User talk:A.A Prinon

Archives (Index) header 2021/February 2021/March 2021/April 2021/May 2021/June 2021/July 2021/August 2021/September This page is archived by ClueBot III. July 2021 You have been blocked indefinitely from editing for contravening Wikipedia's harassment policy. If you think there are good reasons for being unblocked, please read the guide to appealing blocks, then add the following text below the block notice on your talk page: {{unblock|reason=Your reason here ~~~~}}.  Sasquatch t|c 18:04, 11 July 2021 (UTC) Template:Z8 To be clear, I have carefully reviewed your edits and it appears you are doing the what Girth Summit warned you about not doing. By no means am I saying Lugnuts acted perfectly, but the unblock was conditioned on the premise that you understood what you were being told but it does not appear you entirely do. After looking at the interaction timelines and your past behavior, it appears you are primarily the one being disruptive here. Sasquatch t|c 18:07, 11 July 2021 (UTC) Sasquatch, This time I had not harassed any editor or made any personal attacks. I was not really stalking. But yes the interaction may give the impression that I was stalking. From the next time, I will be careful if Lugnuts has edited any page recently or not. I will be more careful from the next time. Please give me a last chance. From the next time I will not make such a edit that gives the impression of stalking. Please give me the last chance. thanks — A.A Prinon  Leave a dialogue 02:14, 12 July 2021 (UTC) Actually, I am also a human. Lugnuts just provided a few diffs and those few diffs just makes you believe that I am stalking. So, it was also difficult me to ensure that I would be accused of stalking if edited those pages. But next time I will be more careful. In this one week just my few edits are overlaps. From the next time I will also try to avoid overlaps. And this time I also hadn't made any personal attacks. So, please unblock me. — A.A Prinon  Leave a dialogue 02:18, 12 July 2021 (UTC) I would also like to oppose some of the diffs. I edited here because the player recently appeared in the one-off Test match against Bangladesh. He made his debut in the match and scored 87 runs, which was the highest score by a Zimbabwean opener on Test debut, but it wasn't mentioned in the article. So, I included something more as it was a significant record. And here I edited because Mahmudullah recently announced his retirement from Test cricket. So, anyone can edit it to correct a mistake it doesn't mean that I was stalking. And before Lugnuts edited the page Shadman Islam, I had edited the page. As I have told earlier, I save page into watchlist after editing, so I got notified when Lugnuts had edited the page. I completely oppose this edit. Anuradha Doddaballapur got his call-up for the recently concluded series France women's cricket team in Germany in 2021. And she was the highest wicket-taker and the player of the series. But, it wasn't described in the article, so I edited that article. I didn't even know that this article was recently edited by Lugnuts. Apart from this, WP:HOUNDING clearly states, This is with an apparent aim of creating irritation, annoyance, or distress to the other editor. Hounding usually involves following the target from place to place on Wikipedia. But I haven't caused them any annoyance or distress, so how can it be harassment? Ok, I will also stop saving pages into watchlist for 1 week, as there is accusations on stalking. I will notice if it was recently edited by Lugnuts or not. It is obvious that I was really not stalking after being unblocked. But this time I will try my best to avoid those acts which gives the impression of stalking. — A.A Prinon  Leave a dialogue 02:59, 12 July 2021 (UTC) Re, your email, I have no intention on unblocking based on what I saw in your interactions after you were unblocked. Sasquatch t|c 20:32, 21 July 2021 (UTC) @Sasquatch: Have you even read my full message before giving this absurd reply. I would like to remind again- This is not like that I have shown a sudden interest in editing the given pages after Lugnuts edited those. I have been making such types of edits for a long time. Let me show some related edits without any close interactions with Lugnuts in the recent past. See Special:Diff/1032869756, here also I have edited the page after the player had scored a century based on the recent match report. Other examples include- See this diff, this, this, this, this, this, this and this diff. All these edits were about updating players' recent match performance (such as scored a century or took 5 wickets) or call-ups to the national team in different tournaments. And the pages had not been edited by Lugnuts (recently) before I edited. So, you have to believe that I have been making these type of edits for a long time. Thus, how can it be hounding? I have not followed their edits around and found pages to edit, rather I was always making these types of edits. And regarding retirements or coaching, I have also always been updating BLP articles, who have been appointed as the coach of the team or have announced retirement, as you can see the full list here and here. Also, you are still ignoring the fact that you are a bit WP:INVOLVED. Why are you not willing to discuss the matter. — A.A Prinon  Leave a dialogue 05:53, 23 July 2021 (UTC) @Sasquatch: Why aren't you replying? As I have told earlier, I have always been editing these type of articles. Unblock me, and open a discussion on the appropriate noticeboard involving cricket members. I am confident in that case, but I am not going to comply with your own personal thoughts. — A.A Prinon  Leave a dialogue 09:17, 26 July 2021 (UTC) How am I involved? Either way, I have made my position clear. Please follow the instructions on the block template to request an unblock. Sasquatch t|c 19:46, 26 July 2021 (UTC) @Sasquatch: You have said that you made your position clear, while the opposite one is also correct- You have not made your position clear. You told earlier that you had had nothing to do about this from your perspective. While, suddenly you changed your mind and started to believe in Lugnuts' words along with being confused. The diffs that Lugnuts linked here, were all edited by me independently, as I have already told you above and via email. However, you always seem to ignore those. I have obviously not used Lugnuts' contributions to edit pages. I actually fail to adhere to if you really understand what WP:HOUND is. This needs third opinion or consensus, which you are not willing to seek. — A.A Prinon  Leave a dialogue 06:26, 29 July 2021 (UTC) In response to my 4000 active edits, I didn't expect such kind of treatment towards me. In other words, this is exactly not a way to treat a user who has volunteered hundreds of hours of their life in making useful and positive contributions. The suggestion that Sasquatch was in any way INVOLVED is bogus - he interacted with you purely in an administrative capacity. He's already told you to request unblock if you want a review - you still have access to this talk page to allow you to do that. Please take this as a warning: if you keep using this page to remonstrate with the blocking admin that access will be withdrawn. There is no need to reply to me - make your next edit to this page an unblock request, which will be reviewed in due course by someone new. Girth Summit (blether) 07:06, 29 July 2021 (UTC) Unblock request This user is asking that his block be reviewed: A.A Prinon (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log)) Request reason: Alright, I'll try to address these comments here, since clearly nobody is reading what I've already written about this elsewhere. First, @Lugnuts: Look, I very clearly know the reason why you seldom get frustrated or feel harassed. The thing is- you find it disconcerting to have me show up hours or days after you make an edit, right? But if you think a little or ignore these, it's not a big issue at all. I just make a few edits (30-50 or at best 80) per day, while I don't think that you just stick to a very few edits per day. I have reviewed the diffs you linked at User talk:Sasquatch#Lugnuts. On 10 July 2021, I had total 2 interactions with you, one this and the other this. In the very next day (11 July), I had had the same number of interactions (2) with you. The clincher for me is, when I make about 50 edits per day, I only have 2 interactions with you, then how you can believe that it is hounding? If I was following your edits, I would always keep my eye on those and edit according to your contributions, while I am not doing this. I guess you make a lot of edits in a single day, hence can you explain to me the reason for feeling harassed with just 2 interactions with me in a day? Actually, if we keep fighting with each other and keep accusing, then we will never be able to improve the encyclopedia, rather we would all be dead by then. We both work in the same project (cricket) and our goals are also the same- improving the cricket articles. Hence, in my book, interactions and overlaps are very normal or simple, if you are being positive. But if you are always thinking negatively, it will neither help you nor the Wikipedia, rather it will act as a barrier in improving WP, particularly cricket articles. I will suggest you to forget all hostilities with me and collaboratively edit with me, will you? It is actually very easy and also helpful. Tell me one thing- do you only face interactions with me, don't you see overlaps with other editors. I guess yes, but you don't feel harassed when you are interacting with them, but you are feeling annoyed when interacting with me, and the main reason for that is we keep fighting with each other. In other words, lets stop fighting and starting disputes among ourselves, rather let us work here collaboratively. I believe it will help both of us as well as help in reducing annoyance and distress. Trust me, I had zero intentions in causing you annoyance, as I appreciate your work here. Yes, my contributions may not be as helpful as yours are, but I believe I have done some good or productive work for the project. Example, recently on 31st July, one of my articles got promoted to featured list (!), sadly I can't celebrate it anyway because of being blocked. The previous incident I had with you on 1 July 2021 was not acceptable, I agree. Actually, as you were reverting my good edits in some articles, I felt anger and so made this and this edit summaries. Agree I should not have done it, but since then I was unblocked, I largely changed my nature or tendency. My contribs clears it all, on 1 July I had many interactions with you and were reverting your edits. However, it wasn't as same as after being unblocked, I have made only 2 overlaps with you. I am really sorry, if I have caused you very much distress or if it was preventing you from working here. But, I think we should draw a line under this and make progress forward. As I have said already elsewhere, I had been always making such type of edits (which are cited at Sasquatch talk). That includes- updates based on match reports, infobox stats update or anything else. I have already cited those above, hope it helps. Thank you and please Lugnuts reply here — A.A Prinon  Leave a dialogue 06:47, 3 August 2021 (UTC) Notes: In some cases, you may not in fact be blocked, or your block has already expired. Please check the list of active blocks. If no block is listed, then you have been autoblocked by the automated anti-vandalism systems. Please remove this request and follow these instructions instead for quick attention by an administrator. Please read our guide to appealing blocks to make sure that your unblock request will help your case. You may change your request at any time. Administrator use only: If you ask the blocking administrator to comment on this request, replace this template with the following, replacing "blocking administrator" with the name of the blocking admin: {{Unblock on hold |1=blocking administrator |2=Alright, I'll try to address these comments here, since clearly nobody is reading what I've already written about this elsewhere. First, <span class="template-ping">@[[User:Lugnuts|Lugnuts]]:</span> Look, I very clearly know the reason why you seldom get frustrated or feel harassed. The thing is- you find it disconcerting to have me show up hours or days after you make an edit, right? But if you think a little or ignore these, it's not a big issue at all. I just make a few edits (30-50 or at best 80) per day, while I don't think that you just stick to a very few edits per day. I have reviewed the diffs you linked at [[User talk:Sasquatch#Lugnuts]]. On 10 July 2021, I had total 2 interactions with you, one [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Takudzwanashe_Kaitano&type=revision&diff=1032866461&oldid=1032802019&diffmode=source this] and the other [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Mahmudullah&type=revision&diff=1032889506&oldid=1032889077&diffmode=source this]. In the very next day (11 July), I had had the same number of interactions (2) with you. The clincher for me is, when I make about 50 edits per day, I only have 2 interactions with you, then how you can believe that it is [[WP:HOUND|hounding]]? If I was following your edits, I would always keep my eye on those and edit according to your contributions, while I am not doing this. I guess you make a lot of edits in a single day, hence can you explain to me the reason for feeling harassed with just 2 interactions with me in a day? Actually, if we keep fighting with each other and keep accusing, then we will '''never''' be able to improve the encyclopedia, rather we would all be dead by then. We both work in the same project (cricket) and our goals are also the same- improving the cricket articles. Hence, in my book, interactions and overlaps are very normal or simple, if you [[WP:AGF|are being positive]]. But if you are always thinking negatively, it will neither help you nor the Wikipedia, rather it will act as a barrier in improving WP, particularly cricket articles. I will suggest you to forget all hostilities with me and collaboratively edit with me, will you? It is actually very easy and also helpful. Tell me one thing- do you only face interactions with me, don't you see overlaps with other editors. I guess yes, but you don't feel harassed when you are interacting with them, but you are feeling annoyed when interacting with me, and the main reason for that is we keep fighting with each other. In other words, lets stop fighting and starting disputes among ourselves, rather let us work here collaboratively. I believe it will help both of us as well as help in reducing annoyance and distress. Trust me, I had zero intentions in causing you annoyance, as I appreciate your work here. Yes, my contributions may not be as helpful as yours are, but I believe I have done some good or productive work for the project. Example, recently on 31st July, [[List of international cricket centuries at the Sher-e-Bangla National Cricket Stadium|one of my articles]] got promoted to featured list (!), sadly I can't celebrate it anyway because of being blocked. The previous incident I had with you on 1 July 2021 was not acceptable, I agree. Actually, as you were reverting my good edits in some articles, I felt anger and so made [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Pakistan_women%27s_cricket_team_in_the_West_Indies_in_2021&type=revision&diff=1031600786&oldid=1031599162&diffmode=source this] and [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Erasmo_Vera&type=revision&diff=1031602429&oldid=1031598010&diffmode=source this] edit summaries. Agree I should not have done it, but since then I was unblocked, I largely changed my nature or tendency. My contribs clears it all, on 1 July I had many interactions with you and were reverting your edits. However, it wasn't as same as after being unblocked, I have made only 2 overlaps with you. I am really sorry, if I have caused you very much distress or if it was preventing you from working here. But, I think we should draw a line under this and make progress forward. As I have said already elsewhere, I had been always making such type of edits (which are cited at Sasquatch talk). That includes- updates based on match reports, infobox stats update or anything else. I have already cited those above, hope it helps. Thank you and please Lugnuts reply here <span style="white-space:nowrap;">—[[User:A.A Prinon|<span style="background:#0000CD;color:gold;"><b> A.A Prinon </b></span>]] <sup>[[User talk:A.A Prinon|<span style="color:#006400">'''Leave a dialogue'''</span>]]</sup></span> 06:47, 3 August 2021 (UTC) |3 = ~~~~}} If you decline the unblock request, replace this template with the following code, substituting {{subst:Decline reason here}} with a specific rationale. Leaving the decline reason unchanged will result in display of a default reason, explaining why the request was declined. {{unblock reviewed |1=Alright, I'll try to address these comments here, since clearly nobody is reading what I've already written about this elsewhere. First, <span class="template-ping">@[[User:Lugnuts|Lugnuts]]:</span> Look, I very clearly know the reason why you seldom get frustrated or feel harassed. The thing is- you find it disconcerting to have me show up hours or days after you make an edit, right? But if you think a little or ignore these, it's not a big issue at all. I just make a few edits (30-50 or at best 80) per day, while I don't think that you just stick to a very few edits per day. I have reviewed the diffs you linked at [[User talk:Sasquatch#Lugnuts]]. On 10 July 2021, I had total 2 interactions with you, one [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Takudzwanashe_Kaitano&type=revision&diff=1032866461&oldid=1032802019&diffmode=source this] and the other [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Mahmudullah&type=revision&diff=1032889506&oldid=1032889077&diffmode=source this]. In the very next day (11 July), I had had the same number of interactions (2) with you. The clincher for me is, when I make about 50 edits per day, I only have 2 interactions with you, then how you can believe that it is [[WP:HOUND|hounding]]? If I was following your edits, I would always keep my eye on those and edit according to your contributions, while I am not doing this. I guess you make a lot of edits in a single day, hence can you explain to me the reason for feeling harassed with just 2 interactions with me in a day? Actually, if we keep fighting with each other and keep accusing, then we will '''never''' be able to improve the encyclopedia, rather we would all be dead by then. We both work in the same project (cricket) and our goals are also the same- improving the cricket articles. Hence, in my book, interactions and overlaps are very normal or simple, if you [[WP:AGF|are being positive]]. But if you are always thinking negatively, it will neither help you nor the Wikipedia, rather it will act as a barrier in improving WP, particularly cricket articles. I will suggest you to forget all hostilities with me and collaboratively edit with me, will you? It is actually very easy and also helpful. Tell me one thing- do you only face interactions with me, don't you see overlaps with other editors. I guess yes, but you don't feel harassed when you are interacting with them, but you are feeling annoyed when interacting with me, and the main reason for that is we keep fighting with each other. In other words, lets stop fighting and starting disputes among ourselves, rather let us work here collaboratively. I believe it will help both of us as well as help in reducing annoyance and distress. Trust me, I had zero intentions in causing you annoyance, as I appreciate your work here. Yes, my contributions may not be as helpful as yours are, but I believe I have done some good or productive work for the project. Example, recently on 31st July, [[List of international cricket centuries at the Sher-e-Bangla National Cricket Stadium|one of my articles]] got promoted to featured list (!), sadly I can't celebrate it anyway because of being blocked. The previous incident I had with you on 1 July 2021 was not acceptable, I agree. Actually, as you were reverting my good edits in some articles, I felt anger and so made [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Pakistan_women%27s_cricket_team_in_the_West_Indies_in_2021&type=revision&diff=1031600786&oldid=1031599162&diffmode=source this] and [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Erasmo_Vera&type=revision&diff=1031602429&oldid=1031598010&diffmode=source this] edit summaries. Agree I should not have done it, but since then I was unblocked, I largely changed my nature or tendency. My contribs clears it all, on 1 July I had many interactions with you and were reverting your edits. However, it wasn't as same as after being unblocked, I have made only 2 overlaps with you. I am really sorry, if I have caused you very much distress or if it was preventing you from working here. But, I think we should draw a line under this and make progress forward. As I have said already elsewhere, I had been always making such type of edits (which are cited at Sasquatch talk). That includes- updates based on match reports, infobox stats update or anything else. I have already cited those above, hope it helps. Thank you and please Lugnuts reply here <span style="white-space:nowrap;">—[[User:A.A Prinon|<span style="background:#0000CD;color:gold;"><b> A.A Prinon </b></span>]] <sup>[[User talk:A.A Prinon|<span style="color:#006400">'''Leave a dialogue'''</span>]]</sup></span> 06:47, 3 August 2021 (UTC) |decline = {{subst:Decline reason here}} ~~~~}} If you accept the unblock request, replace this template with the following, substituting Accept reason here with your rationale: {{unblock reviewed |1=Alright, I'll try to address these comments here, since clearly nobody is reading what I've already written about this elsewhere. First, <span class="template-ping">@[[User:Lugnuts|Lugnuts]]:</span> Look, I very clearly know the reason why you seldom get frustrated or feel harassed. The thing is- you find it disconcerting to have me show up hours or days after you make an edit, right? But if you think a little or ignore these, it's not a big issue at all. I just make a few edits (30-50 or at best 80) per day, while I don't think that you just stick to a very few edits per day. I have reviewed the diffs you linked at [[User talk:Sasquatch#Lugnuts]]. On 10 July 2021, I had total 2 interactions with you, one [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Takudzwanashe_Kaitano&type=revision&diff=1032866461&oldid=1032802019&diffmode=source this] and the other [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Mahmudullah&type=revision&diff=1032889506&oldid=1032889077&diffmode=source this]. In the very next day (11 July), I had had the same number of interactions (2) with you. The clincher for me is, when I make about 50 edits per day, I only have 2 interactions with you, then how you can believe that it is [[WP:HOUND|hounding]]? If I was following your edits, I would always keep my eye on those and edit according to your contributions, while I am not doing this. I guess you make a lot of edits in a single day, hence can you explain to me the reason for feeling harassed with just 2 interactions with me in a day? Actually, if we keep fighting with each other and keep accusing, then we will '''never''' be able to improve the encyclopedia, rather we would all be dead by then. We both work in the same project (cricket) and our goals are also the same- improving the cricket articles. Hence, in my book, interactions and overlaps are very normal or simple, if you [[WP:AGF|are being positive]]. But if you are always thinking negatively, it will neither help you nor the Wikipedia, rather it will act as a barrier in improving WP, particularly cricket articles. I will suggest you to forget all hostilities with me and collaboratively edit with me, will you? It is actually very easy and also helpful. Tell me one thing- do you only face interactions with me, don't you see overlaps with other editors. I guess yes, but you don't feel harassed when you are interacting with them, but you are feeling annoyed when interacting with me, and the main reason for that is we keep fighting with each other. In other words, lets stop fighting and starting disputes among ourselves, rather let us work here collaboratively. I believe it will help both of us as well as help in reducing annoyance and distress. Trust me, I had zero intentions in causing you annoyance, as I appreciate your work here. Yes, my contributions may not be as helpful as yours are, but I believe I have done some good or productive work for the project. Example, recently on 31st July, [[List of international cricket centuries at the Sher-e-Bangla National Cricket Stadium|one of my articles]] got promoted to featured list (!), sadly I can't celebrate it anyway because of being blocked. The previous incident I had with you on 1 July 2021 was not acceptable, I agree. Actually, as you were reverting my good edits in some articles, I felt anger and so made [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Pakistan_women%27s_cricket_team_in_the_West_Indies_in_2021&type=revision&diff=1031600786&oldid=1031599162&diffmode=source this] and [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Erasmo_Vera&type=revision&diff=1031602429&oldid=1031598010&diffmode=source this] edit summaries. Agree I should not have done it, but since then I was unblocked, I largely changed my nature or tendency. My contribs clears it all, on 1 July I had many interactions with you and were reverting your edits. However, it wasn't as same as after being unblocked, I have made only 2 overlaps with you. I am really sorry, if I have caused you very much distress or if it was preventing you from working here. But, I think we should draw a line under this and make progress forward. As I have said already elsewhere, I had been always making such type of edits (which are cited at Sasquatch talk). That includes- updates based on match reports, infobox stats update or anything else. I have already cited those above, hope it helps. Thank you and please Lugnuts reply here <span style="white-space:nowrap;">—[[User:A.A Prinon|<span style="background:#0000CD;color:gold;"><b> A.A Prinon </b></span>]] <sup>[[User talk:A.A Prinon|<span style="color:#006400">'''Leave a dialogue'''</span>]]</sup></span> 06:47, 3 August 2021 (UTC) |accept = accept reason here ~~~~}} In addition, think a little. such as- If I hadn't made this edit, would people know about this significant record. Again if I didn't made this edit would general readers know about the information. Hence, I am always editing here for the betterment of WP, not to cause you distress particularly. — A.A Prinon  Leave a dialogue 06:50, 3 August 2021 (UTC) Thank you @আফতাবুজ্জামান: for appreciating my contributions on Wikipedia, by emailing me. You are perhaps the only person to do so. When I had 4 interactions in 4 days with a user, admins have blocked me claiming that I was hounding. This is completely biased accusation. Note: I have not even evaded my block by editing with another account in this meantime, which CheckUsers will able to verify using behavioural or technical data. — A.A Prinon  Leave a dialogue 05:40, 25 August 2021 (UTC) Speedy deletion nomination of Category:Scotland cricket navigational boxes A tag has been placed on Category:Scotland cricket navigational boxes indicating that it is currently empty, and is not a disambiguation category, a category redirect, a featured topics category, under discussion at Categories for discussion, or a project category that by its nature may become empty on occasion. If it remains empty for seven days or more, it may be deleted under section C1 of the criteria for speedy deletion. 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