is more ancient (cave writings appeared 2500 BC) than Sanskrit (appeared 2000 BC) <ref> https://taleninstituut.nl/what-are-the-oldest-languages-on-earth/</ref> and that Sanskrit influence over Tamil was only a relevant issue following the encroachment of Tamil/Dravidian land by Aryans who established the caste system and forced indigenous Tamils/Dravidians to the South of their land. The Aryan-established caste system and anti-Dravidian policies were part and parcel with Sanskritization of traditional Dravidian traditions, culture (folk gods being one example), and languages <ref>AN ANALYTICAL STUDY ON SANSKRITISATION OF THE DEITIES OF FOLK TRADITION WITH REFERENCE TO TAMIL NADU, S. Xavier, Proceedings of the Indian History Congress Proceedings of the Indian History Congress Vol. 70 (2009-2010), pp. 621-634 (14 pages)</ref>. |
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::The website you cited is not a Reliable Source as defined by Wikipedia. Other parts of this article are well-sourced - you'll need RS's that specifically refute them. No credible linguists are of the opinion that Tamil is as old as 2000 B.C.[[Special:Contributions/50.111.57.134|50.111.57.134]] ([[User talk:50.111.57.134|talk]]) 13:26, 31 May 2021 (UTC) |
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Edits re: History of Tamil Language
Hi editors please mention palm scripts used for thousands of years to publish Tamil materials, even before the arrival of Portuguese and the still surviving printing industry!
In your text, please include that Tamil is more ancient (cave writings appeared 2500 BC) than Sanskrit (appeared 2000 BC) [1] and that Sanskrit influence over Tamil was only a relevant issue following the encroachment of Tamil/Dravidian land by Aryans who established the caste system and forced indigenous Tamils/Dravidians to the South of their land. The Aryan-established caste system and anti-Dravidian policies were part and parcel with Sanskritization of traditional Dravidian traditions, culture (folk gods being one example), and languages [2].
I believe you mentioned Sanskritization in the article but don't actually elaborate on what that is -- I think it would be good to provide just one sentence summarizing it, since you seem to hinge quite a bit of the article on how Tamil was influenced by Sanskrit.
Furthermore, it might be advisable to delete the comparisons between Tamil and Sanskrit -- I notice you seem to keep relating Tamil to Sanskrit which seems to overemphasize the importance of Sanskrit to Tamil language -- after all, the wiki is focusing on Tamil language exclusively and not "Tamil vs. Sanskrit".
Hungrycitrus (talk) 02:48, 12 March 2021 (UTC)
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- ^ https://taleninstituut.nl/what-are-the-oldest-languages-on-earth/
- ^ AN ANALYTICAL STUDY ON SANSKRITISATION OF THE DEITIES OF FOLK TRADITION WITH REFERENCE TO TAMIL NADU, S. Xavier, Proceedings of the Indian History Congress Proceedings of the Indian History Congress Vol. 70 (2009-2010), pp. 621-634 (14 pages)
- The website you cited is not a Reliable Source as defined by Wikipedia. Other parts of this article are well-sourced - you'll need RS's that specifically refute them. No credible linguists are of the opinion that Tamil is as old as 2000 B.C.50.111.57.134 (talk) 13:26, 31 May 2021 (UTC)
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Tamil is not Dravidian language. Dravidian is meaningless. When State are in India seperate with their language at that time Dravidian word is become meaningless. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 27.62.130.74 (talk • contribs)
- Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. Melmann 10:14, 25 May 2021 (UTC)
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