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== September 2021 ==
== move the page draft to live ==


[[File:Information.svg|25px|alt=Information icon]] Hello, I'm [[User:JPxG|JPxG]]. I wanted to let you know that I reverted one of [[Special:Contributions/65.246.71.95|your recent contributions]]—specifically <span class="plainlinks">[https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Stripe-throated%20wren&diff=1045691898 this edit]</span> to [[:Stripe-throated wren]]—because it did not appear constructive. If you would like to experiment, please use the [[Wikipedia:Sandbox|sandbox]]. If you have any questions, you can ask for assistance at the [[Wikipedia:Help desk|Help desk]]. Thanks. <!-- Template:Huggle/warn-1 --><!-- Template:uw-vandalism1 -->'''[[User:JPxG|jp]]'''×'''[[User talk:JPxG|g]]''' 22:45, 21 September 2021 (UTC)
how to move the page draft to live&nbsp;[[User:Sarwagyaguruji|Sarwagyaguruji]] ([[User talk:Sarwagyaguruji|talk]]) 06:23, 18 September 2021 (UTC)
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: {{ping|Sarwagyaguruji}} I assume you're referring to [[Draft:Sarwagya Bhooshan]]. You currently have zero sources, making it unsuitable to be moved into the mainspace as a live article. Please read [[Wp:YFA]] and add in [[WP:RS|reliable sources]] to back up your claims. [[User:Ganbaruby|<span style="color:#960596">◢</span> <b><i style="background-color:#F7E3F7; color:#960596"> Ganbaruby! </i></b>]] <small>([[User talk:Ganbaruby|talk]])</small> 07:12, 18 September 2021 (UTC)
::I have added a "submit for review" button to the draft, but don't bother submitting it until you have cited sources that demonstrate notability of the topic. See [[Wikipedia:Golden rule]] to get an idea of what is required. If you submit it now, you'll just waste a reviewer's time and it would be declined. ~[[User:Anachronist|Anachronist]] <small>([[User talk:Anachronist|talk]])</small> 07:17, 18 September 2021 (UTC)
::: I see that the OP has ignored your advice and this morning has 3 times tried to move the draft to mainspace. The first two attempts were moved back to draft space to incubate, but the third time resulted in deletion. Why do people come here to ask questions and then ignore the answers? --[[User:David Biddulph|David Biddulph]] ([[User talk:David Biddulph|talk]]) 08:31, 19 September 2021 (UTC)


<div style="clear: both"></div>[[File:Information orange.svg|25px|alt=Information icon]] Please refrain from making unconstructive edits to Wikipedia, as you did with <span class="plainlinks">[https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Edinho%20%28footballer%2C%20born%201979%29&diff=1045692383 this edit]</span> to [[:Edinho (footballer, born 1979)]]. Your edits appear to be [[Wikipedia:Vandalism|vandalism]] and have been [[Help:Reverting|reverted]] or removed. If you would like to experiment, please use the [[Wikipedia:Sandbox|sandbox]]. Repeated vandalism can result in the [[Wikipedia:Blocking policy|loss of editing privileges]]. Thank you. <!-- Template:Huggle/warn-2 --><!-- Template:uw-vandalism2 -->'''[[User:JPxG|jp]]'''×'''[[User talk:JPxG|g]]''' 22:48, 21 September 2021 (UTC)
== Procedure for Disambig page after Merge? ==


<div style=clear: both></div>[[File:Nuvola apps important.svg|25px|alt=Warning icon]] Please stop your [[WP:Disruptive editing|disruptive editing]]. If you continue to [[WP:Vandalism|vandalize]] Wikipedia, as you did with <span class="plainlinks">[https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Samira%20Awad&diff=1045692705 this edit]</span> to [[:Samira Awad]], you may be [[WP:Blocking policy|blocked from editing]]. <!-- Template:Huggle/warn-3 --><!-- Template:uw-vandalism3 -->'''[[User:JPxG|jp]]'''×'''[[User talk:JPxG|g]]''' 22:50, 21 September 2021 (UTC)
I boldly merged [[Fish slice]] into [[Fishcake]] for being inadequately sourced and nothing coming up in a search. [[Fish slice]] was deemed the primary topic, and there is a [[Fish slice (kitchen utensil)]], which I think gets to have the main name? And that renders the [[Fish slice (disambiguation)]] moot, right?


<div style=clear: both></div>[[File:Stop hand nuvola.svg|30px]] You may be '''[[Wikipedia:Blocking policy|blocked from editing]] without further warning''' the next time you vandalize Wikipedia, as you did with <span class="plainlinks">[https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Samira%20Awad&diff=1045692705 this edit]</span> to [[:Samira Awad]].<!-- Template:Huggle/warn-4 --><!-- Template:uw-vandalism4 --> '''[[User:JPxG|jp]]'''×'''[[User talk:JPxG|g]]''' 22:50, 21 September 2021 (UTC)
Do I just made an AfD for the disambiguation page? Should the utensil page get a hatnote saying "for the dish called fish slice, see [[Fish cake]]" or is that lame because I've already deemed it non-notable? Is there a step I'm missing? I'm a bit tired and I don't quite know if there's a WP: term for this operation.


== How they know you're at Target ==
Thanks, [[User:Estheim|Estheim]] ([[User talk:Estheim|talk]]) 05:35, 19 September 2021 (UTC)&nbsp;[[User:Estheim|Estheim]] ([[User talk:Estheim|talk]]) 05:35, 19 September 2021 (UTC)
I'd assume it's because they are on the same wi-fi network as you, so you're both getting the notifications. What's probably going to happen is that the whole IP address for the store is blocked, because it's impossible to tell who on the network is acting silly and who is minding their own business. I know working retail sucks, but don't you fellas have anything better to do? '''[[User:JPxG|jp]]'''×'''[[User talk:JPxG|g]]''' 23:10, 21 September 2021 (UTC)
: {{ping|Estheim}} I think it was the right call to merge the two articles. To answer your question, [[Fish slice (kitchen utensil)]] should be moved to [[Fish slice]], as it's the only subject using that exact name. The utensil page should use a hatnote, as you said. [[Fish slice (disambiguation)]] should stay as is.<p>{{strikethrough|But actually, my American brain thinks [[Fish slice (kitchen utensil)]] should be merged into [[Spatula]], unless there's some difference that I'm not getting. In that case, [[Fish slice]] should redirect to [[Spatula]] because that's the more common usage in English, and a hatnote with {{tl|redirect}} should be at [[Spatula]].}} [[User:Ganbaruby|<span style="color:#960596">◢</span> <b><i style="background-color:#F7E3F7; color:#960596"> Ganbaruby! </i></b>]] <small>([[User talk:Ganbaruby|talk]])</small> 07:09, 19 September 2021 (UTC)
:because i work at target
:: Found some past discussions coming to no consensus for merge, so striking that out. [[User:Ganbaruby|<span style="color:#960596">◢</span> <b><i style="background-color:#F7E3F7; color:#960596"> Ganbaruby! </i></b>]] <small>([[User talk:Ganbaruby|talk]])</small> 07:35, 19 September 2021 (UTC)
::Okay, fair enough, but surely you could come up with funnier vandalism than the stuff you're putting out right now? '''[[User:JPxG|jp]]'''×'''[[User talk:JPxG|g]]''' 23:13, 21 September 2021 (UTC)
:::<small>Not only that but a spatula in the US is basically a tool for spreading frosting. The british Spatula is a pancake turner.</small> ― [[User:Blaze The Wolf|<b style="background:#0d1125;color:#51aeff;padding:1q;border-radius:5q">Blaze The Wolf</b>]][[User talk:Blaze The Wolf|<sup>Talk</sup>]]<sub title="Discord Username" style="position:relative;right:22q">Blaze Wolf#0001</sub> 15:18, 19 September 2021 (UTC)
::{{ping|Ganbaruby}} Does the [[Fish slice]] redirect need to be deleted before the utensil page can be moved to the new name? Or is that a history merge kind of deal since it had content? (I've added the hat note to the utensil, and also cleaned up the disambig so it offers an article on the food or the utensil.) [[User:Estheim|Estheim]] ([[User talk:Estheim|talk]]) 16:13, 19 September 2021 (UTC)
:::Although the last few are quite an improvement, I'd recommend you take a little longer and come up with better material. After all, you're getting paid to do this and I'm not. '''[[User:JPxG|jp]]'''×'''[[User talk:JPxG|g]]''' 23:19, 21 September 2021 (UTC)
and also watch whats gonna happen in the teahouse, keep refreshing until you finnaly see a huge change
::: {{ping|Estheim}} To my understanding, [[WP:HISTMERGE]] only really applies to fixing copy-and-paste moves. Instead, [[Fish slice]] should be deleted. Here's how: make sure all salvageable information from the old article is at [[Fishcake]] (which isn't much). Explain what you did at [[Talk:Fishcake]] (similar to what you did at [[Talk:Fish slice]]) for transparency. Then, file a request at [[Wikipedia:Requested moves]]. While I doubt someone will object, it's better to check with an admin familiar with complex moves, who will either move it for you or tell you why not. [[User:Ganbaruby|<span style="color:#960596">◢</span> <b><i style="background-color:#F7E3F7; color:#960596"> Ganbaruby! </i></b>]] <small>([[User talk:Ganbaruby|talk]])</small> 19:33, 19 September 2021 (UTC)
:Replacing the entirety of Teahouse with Windows 10 is not funny ''at all'' ― [[User:Blaze The Wolf|<b style="background:#0d1125;color:#51aeff;padding:1q;border-radius:5q">Blaze The Wolf</b>]][[User talk:Blaze The Wolf|<sup>Talk</sup>]]<sub title="Discord Username" style="position:relative;right:22q">Blaze Wolf#0001</sub> 23:27, 21 September 2021 (UTC)
:::: {{ping|Ganbaruby}} I have done so. Now it's a matter of waiting. Thanks for your help :) [[User:Estheim|Estheim]] ([[User talk:Estheim|talk]]) 01:35, 20 September 2021 (UTC)
ok what about windows 11

:No! What you are doing is vandalism! Not jokes. Wikipedia is not a place for dumb jokes like that. ― [[User:Blaze The Wolf|<b style="background:#0d1125;color:#51aeff;padding:1q;border-radius:5q">Blaze The Wolf</b>]][[User talk:Blaze The Wolf|<sup>Talk</sup>]]<sub title="Discord Username" style="position:relative;right:22q">Blaze Wolf#0001</sub> 23:28, 21 September 2021 (UTC)
== add empty wikisource author page on [[Leonora Speyer]]? ==
ok check teahouse its now windows 11

works of [[Leonora Speyer]] on [https://en.m.wikisource.org/wiki/Author:Leonora_Speyer wikisource] is empty. is it ok to add it on enwiki?&nbsp;[[User:Ashtamatrikas|<span style="background-color:#eeff1b">ashtamatrikas</span>]] ([[User talk:Ashtamatrikas|<span style="color:purple">talk</span>]] • [[Special:Contributions/Ashtamatrikas|contrib]] • [[Special:Log/Ashtamatrikas|actions]]) 06:01, 19 September 2021 (UTC)
:Stop what you are doing now. You are straight up vandalizing Wikipedia which is not funny. ― [[User:Blaze The Wolf|<b style="background:#0d1125;color:#51aeff;padding:1q;border-radius:5q">Blaze The Wolf</b>]][[User talk:Blaze The Wolf|<sup>Talk</sup>]]<sub title="Discord Username" style="position:relative;right:22q">Blaze Wolf#0001</sub> 23:30, 21 September 2021 (UTC)
what if i replaced teahouse to the south park article but i want south park to be north park

:'''HOW MANY TIMES DO I HAVE TO SAY THIS? NO!''' ― [[User:Blaze The Wolf|<b style="background:#0d1125;color:#51aeff;padding:1q;border-radius:5q">Blaze The Wolf</b>]][[User talk:Blaze The Wolf|<sup>Talk</sup>]]<sub title="Discord Username" style="position:relative;right:22q">Blaze Wolf#0001</sub> 23:32, 21 September 2021 (UTC)
:I don't understand your question. If you are asking "Is it OK to add works by Speyer (works that are in the public domain) to English-language Wikipedia?", then the answer is "No it isn't, because Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, not a text repository." -- [[User:Hoary|Hoary]] ([[User talk:Hoary|talk]]) 10:12, 19 September 2021 (UTC)
oh it looks you added as bold text and yelled at me, funny. also automated filter didnt let me change teahouse to south park
::{{ping|Hoary}} no, i meant to add template [[Template:Wikisource|Wikisource]] in last headline "External links". [[User:Ashtamatrikas|<span style="background-color:#eeff1b">— ashtamatrikas</span>]] ([[User talk:Ashtamatrikas|<span style="color:purple">talk</span>]] • [[Special:Contributions/Ashtamatrikas|contrib]] • [[Special:Log/Ashtamatrikas|actions]]) 12:27, 19 September 2021 (UTC)
:::Aha! Yes, now I understand. Normally, {{U|Ashtamatrikas}}, you'd be welcome to do this. You might use [[Template:Wikisource author]]. This says that Wikisource has material by the person. But as you pointed out, Wikisource ''doesn't'' have material by Speyer. The message would therefore be untrue, and the template would be unhelpful. So please don't add it. -- [[User:Hoary|Hoary]] ([[User talk:Hoary|talk]]) 12:45, 19 September 2021 (UTC)
::::{{u|Hoary}} yes, i was hesitant about adding empty link. hence requested an opinion here. also thank you for bringing to my attention about [[Template:Wikisource author]] (more appropriate here because she also a writer). [[User:Ashtamatrikas|<span style="background-color:#eeff1b">— ashtamatrikas</span>]] ([[User talk:Ashtamatrikas|<span style="color:purple">talk</span>]] • [[Special:Contributions/Ashtamatrikas|contrib]] • [[Special:Log/Ashtamatrikas|actions]]) 15:28, 19 September 2021 (UTC)

== Template: Pin Messages ==

hello i have a question about Archiving Suppressor Template

: we have two of them <nowiki>{{pin message}}</nowiki> and <nowiki>{{pin section}}</nowiki> i wonder if they work differently? or what's their main differences technically? Thanks&nbsp;[[User:Sakura emad|—— 🌸 Sakura emad 💖]] ([[User talk:Sakura emad|talk]]) 10:56, 19 September 2021 (UTC)

::( anybody knows about it? [[User:Sakura emad|—— 🌸 Sakura emad 💖]] ([[User talk:Sakura emad|talk]]) 12:53, 20 September 2021 (UTC)
:::Hi [[User:Sakura emad|Sakura emad]]. The documentation at [[Template:Pin message]] and [[Template:Pin section]] explains that the latter uses the former, and you should use the latter with {{tlxs|Pin section}}. This uses [[WP:SUBST|substitution]] to both place the former template and add the actual instruction to the archiving bot. [[Template:Pin message]] is only for human readers. [[User:PrimeHunter|PrimeHunter]] ([[User talk:PrimeHunter|talk]]) 13:45, 20 September 2021 (UTC)
::::Thank you very much [[User:Sakura emad|—— 🌸 Sakura emad 💖]] ([[User talk:Sakura emad|talk]]) 23:29, 20 September 2021 (UTC)

== The removing process of [[meta:User:Techyan|Techyan]]'s links ==
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== Would really appreciate your help setting up a merger discussion and getting the tags right. ==

I’m looking to set up a merger proposal for [[Greco-Buddhism]] and [[Gandharan Buddhism]] however I feel like I’ve messed up somehow. Could someone please help with the formatting. I’m looking to get the contents of Gandharan Buddhism added to Greco-Buddhism if that helps. Thank you.&nbsp;[[User:KashKarti|KashKarti]] ([[User talk:KashKarti|talk]]) 12:20, 19 September 2021 (UTC)

:{{ping|KashKarti}} Could you link me to the discussion you've started? While I can't cast my vote on the discussion (that would be [[WP:CANVASS|canvassing]]) I can help make sure you've set it up correctly. ― [[User:Blaze The Wolf|<b style="background:#0d1125;color:#51aeff;padding:1q;border-radius:5q">Blaze The Wolf</b>]][[User talk:Blaze The Wolf|<sup>Talk</sup>]]<sub title="Discord Username" style="position:relative;right:22q">Blaze Wolf#0001</sub> 14:59, 19 September 2021 (UTC)

::Thank you. I’ve started the discussion on the talk page of [[Greco-Buddhism]].[[User:KashKarti|KashKarti]] ([[User talk:KashKarti|talk]]) 15:01, 19 September 2021 (UTC)
:::{{ping|KashKarti}} You did pretty good. THe only thing you forgot was the link to the article you want to be merged into [[Greco-Buddhism]] and the {{[[Template:Merge to|Merge to]]}} template on the [[Gandharan Buddhism]] article. You also forgot your signature on the talk page of [[Greco-Buddhism]]. ― [[User:Blaze The Wolf|<b style="background:#0d1125;color:#51aeff;padding:1q;border-radius:5q">Blaze The Wolf</b>]][[User talk:Blaze The Wolf|<sup>Talk</sup>]]<sub title="Discord Username" style="position:relative;right:22q">Blaze Wolf#0001</sub> 15:16, 19 September 2021 (UTC)

== how integrate "Bibliography" on [[Floy Little Bartlett]] ==

there is already Bibliography headline. however [[Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Layout|Manual of Style/Layout]] says "avoid bibliography, confusable with reference citations". should i delete headline with citation or convert it to as an additional reference for the sentence "Doubleday published ''The Busy Book'' by Bartlett about activities that children can do to keep busy."&nbsp;[[User:Ashtamatrikas|<span style="background-color:#eeff1b">— ashtamatrikas</span>]] ([[User talk:Ashtamatrikas|<span style="color:purple">talk</span>]] • [[Special:Contributions/Ashtamatrikas|contrib]] • [[Special:Log/Ashtamatrikas|actions]]) 15:19, 19 September 2021 (UTC)
: {{ping|Ashtamatrikas}} The book is published by Bartlett, right? If so, use the word "Publications" for the header instead. [[User:Ganbaruby|<span style="color:#960596">◢</span> <b><i style="background-color:#F7E3F7; color:#960596"> Ganbaruby! </i></b>]] <small>([[User talk:Ganbaruby|talk]])</small> 02:25, 20 September 2021 (UTC)
::{{u|Ganbaruby}} there is publications headline existing on article. so, dilemma. [[User:Ashtamatrikas|<span style="background-color:#eeff1b">— ashtamatrikas</span>]] ([[User talk:Ashtamatrikas|<span style="color:purple">talk</span>]] • [[Special:Contributions/Ashtamatrikas|contrib]] • [[Special:Log/Ashtamatrikas|actions]]) 03:57, 20 September 2021 (UTC)
::: {{ping|Ashtamatrikas}} Ooh, didn't notice that. Dilema indeed. It's not that big of an issue IMO, so I'd just leave it. [[User:Ganbaruby|<span style="color:#960596">◢</span> <b><i style="background-color:#F7E3F7; color:#960596"> Ganbaruby! </i></b>]] <small>([[User talk:Ganbaruby|talk]])</small> 04:37, 20 September 2021 (UTC)

== Local News Coverage ==

Does local news coverage contribute to notability?&nbsp;[[User:TipsyElephant|TipsyElephant]] ([[User talk:TipsyElephant|talk]]) 15:41, 19 September 2021 (UTC)
:{{u|TipsyElephant}} Hello and welcome to the Teahouse. Notability is demonstrated by significant coverage in independent [[WP:RS|reliable sources]]. Local ones are not necessarily a problem in and of themselves, but depending on the subject matter local coverage, if that's all there is, might suggest a lack of notability. It's hard to say without knowing the subject at issue. [[User:331dot|331dot]] ([[User talk:331dot|talk]]) 16:00, 19 September 2021 (UTC)
::Here is an example that may be helpful. The [[WP:NPOL|notability guideline for politicians]] says that there is a strong consensus that state and provincial legislators are presumed notable. So, coverage in local news outlets of such a politician is fine to build an article. On the other hand, a run of the mill local pizza parlor may have received routine reviews in a few local news outlets. Few editors would agree that the pizzeria is notable. Context matters. [[User:Cullen328|<b style="color:#070">Cullen</b><sup style="color:#707">328</sup>]] [[User talk:Cullen328|<span style="color:#00F">''Let's discuss it''</span>]] 17:31, 19 September 2021 (UTC)
:::{{re|331dot|Cullen328}} I'm specifically wondering about an article I had restored called [[Draft:Geekshow Podcast]]. I originally had it restored because it looked like there was plenty of news coverage of the show, but now that I've spent some time on it I've realized that pretty much every news source is local. [[User:TipsyElephant|TipsyElephant]] ([[User talk:TipsyElephant|talk]]) 19:33, 19 September 2021 (UTC)

== Creating an article ==

Can I please ask, how can I create an article here in Wikipedia?<!-- Template:Unsigned --><span class="autosigned" style="font-size:85%;">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Njenjesi Chulumanco|Njenjesi Chulumanco]] ([[User talk:Njenjesi Chulumanco#top|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Njenjesi Chulumanco|contribs]]) </span>
:{{re|Njenjesi Chulumanco}} Hello and welcome to the Teahouse. See [[WP:YFA|Your first article]] for guidance. However, please be aware that sucessfully creating a new article is harder than it looks. [[User:Victor Schmidt|Victor Schmidt]] ([[User talk:Victor Schmidt|talk]]) 17:15, 19 September 2021 (UTC)

@ Victor Schmidt: thanks <!-- Template:Unsigned --><span class="autosigned" style="font-size:85%;">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Njenjesi Chulumanco|Njenjesi Chulumanco]] ([[User talk:Njenjesi Chulumanco#top|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Njenjesi Chulumanco|contribs]]) </span>

:Hello, {{U|Njenjesi Chulumanco}}: welcome to the Teahouse, and to Wikipedia. I'm afraid that your question (which is one we get often at this page) is a bit like "How can I build a house?" The best answer to that is "First, spend a few years learning the trade of house-building". A Wikipedia article isn't quite as big and complicated as a house, so I would say months rather than years; but experience shows that people who come here and start trying to create an article before they have learnt quite a lot about how Wikipedia works usually have a frustrating and disappointing time, I strongly suggest that you put that idea aside for a few months, while you work on improving some of our existing six million articles (most of them could be improved) and learning how the huge monster that is Wikipedia actually works. <small>By the way, your putting a '@' before Victor's name isn't enough for him to get notified that you have replied. You need to use a template such as {{tl|u}} or {{tl|ping}} (I have started this reply with <nowiki>{{U|Njenjesi Chulumanco}}</nowiki> to notify you); ''and'' to sign your messgae with four tildes ('<nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>') to get the software to notify somebody.</small> --[[User:ColinFine|ColinFine]] ([[User talk:ColinFine|talk]]) 17:59, 19 September 2021 (UTC)

{{re|Colin Fine}}: Thanks again mam. Really helpful🙏🙏🙏. <!-- Template:Unsigned --><span class="autosigned" style="font-size:85%;">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Njenjesi Chulumanco|Njenjesi Chulumanco]] ([[User talk:Njenjesi Chulumanco#top|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Njenjesi Chulumanco|contribs]]) </span>

== What are considered reliable sources adequate enough to create a wiki article? ==

Hello! I have an article about an author/playwright. All the information in the article comes from the man himself. There are no sources I can cite or give credit to. It is under my understanding that you need sources in order to publish a Wiki article. What type of sources are deemed acceptable. Is there a loophole around this holdback seeing as the information comes from the source himself?&nbsp;[[User:Robert Eddison|Robert Eddison]] ([[User talk:Robert Eddison|talk]]) 16:37, 19 September 2021 (UTC)
:{{re|Robert Eddison}} Hello and welcome to the Teahouse. See [[WP:RS|Wikipedia:Reliable sources]] for what constitutes a reliable source in general, and [[Wikipedia:Reliable sources/Perennial sources]] for a list of sources that have been frequently discussed on wether they are reliable or not. There is no loophole around providing reliable sources, because there would no way for Wikipedia to [[WP:V|verify]] what has been written, and we are [[WP:BLP|not interested]] in a rerun of [[Wikipedia Seigenthaler biography incident|the Seigenthaler incident]]. [[User:Victor Schmidt|Victor Schmidt]] ([[User talk:Victor Schmidt|talk]]) 17:12, 19 September 2021 (UTC)
::Hello, {{u|Robert Eddison}}. The relevant core content policies are [[WP:OR|No original research]] and, as mentioned above, [[WP:V|Verifiability]]. [[User:Cullen328|<b style="color:#070">Cullen</b><sup style="color:#707">328</sup>]] [[User talk:Cullen328|<span style="color:#00F">''Let's discuss it''</span>]] 17:19, 19 September 2021 (UTC)

== Meaning of a sentence (Armenian genocide) ==

Hi, I'm contemplating a translation of [[Deir ez-Zor camps]] into fr, however there's a sentence that's very unclear to me. Could you please help me? Rephrase or explain?

''When the refugees, including women and children, reached Deir ez-Zor, they cooked grass, ate dead birds, and although there was a cave near the Deir ez-Zor for prisoners to store until they starved, no "camp" seems ever to have been planned for the Armenians.''

So the prisoners were to a desert and there were no supplies at all, so all they could eat was grass and dead birds, which is a sure way to cause starvation. Understood. But I don't understand the meaning of the [[cave]] to store (to store what?). The prisoners could use a cave (?) to store (store what? store their own supplies?) until they starved?

Best regards, --- [[User:Bédévore|Bédévore]] <sup>[[User Talk:Bédévore|[knock knock]]]</sup> 17:16, 19 September 2021 (UTC)&nbsp;- [[User:Bédévore|Bédévore]] <sup>[[User Talk:Bédévore|[knock knock]]]</sup> 17:16, 19 September 2021 (UTC)
:Hello, {{u|Bédévore}}. My best guess is that it is a typographical error and the word should be "stay" instead of "store". To be sure, you can try to obtain the the book used as a reference and find out more about this cave. [[User:Cullen328|<b style="color:#070">Cullen</b><sup style="color:#707">328</sup>]] [[User talk:Cullen328|<span style="color:#00F">''Let's discuss it''</span>]] 17:24, 19 September 2021 (UTC)
::Hi {{ping|Cullen328}} thanks for telling me it must be a typing mistake. It was and I eventually found the original sentence, which makes sense! Best regards, - [[User:Bédévore|Bédévore]] <sup>[[User Talk:Bédévore|[knock knock]]]</sup> 17:48, 19 September 2021 (UTC)

== So I want help ==

As a former naughty person I want to fight graffiti but how do People do it fast and I wanna know&nbsp;[[Special:Contributions/2601:1C2:101:3480:0:0:0:AFC4|2601:1C2:101:3480:0:0:0:AFC4]] ([[User talk:2601:1C2:101:3480:0:0:0:AFC4|talk]]) 18:05, 19 September 2021 (UTC)
: Thanks for wanting to help. Check out the [[WP:CVUA]], a place to train on fighting vandalism. [[User:RudolfRed|RudolfRed]] ([[User talk:RudolfRed|talk]]) 18:10, 19 September 2021 (UTC)
:Hello IP! While Wikipedia doesn't really get all that much graffiti, we do get vandalism, which graffiti is a form of. Please see the above the link. ― [[User:Blaze The Wolf|<b style="background:#0d1125;color:#51aeff;padding:1q;border-radius:5q">Blaze The Wolf</b>]][[User talk:Blaze The Wolf|<sup>Talk</sup>]]<sub title="Discord Username" style="position:relative;right:22q">Blaze Wolf#0001</sub> 18:12, 19 September 2021 (UTC)
::IP address 2601... has been blocked for two weeks because all edits (all made today) have been reverted. As to how it happens fast, there are automated programs that revert obvious vandalism. [[Special:Contributions/157.157.52.49|157.157.52.49]] ([[User talk:157.157.52.49|talk]]) 18:39, 19 September 2021 (UTC)

== Sandbox Links ==
Can I list potentially useful sources in my Sandbox or is that an example of [[WP:LINKFARM]] that will lead to my sandbox being blanked or something?&nbsp;[[User:TipsyElephant|TipsyElephant]] ([[User talk:TipsyElephant|talk]]) 19:38, 19 September 2021 (UTC)
: {{ping|TipsyElephant}} It's perfectly okay if the links are used in your Wikipedia editing, like a source to use later or a reference that you look up often. If the links have no relevance to Wikipedia, then it's best that you put them somewhere else. [[User:Ganbaruby|<span style="color:#960596">◢</span> <b><i style="background-color:#F7E3F7; color:#960596"> Ganbaruby! </i></b>]] <small>([[User talk:Ganbaruby|talk]])</small> 20:07, 19 September 2021 (UTC)
: I have useful-to-me links in my user page; and I've just noticed that {{U|Toccata quarta}} has recommended-to-others links in theirs. (The latter include a link to [[Wikipedia:Disinfoboxes]], which I hadn't previously encountered, and which I warmly recommend as well.) -- [[User:Hoary|Hoary]] ([[User talk:Hoary|talk]]) 22:22, 19 September 2021 (UTC)

== My sandbox reflects the information of the userpage ==

Hi, I need some help with my current draft. I'm working on the draft and trying to code but the Sandbox somehow indicates that it is my userpage. Please, let me know if I'm doing anything wrong here&nbsp; --[[User:GarryGaller|GarryGaller]] ([[User talk:GarryGaller|talk]]) 19:59, 19 September 2021 (UTC)[[User:GarryGaller|GarryGaller]] ([[User talk:GarryGaller|talk]]) 19:58, 19 September 2021 (UTC)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:GarryGaller/sandbox
: {{re|GarryGaller}} Your sandbox (which has your draft article) is at [[User:GarryGaller/sandbox]] and your user page is at [[User:GarryGaller]]. Can you clarify your question? [[User:RudolfRed|RudolfRed]] ([[User talk:RudolfRed|talk]]) 20:09, 19 September 2021 (UTC)
:{{re|RudolfRed|RudolfRed}}. Thanks for a quick resonse. The problem is seen at the Infobox which shows my username, while I added the infobox with these parameters for John R. Stuelpnagel:

{{short description|American entrepreneur and inventor}}
{{Infobox person
| name = John Stuelpnagel
| birth_name = John R. Stuelpnagel
| image =
| image_size =
| caption =
| birth_date =
| birth_place =
| nationality =[[USA|American]]
| occupation = Founder and [[CEO]] of [[Illumina, Inc.]] (1998 - 2009)<br />Chairman and Co-founder of Fabric Genomics (2009 - Present)<br/>Chairman of [[10x Genomics]] (2013 - Present)
| alma mater = [[University of California, Davis]] (B.S) (D.V.M.)<br />[[UCLA Anderson School of Management]] (MBA)
| net_worth =
| spouse =
| children =
| website = {{URL|https://fabricgenomics.com}}
}}--[[User:GarryGaller|GarryGaller]] ([[User talk:GarryGaller|talk]]) 20:23, 19 September 2021 (UTC)
: {{re|GarryGaller}} When I did "preview", the info box showed a lot of errors. I removed the extra spaces in the info box and it seems to have fixed it. I'm not sure why. [[User:RudolfRed|RudolfRed]] ([[User talk:RudolfRed|talk]]) 20:48, 19 September 2021 (UTC)
== New user question ==
how to delete photos i uploaded and artical i uploaded. it is my firt day&nbsp;[[User:Amandassassa|Amandassassa]] ([[User talk:Amandassassa|talk]]) 20:32, 19 September 2021 (UTC)
: {{re|Amandassassa}} For the article, you can add {{t|Db-author}} to the page, and an administrator will delete it for you. Same for the photo, I think. [[User:RudolfRed|RudolfRed]] ([[User talk:RudolfRed|talk]]) 20:55, 19 September 2021 (UTC)

== Deletion of Redirect page for New article ==

What should I do in order to delete [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Adnan_Aslan&redirect=no this redirect page]]? I created this page by confusing this person with another well-known/notable figure [Ednan Aslan]. Now I'd like to create an article for him i.e., Adnan Aslan. Please help.&nbsp;[[User:Mosesheron|Mosesheron]] ([[User talk:Mosesheron|talk]]) 21:09, 19 September 2021 (UTC)
: {{re|Mosesheron}} You can either edit that redirect page directly, and create the new article there. Or, you can create the new article as a draft and the draft reviewer will move it into place over the redirect. [[User:RudolfRed|RudolfRed]] ([[User talk:RudolfRed|talk]]) 21:18, 19 September 2021 (UTC)
:: {{re|RudolfRed}} Thank you. [[User:Mosesheron|Mosesheron]] ([[User talk:Mosesheron|talk]]) 21:23, 19 September 2021 (UTC)

== show that the subject qualifies for a Wikipedia article ==

<strike>Years ago I contributed some under an account [[User:LegCircus]] that I have lost access to. I have since forgotten how to navigate issues of proving relevance and objectivity. Maybe I never really learned how to do this well.</strike>

I would like some hand holding regarding this page. '''How do I get this draft into publish worthy form? [[Draft:Publication_history_of_Whole_Earth_Catalog]]'''

This page is a list/inventory of issues, and as such there are numerous examples of similar pages. The table presented on the page above could be included in this page perhaps - [[Whole_Earth_Catalog]] - but I feel like it was proper to have them be separate pages.

Thanks for all you do&nbsp;[[User:Jerimee|Jerimee]] ([[User talk:Jerimee|talk]]) 23:00, 19 September 2021 (UTC)
: {{ping|Jerimee}} I think this falls under [[WP:NOTINDISCRIMINATE]] and shouldn't be on Wikipedia at all. Wikipedia's purpose is not to include every single piece of information on the planet, but rather, summarize select encyclopedic information. You say that {{tq|there are numerous examples of similar pages}}, but I don't ever recall a list of every issue of a magazine (except from comics), and also, [[WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS]]. [[User:Ganbaruby|<span style="color:#960596">◢</span> <b><i style="background-color:#F7E3F7; color:#960596"> Ganbaruby! </i></b>]] <small>([[User talk:Ganbaruby|talk]])</small> 02:14, 20 September 2021 (UTC)

:: Thanks for your reply {{ping|Ganbaruby}}. Here is what OTHERSTUFFEX says ''"The nature of Wikipedia means that you cannot make a convincing argument based solely on whether other articles do or do not exist, because there is nothing stopping anyone from creating any article. (This may be an argument that this article is not bad enough to be speedily deleted; but that does not mean it should be kept.) While these comparisons are not a conclusive test, they may form part of a cogent argument; an entire comment should not be dismissed because it includes a comparative statement like this. While comparing with other articles is not, in general, a convincing argument, comparing with articles that have been through some kind of quality review such as Featured article, Good article, or have achieved a WikiProject A class rating, make a much more credible case."'' So, I'll provide examples, despite them not being sufficient.

Here is that list {{tq|numerous examples of similar pages}}:

* https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Coronet_Films
* https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Studio_D
* https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Mystery_Science_Theater_3000_episodes
* MAG: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Lists_of_magazine_issues
* MAG: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_people_in_Playboy_1960%E2%80%931969
* https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Encyclop%C3%A6dia_Britannica_Films_titles

With regard to [[WP:NOTINDISCRIMINATE]] the first principle seems to apply to creative works, WEC is not that. The other three principles do not apply.

As for a positive argument...

WEC is arguably a precursor of the internet itself, and the predecessor of the [[The_WELL]]. It influenced/inspired [[Wired_(magazine)]] and a host of other projects. [[Steve Jobs]] compared ''The Whole Earth Catalog'' to Internet search engine [[Google]] in his June 2005 Stanford University [[commencement speech]].

Of course, I'm looking for help getting the thing published. '''What labors need to be accomplished for that to happen?'''

--[[User:Jerimee|Jerimee]] ([[User talk:Jerimee|talk]]) 18:08, 20 September 2021 (UTC)
:{{ping|Jerimee}} Welcome to the Teahouse! It might be helpful if you could provide independent reliable sources that discuss individual issues. Happy editing! [[User:GoingBatty|GoingBatty]] ([[User talk:GoingBatty|talk]]) 18:30, 20 September 2021 (UTC)
::{{ping|GoingBatty}} ? --[[User:Jerimee|Jerimee]] ([[User talk:Jerimee|talk]]) 20:11, 20 September 2021 (UTC)
:: Ah! Now I get it: "provide independent reliable sources that discuss individual issues ''of whole earth catalog'' - sorry I didn't get it at first - okay that's helpful thanks --[[User:Jerimee|Jerimee]] ([[User talk:Jerimee|talk]]) 00:03, 21 September 2021 (UTC)

== A question on WP:OTHER ==

Would referring to another deletion discussion in an AFD be counted under [[WP:OTHER]]? That is, if something was done in another AFD, can that AFD be cited to do the same thing in another AFD? My educated guess is No since it would depend on context. But want more opinions. &nbsp;[[User:Nomadicghumakkad|Nomadicghumakkad]] ([[User talk:Nomadicghumakkad|talk]]) 23:21, 19 September 2021 (UTC)
: {{ping|Nomadicghumakkad}} You're correct that you can't solely base an argument on a prior AfD result, since AfD should be done on a case by case basis. That being said, if the past discussion is relevant to the current discussion, or if someone made a good point in the past discussion that you also think applies, it's okay to point those out and help editors reach a consensus. WP:OTHER does not blanket-ban referencing other discussions if they're useful. [[User:Ganbaruby|<span style="color:#960596">◢</span> <b><i style="background-color:#F7E3F7; color:#960596"> Ganbaruby! </i></b>]] <small>([[User talk:Ganbaruby|talk]])</small> 00:13, 20 September 2021 (UTC)
::{{Ping|Nomadicghumakkad}} I'd add to this that the amount of participation at the discussion is relevant. If only two or three people turned up (or even fewer, as is often happening at AFD nowadays) then it's not much evidence that the result matched normal community standards, but if it had 10 participants then that's much more compelling as an example to point to (if the cases are genuinely quite similar). — [[User:Bilorv|Bilorv]] ('''[[User talk:Bilorv|<span style="color:purple">talk</span>]]''') 08:26, 20 September 2021 (UTC)

== Unofficial translations for non English language content ==

Hello, I have a question about names and terminology for non English language content. If there is an article about something which has not been officially translated to English, but there are unofficial translations, should the terminology use the original source language names or the unofficial translations? Thanks.&nbsp;[[Special:Contributions/2404:2D00:5000:841:5C9B:A0FA:A047:3541|2404:2D00:5000:841:5C9B:A0FA:A047:3541]] ([[User talk:2404:2D00:5000:841:5C9B:A0FA:A047:3541|talk]]) 01:14, 20 September 2021 (UTC)
: Hello IP, I deal with Chinese-language subjects quite often. Look for [[WP:RS|reliable sources]] in English that talk about the subject, and determine which English name is most commonly used. If there are no English reliable sources, but a translation is commonly thrown around in non-reliable places (Internet forums, blog posts, etc), I'll go with that. If ''that'' doesn't exist, then I go with a transliteration. May I ask which foreign language you're dealing with? [[User:Ganbaruby|<span style="color:#960596">◢</span> <b><i style="background-color:#F7E3F7; color:#960596"> Ganbaruby! </i></b>]] <small>([[User talk:Ganbaruby|talk]])</small> 01:57, 20 September 2021 (UTC)
::I'm thinking of Japanese pop culture fiction in this case, for which there are few truly reliable sources. Is an unofficial translation really the right choice even if it's clearly a bad one, simply because it's commonly used? The idea of Wikipedia further proliferating erroneous terminology/translations feels sketchy to me. [[Special:Contributions/2404:2D00:5000:841:5C9B:A0FA:A047:3541|2404:2D00:5000:841:5C9B:A0FA:A047:3541]] ([[User talk:2404:2D00:5000:841:5C9B:A0FA:A047:3541|talk]]) 02:08, 20 September 2021 (UTC)
:::I had a feeling this was something Japanese haha. I'd say that a direct romanization would be a safe option, and you can create redirects later to cover your bases. Good luck! [[User:Ganbaruby|<span style="color:#960596">◢</span> <b><i style="background-color:#F7E3F7; color:#960596"> Ganbaruby! </i></b>]] <small>([[User talk:Ganbaruby|talk]])</small> 02:17, 20 September 2021 (UTC)

== How does WP:PLOT apply to non-plot sections? ==

Hello, I have familiarized myself with WP:PLOT, but it does not address character sections in articles on fiction. Some articles may have plot sections that comply with WP:PLOT, but then have huge bloated character sections where each character has a massive profile that goes into everything they do in the story. This seems highly contrary to the intent of WP:PLOT, but I've seen the argument that WP:PLOT doesn't apply to character sections, or that character sections are standard in fiction articles. Are there any guidelines on how character sections should be handled?&nbsp;[[Special:Contributions/2404:2D00:5000:841:5C9B:A0FA:A047:3541|2404:2D00:5000:841:5C9B:A0FA:A047:3541]] ([[User talk:2404:2D00:5000:841:5C9B:A0FA:A047:3541|talk]]) 01:19, 20 September 2021 (UTC)
: You might want to read [[Wp:FANCRUFT]]. My rule of thumb is to write "as little as possible". Describe the most crucial pieces of information so that readers can understand the plot. If there's an important event in the character's arc, mention that. Ultimately, where to draw the line is done by [[WP:CONSENSUS|consensus]] among editors, so if you're starting from scratch, go with what you think is reasonable detail and not fancruft-ey. [[User:Ganbaruby|<span style="color:#960596">◢</span> <b><i style="background-color:#F7E3F7; color:#960596"> Ganbaruby! </i></b>]] <small>([[User talk:Ganbaruby|talk]])</small> 02:08, 20 September 2021 (UTC)

== Teahouse: What is Teahouse? and why is it important to me? ==

&nbsp;[[User:Ameliahampton03|Ameliahampton03]] ([[User talk:Ameliahampton03|talk]]) 02:21, 20 September 2021 (UTC)
: Hello {{u|Ameliahampton03}}, the Teahouse is a place for new editors like you to ask questions about editing Wikipedia. If you ever run into a situation on Wikipedia where you're not sure how to proceed, feel free to ask here (be specific), and experienced editors will try to help you. [[User:Ganbaruby|<span style="color:#960596">◢</span> <b><i style="background-color:#F7E3F7; color:#960596"> Ganbaruby! </i></b>]] <small>([[User talk:Ganbaruby|talk]])</small> 02:29, 20 September 2021 (UTC)

== i can't edit anything ==

&nbsp;[[User:Ayansharma214sar|Ayansharma214sar]] ([[User talk:Ayansharma214sar|talk]]) 07:40, 20 September 2021 (UTC)

:@[[User:Ayansharma214sar|Ayansharma214sar]] You have been partially blocked from Article space as per the notice on your [[User talk:Ayansharma214sar|talk page]] and also please read [[WP:ANB#Unsourced, repeatedly reverted edits by Ayansharma214sar|this discussion on WP:ANB]] concerning you. '''<span style="color:#f535aa">—</span> [[User:Paper9oll|<span style="background:#f535aa;color:#fff;padding:2px;border-radius:5px">Paper9oll</span>]] <span style="color:#f535aa">([[User talk:Paper9oll|🔔]] • [[Special:Contributions/Paper9oll|📝]])</span>''' 07:47, 20 September 2021 (UTC)

== Maps without citations, original research? ==

What is the policy on wikipedia when it comes to maps that are non-cited.

From my understanding, maps are acceptable when they have a source. This can include an interpretation of a textual description, which would not be original research. It could also be an original conversion or "translation" from a historical map or a map that has citations from a book, to a more legible digital form. This is particularly useful when the image being conveyed is more focused on general labels.

But in all those cases, you still need some sort of source or citation. But some maps have none. Now perhaps they are based off of data. But without the data being cited, how can we know?

And the way maps are depicted, particularly of historical areas, can be very misleading. Particularly when it comes to borders (which is why I appreciate when older maps of cultures have a blur effect on the edge rather than a solid line). This can further bias the difference between areas when one is depicted in their article as having a blurry border, while a comparable group in another article is depicted with a solid border, even though, during that era, borders were effectively just as malleable.

As two examples of maps I'm having issues with:
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Ancient_Egypt_and_Mesopotamia_c._1450_BC.png
This map has no citations. On one page, it has a description, but it does not say whether or not the map is based off that description nor where that description came from, and that information is not located on the page for the image itself.

https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Black_Drink_map_HRoe_2008.jpg
That image has multiple issues, notably the writing within the image, but the primary issue I have with it is the lack of any source. Theres no way to know where the information from this image came from. And there is a LOT of elements within that image.

The problem is... if these maps are acceptable without citations, it can gravely distort what is being conveyed from what is actually known.

If they are not acceptable... well then wikipedia has an endemic issue with citations from my quick look at some of the other maps. As I said before, plenty of maps are fine, but tons would be unacceptable.

And, if they are not acceptable, I'm a little lost at how I should make such known. I could post about it on one of the pages that uses said image... but the issue is with the image itself and it's data. At the same time, I respect that its possible an image DOES have citations that were omitted, and it would be reasonable to give the author the ability to add that data. In the mean-time, would the image stay up? Or be taken down until sources are provided? And... how would I go about doing that when it comes to the image itself, not just the articles its used in?

Thanks!&nbsp;[[User:GalacticKiss|GalacticKiss]] ([[User talk:GalacticKiss|talk]]) 08:09, 20 September 2021 (UTC)

:@[[User:GalacticKiss|GalacticKiss]] Good question, and I have no idea. You could try asking at [[Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Maps]]. [[User:Gråbergs Gråa Sång|Gråbergs Gråa Sång]] ([[User talk:Gråbergs Gråa Sång|talk]]) 14:16, 20 September 2021 (UTC)

::{{re|GalacticKiss|Gråbergs Gråa Sång}} actually I'd say it's an issue for the [[WP:NORN|no original research noticeboard]] as it's a policy violation. [[User:Doug Weller|<span style="color:#070">Doug Weller</span>]] [[User talk:Doug Weller|talk]] 15:11, 20 September 2021 (UTC)

== HOW TO COMMEMORATE BY GRAND FATHER. ==

HOW TO COMMEMORATE BY GRAND FATHER.

Hello Teahouse I'm Edgar Allan N. Flores, grand son of Alejandro Evangelista Flores Senior. I would like to commemorate my grand father through this wikipedia. My reliable source of information is my father Alejandro Santiago Flores Junior, son of my grand father. Any tips on how to start our account.Thank you[[User:Alejandro Evangelista Flores Sr.|Alejandro Evangelista Flores Sr.]] ([[User talk:Alejandro Evangelista Flores Sr.|talk]]) 08:53, 20 September 2021 (UTC)&nbsp;[[User:Alejandro Evangelista Flores Sr.|Alejandro Evangelista Flores Sr.]] ([[User talk:Alejandro Evangelista Flores Sr.|talk]]) 08:53, 20 September 2021 (UTC)

:[[User:Alejandro Evangelista Flores Sr.|Alejandro Evangelista Flores Sr.]], you have already started your account; it's "Alejandro Evangelista Flores Sr." Wikipedia articles are based on reliable, published sources that are independent of their subjects. However reliable he may be, and even if his material is published, your proposed source is not independent of your proposed subject. And you aren't independent of your proposed subject either. Therefore please do not attempt to create a draft. If you'd like to commemorate your grandfather, please do so on some other website. -- [[User:Hoary|Hoary]] ([[User talk:Hoary|talk]]) 09:06, 20 September 2021 (UTC)
:Please also see [[WP:NOTMEMORIAL]], {{U|Alejandro Evangelista Flores Sr.}}. --[[User:ColinFine|ColinFine]] ([[User talk:ColinFine|talk]]) 14:31, 20 September 2021 (UTC)

== Review before draft posting ==

Hello,
This is the first time I am posting an article on Wikipedia and the process is quite intimidating. I have reviewd the guidelines related to the topic of bitcoin and I think this article respects these guidelines.

Could you tell me if I can click on the "draft review" or an experienced editor has to have a look again?
Thanks for the clarification.&nbsp;[[User:User67343322|User67343322]] ([[User talk:User67343322|talk]]) 10:44, 20 September 2021 (UTC)
: One of the things which you ought to do before you submit the draft for review is to remove the misplaced [[WP:external links|external links]] from the article text. If appropriate you could replace them by [[WP:REFB|references]]. - [[User:David Biddulph|David Biddulph]] ([[User talk:David Biddulph|talk]]) 10:50, 20 September 2021 (UTC)
:{{u|User67343322}} Hello and welcome to the Teahouse. Yes, you click on the "Submit your draft for review!" button to actually submit your draft. You should be aware that you have chosen a challenging area in which to edit(bitcoin) with its own special rules; I posted more information about this on your user talk page. [[User:331dot|331dot]] ([[User talk:331dot|talk]]) 10:54, 20 September 2021 (UTC)

== Support for editing and resubmiting an article ==

Hello Team, My name is Arun and I recently opened a Wikipedia account in the name of Username: vishuddhalive, My first article was about an actor in my home town Kozhikode Kerala, India. As this was my first article I had a few difficulties in adding reference links, external links and adding images to my article and a few technical editing tools. My first article is about a known friend in my home town who has acted in several movies in Indian Malayalam language cinemas and is getting popular in each work he is doing. I have read the guidelines and rules of Wikipedia and drafted this article to the best of my knowledge with all the relevant sources from online and content created by myself. But unfortunately, I could not meet the guidelines and it did not get approval for submission. Kindly note the link to my sandbox:https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Vishuddhalive/sandbox&redirect=no and let me know how to go about this further. I'm looking forward to contributing to Wikipedia and would like to become a reliable editor of Wikipedia. Kindle revert what to do next.
Thank you
Arun&nbsp;[[User:Vishuddhalive|Vishuddhalive]] ([[User talk:Vishuddhalive|talk]]) 11:01, 20 September 2021 (UTC)

:Well, [[User:Vishuddhalive|Vishuddhalive]], let's consider the section "Early Life" as an example. It cites no sources. Where did you find this material? In particular, what's your evidence for saying that "the founder of AP Balakrishna Pillai Jewellers" was "one of the trusted names in the gold and gold jewellery business in Kozhikode", and (even if you have evidence), why do you say it? -- [[User:Hoary|Hoary]] ([[User talk:Hoary|talk]]) 12:10, 20 September 2021 (UTC)
:{{ping|Vishuddhalive}} Welcome to the Teahouse! If you haven't done so already, please review the [[Wikipedia:Plain and simple conflict of interest guide]]. [[User:GoingBatty|GoingBatty]] ([[User talk:GoingBatty|talk]]) 15:36, 20 September 2021 (UTC)

== Rename request ==

Hello,

Today (Sep. 20, 2021) I created a page for my company and now the tittle of the page is my user name and not the company's name.

I placed a 'rename request' and now the status is: 'pending approval'. I would like to know when I'm going to have news about it.

Thank you very much.&nbsp;[[User:Ccruzloudly|Ccruzloudly]] ([[User talk:Ccruzloudly|talk]]) 11:26, 20 September 2021 (UTC)

:I've moved it to [[User:Ccruzloudly/sandbox]]. It says that the company "offers music solutions of many types". What is a "music solution"? That aside, if you are an employee, then the company is paying you money for what you do, and part of this is writing a draft, so it's a paid contribution. Please read [[Wikipedia:Paid-contribution disclosure]] very carefully, and do what it tells you to do. <!-- Template:Unsigned --><span class="autosigned" style="font-size:85%;">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Hoary|Hoary]] ([[User talk:Hoary#top|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Hoary|contribs]]) 11:55, 20 September 2021 (UTC)</span>

:Please be aware, {{U|Ccruzloudly}}, that if you succeed in getting your draft accepted as an article, the article will not belong to your company, it will not be under control of you or your company, it may end up saying things you don't want it to say, and it should be based almost 100% on what people unconnected with the company have published about it, not on what the company says or wants to say. At present, the only one of the references that even ''might'' be independent is the DJTechTools one, and that does not really have [[WP:significant coverage|significant coverage]] of the company. --[[User:ColinFine|ColinFine]] ([[User talk:ColinFine|talk]]) 14:39, 20 September 2021 (UTC)

== Reference transcluded in multiple places ==

Hi all, I'm fixing some broken references across Wikipedia and I noticed this one on [[Bahrain_at_the_2020_Summer_Olympics]]. It's because the section is transcluded in this [[Handball at the 2020 Summer Olympics – Men's team rosters]] article, but I assume this reference is also transcluded to other articles. How do you deal with this situation? I've looked at the Citation help pages but I can't see how to resolve it if a reference definition is needed in multiple places.&nbsp;[[User:BeReasonabl|BeReasonabl]] ([[User talk:BeReasonabl|talk]]) 12:18, 20 September 2021 (UTC)
:Hi [[User:BeReasonabl|BeReasonabl]]. That is tricky. The reference is indeed transcluded to other articles. I don't know a recommended solution. I improvised by copying the reference definition with a source comment that it must be identical.[https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Handball_at_the_2020_Summer_Olympics_%E2%80%93_Men%27s_team_rosters&diff=1045420319&oldid=1038280159] It's ugly but it works (until somebody breaks it). It's allowed to define a named reference multiple times if the definitions are identical, but it shouldn't normally be done. [[User:PrimeHunter|PrimeHunter]] ([[User talk:PrimeHunter|talk]]) 14:11, 20 September 2021 (UTC)
::{{reply to|PrimeHunter}} thanks for your help again in referencing. I see how it works now, but I also understand how brittle this is. However, it seems like the only way to resolve this issue? Perhaps this is why transclusion is a contested issue on Wikipedia? Once again, thanks. [[User:BeReasonabl|BeReasonabl]] ([[User talk:BeReasonabl|talk]]) 03:09, 21 September 2021 (UTC)

== Notability ==

I wish to write an article on a switch emulator named Ryujinx. I found articles about it on
https://boilingsteam.com/ryujinx-switch-emulator-gets-the-vulkan-treatment/
https://www.thenerdmag.com/how-to-setup-ryujinx-nintendo-switch-emulator-on-windows-10-and-play-switch-games/
https://wccftech.com/ryujinx-nintendo-switch-emulator-just-got-a-massive-performance-boost/
etc...

Is my subject notable?&nbsp;[[User:SakuraMiyazono|SakuraMiyazono]] ([[User talk:SakuraMiyazono|talk]]) 13:39, 20 September 2021 (UTC)

:{{ping|SakuraMiyazono}} Another Switch emulator.. interesting. Well if it's gotten enough coverage by reliable secondary sources then my guess would be yes, but let's wait for someone who knows whether or not the sources you found are reliable or not. ― [[User:Blaze The Wolf|<b style="background:#0d1125;color:#51aeff;padding:1q;border-radius:5q">Blaze The Wolf</b>]][[User talk:Blaze The Wolf|<sup>Talk</sup>]]<sub title="Discord Username" style="position:relative;right:22q">Blaze Wolf#0001</sub> 13:41, 20 September 2021 (UTC)
:Per aboutpages [https://boilingsteam.com/about-boiling-steam-2/][https://www.thenerdmag.com/about-us/] seems to be [[WP:BLOGS]]. The third one [https://wccftech.com/about/] looks a little better, but per ''"If you are a marketer looking for ways to connect your brand with our audience, please contact us at"'' one wonders how independent they are. [[User:Gråbergs Gråa Sång|Gråbergs Gråa Sång]] ([[User talk:Gråbergs Gråa Sång|talk]]) 14:14, 20 September 2021 (UTC)
:{{ping|Gråbergs Gråa Sång}} What about https://www.forbes.com/sites/jasonevangelho/2018/04/19/2-nintendo-switch-emulators-are-operational-and-running-gameplay/?sh=d7c24cf1ef2f?[[User:SakuraMiyazono|SakuraMiyazono]] ([[User talk:SakuraMiyazono|talk]]) 14:21, 20 September 2021 (UTC)
::@[[User:SakuraMiyazono|SakuraMiyazono]] Please read [[WP:NSOFTWARE]]. '''<span style="color:#f535aa">—</span> [[User:Paper9oll|<span style="background:#f535aa;color:#fff;padding:2px;border-radius:5px">Paper9oll</span>]] <span style="color:#f535aa">([[User talk:Paper9oll|🔔]] • [[Special:Contributions/Paper9oll|📝]])</span>''' 14:26, 20 September 2021 (UTC)
::@[[User:SakuraMiyazono|SakuraMiyazono]], I swear I didn't make up this one to mess with you: [[WP:FORBESCON]]. [[User:Gråbergs Gråa Sång|Gråbergs Gråa Sång]] ([[User talk:Gråbergs Gråa Sång|talk]]) 14:32, 20 September 2021 (UTC)
:::@[[User:Gråbergs Gråa Sång]] Thanks for your help. I was making sure whether the subject for my article is notable.- [[User:SakuraMiyazono|SakuraMiyazono]] ([[User talk:SakuraMiyazono|talk]]) 14:34, 20 September 2021 (UTC)
:::{{ping|Gråbergs Gråa Sång}} When I looked at that it actually confused me because I had been told that Forbes is reliable, but then I saw that really only the staff written articles on Forbes are reliable. ― [[User:Blaze The Wolf|<b style="background:#0d1125;color:#51aeff;padding:1q;border-radius:5q">Blaze The Wolf</b>]][[User talk:Blaze The Wolf|<sup>Talk</sup>]]<sub title="Discord Username" style="position:relative;right:22q">Blaze Wolf#0001</sub> 14:50, 20 September 2021 (UTC)
::::@[[User:Blaze The Wolf|Blaze The Wolf]] Yeah, there are a few RSP entries that are "split." Some newspapers have "blog" sections too. [[User:Gråbergs Gråa Sång|Gråbergs Gråa Sång]] ([[User talk:Gråbergs Gråa Sång|talk]]) 15:12, 20 September 2021 (UTC)
Thanks everyone. - [[User:SakuraMiyazono|SakuraMiyazono]] ([[User talk:SakuraMiyazono|talk]]) 14:31, 20 September 2021 (UTC)

==[[Richard Lynn]] article==

I've tried editing an article 'Richard Lynn' and another editor keeps changing it right back without discussion. The article's a dog's breakfast, as I've said at the Page Talk. The lede is dozens of lines long. The page is about a 91 year old scientist who is obviously a scientific racist and is still working. That's virtually all that's in the huge article, however. But there's no doubt that much of his work is still orthodoxy today. It should be perfectly possible to have a WP article which describes both in an appropriate way. The lede is absurd and the unusable negative POV of the whole thing has the effect of shading the legitimate criticisms of the man. If any experienced editor or admin could take a look I'd very much appreciate any thoughts. [[User:SteveCree2|SteveCree2]] ([[User talk:SteveCree2|talk]]) 15:03, 20 September 2021 (UTC)

:{{ping|SteveCree2}} The other user has explained their reverts perfectly well, you are going against an established consensus. ― [[User:Blaze The Wolf|<b style="background:#0d1125;color:#51aeff;padding:1q;border-radius:5q">Blaze The Wolf</b>]][[User talk:Blaze The Wolf|<sup>Talk</sup>]]<sub title="Discord Username" style="position:relative;right:22q">Blaze Wolf#0001</sub> 15:06, 20 September 2021 (UTC)
:{{ping|Skllagyook}} Pinging so you can explain your reasoning a little better to this user. ― [[User:Blaze The Wolf|<b style="background:#0d1125;color:#51aeff;padding:1q;border-radius:5q">Blaze The Wolf</b>]][[User talk:Blaze The Wolf|<sup>Talk</sup>]]<sub title="Discord Username" style="position:relative;right:22q">Blaze Wolf#0001</sub> 15:07, 20 September 2021 (UTC)

Thanks @blazethewolf. If the established consensus is that the lede should be dozens of lines long and that the article as a whole should be incoherent and inaccurate then I'll leave it alone. The established consensus appears to be a matter of politics and I really couldn't be less interested. [[User:SteveCree2|SteveCree2]] ([[User talk:SteveCree2|talk]]) 15:10, 20 September 2021 (UTC)
:{{re|SteveCree2}} I'd phrase the consensus differently. For such a contentious topic as eugenics, there's a balance required between whitewashing over the topic, and respecting [[WP:BLP]]. And frequently (including here), that balance is found by making mention of their non-mainstream (aka fringe) position in the lede (being first mentioned in section 8 of the article is seen as whitewashing, a position I strongly agree with), and often the detail required to explain the notable allegations while respecting [[WP:BLP]] ends up increasing the word count.
:There might be a lighter touch that could be applied to the lede if your primary concern is length (and not that his eugenic views aren't notable). The issue seems to be that you '''''removed''''' all references to eugenics in the lede, rather than '''''condensing''''' them from ~15 sentences to ~2 sentences in the lede. If you don't want to engage in the topic because you consider it political, then that might just mean it's not the article you want to work on. [[User:Bakkster Man|Bakkster Man]] ([[User talk:Bakkster Man|talk]]) 15:33, 20 September 2021 (UTC)

Thanks @bakksterman That Lynn is a eugenicist and racist is beyond any reasonable question or doubt. There - that's a single sentence; not 15. The rest don't belong in the lede and should be in the main body. I didn't 'condense' any of those 15 sentences, as I said at the Page Talk I put them unedited into the main body where they were more appropriate. It's not simply a matter of length, either, it's a matter of coherence. It's political, all right. But a little more subtly than readers might think. It includes a defence of the psychology establishment by not permitting any recognition that aspects of Lynn's work remains orthodox within it. It's vested interest lobbying 101. Anyhoo, nice to chat and cheerio for now. [[User:SteveCree2|SteveCree2]] ([[User talk:SteveCree2|talk]]) 15:51, 20 September 2021 (UTC)
:{{re|SteveCree2}} in that case, my suggestion for the future (or in your remaining discussions on this article) is that when you move such a substantial topic out of the lede, you should also leave behind a summary of the topic in the lede. If you continue, I've found it beneficial to suggest such a paraphrase as part of the discussion. "This is bad" is less likely to be successful that "here's how we can improve this". Hope that helps. [[User:Bakkster Man|Bakkster Man]] ([[User talk:Bakkster Man|talk]]) 16:47, 20 September 2021 (UTC)

Thanks @bakksterman Very helpful advice. I'll keep that in mind. [[User:SteveCree2|SteveCree2]] ([[User talk:SteveCree2|talk]]) 17:05, 20 September 2021 (UTC)

:{{u|SteveCree2}}, when I see that a statement is cited to seven or more sources, as in the Lynn article, I suspect that something fishy is going on. In this case I have no idea on what, and no urge to find out. [[User:Maproom|Maproom]] ([[User talk:Maproom|talk]]) 17:14, 20 September 2021 (UTC)

'When I see that a statement is cited..... no urge to find out'. That is the power of lobbing. But I say that with respect. Thanks @maproom <!-- Template:Unsigned --><span class="autosigned" style="font-size:85%;">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:SteveCree2|SteveCree2]] ([[User talk:SteveCree2#top|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/SteveCree2|contribs]]) 19:52, 20 September 2021 (UTC)</span>

== Review times changing ==

Hi, I have created a [[Draft:Art Aia - Creatives In Residence|draft]]and noticed that the waiting review time is changing according to the number of submissions.I have also noticed that drafts are not reviewed in a specific order. Are new article reviewed according to when the draft was submitted or it doesn't make a difference ? Thanks--[[User:Saraino|Saraino]] ([[User talk:Saraino|talk]]) 15:18, 20 September 2021 (UTC)&nbsp;[[User:Saraino|Saraino]] ([[User talk:Saraino|talk]]) 15:18, 20 September 2021 (UTC)
:@[[User:Saraino|Saraino]]: Welcome to the Teahouse. It's a backlog, so there isn't any order as to when drafts are reviewed. —[[User:Tenryuu|<span style="color:#556B2F">Tenryuu&nbsp;🐲</span>]]&nbsp;(&nbsp;[[User talk:Tenryuu|💬]]&nbsp;•&nbsp;[[Special:Contributions/Tenryuu|📝]]&nbsp;) 15:21, 20 September 2021 (UTC)
::@[[User:Saraino|Saraino]] from what I've read reviewers choose drafts on subjects they are interested in and knowledgable about. For example, a reviewer may be interested in science, but may know nothing about several other subjects, so will look for science-themed drafts. Reviewers are all volunteers, so its best to be patient, and wait for a volunteer with an interest in the subject you are writing about, instead of wanting drafts to be reviewed by the next available person, who may not have any understanding of the topic he or she has to review. [[User:Karenthewriter|Karenthewriter]] ([[User talk:Karenthewriter|talk]]) 23:19, 20 September 2021 (UTC)

== Draft:Andrea Unger - Submission declined on 20 September 2021 ==

Hello Teahouse, I received a page rejection and I want to explore how can I improve the page. Because I think that the person I mentioned is really notable (just to win 4 times the official Worldcup Trading Championship). Other people who won this competition (once) has been already in wikipedia (e.g. Larry Williams). What kind of resources can I use? May helps that this person is already in wikipedia with another language? Thanks in advance for your time and your suggestions. Angio92
[[Draft:Andrea_Unger]]&nbsp;[[User:Angio92|Angio92]] ([[User talk:Angio92|talk]]) 15:41, 20 September 2021 (UTC)

: [[WP:OTHERSTUFF]] doesn't count. BTW, your draft has been declined, not rejected. --[[User:CiaPan|CiaPan]] ([[User talk:CiaPan|talk]]) 15:55, 20 September 2021 (UTC)
::Other language does not count for confirming notability. However, other language references can be used. [[Special:Contributions/157.157.52.49|157.157.52.49]] ([[User talk:157.157.52.49|talk]]) 16:23, 20 September 2021 (UTC)

:Hello, {{U|Andrea Unger}}, and welcome to the Teahouse. In general, for determining [[WP:notability|notability]] in the special Wikipedia sense, it doesn't help to look at what the person has done: what matters is how much has been (independently) written about them. It is perfectly possible for two people to have done pretty much the same things, but one has been written about at length and the other not: because Wikipedia is based on independent published sources, an article could be written about the first, but not about the secod. --[[User:ColinFine|ColinFine]] ([[User talk:ColinFine|talk]]) 16:49, 20 September 2021 (UTC)
::Correcting misping: {{U|Angio92}}. --[[User:ColinFine|ColinFine]] ([[User talk:ColinFine|talk]]) 16:50, 20 September 2021 (UTC)
:{{re|ColinFine}}so, basically I think it's a good idea to add some articles (as resources) written by [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Il_Sole_24_Ore]] and [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MF_Milano_Finanza]] that are the most important financial newspapers in Italy. 20:17, 20 September 2021 (UTC)

:{{ping|Angio92}} The Wikipedia article titled [[Larry Williams]] is about an American rhythm and blues and rock and roll singer. Maybe some of the references at [[Larry R. Williams]] would be helpful with your draft. Happy editing! [[User:GoingBatty|GoingBatty]] ([[User talk:GoingBatty|talk]]) 17:57, 20 September 2021 (UTC)
:{{re|Angio92}} There are two approaches I would take. First, you need to establish that the competition he won is notable. Right now, there's no Wikipedia article about it. If it had an article, you'd have a better chance convincing others that winning is a big deal. Secondly, you might look for coverage of his books. If they've been reviewed in the mainstream press, in English or Italian, that would help your case. [[User:Timtempleton|<b style="color:#7F007F">TimTempleton</b>]] [[User talk:Timtempleton|<sup style="color:#800080">(talk)</sup>]] [[Special:Contributions/Timtempleton|<sup style="color:#7F007F">(cont)</sup>]] 18:52, 20 September 2021 (UTC)
:{{re|Timtempleton}} thanks for your suggestion! into these two Wiki's pages the competition is mentioned: [[Larry_R._Williams]] | [[Michelle_Williams_(actress)]] 20:11, 20 September 2021 (UTC) <!-- Template:Unsigned --><span class="autosigned" style="font-size:85%;">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Angio92|Angio92]] ([[User talk:Angio92#top|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Angio92|contribs]]) </span>
::Yes, but notability supported by other referenced accomplishments. [[Special:Contributions/157.157.52.49|157.157.52.49]] ([[User talk:157.157.52.49|talk]]) 22:03, 20 September 2021 (UTC)

== Using AfC and Teahouse ==

If I were to get access to the tools used to accept or reject AfCs would it still be appropriate to submit my own drafts through AfC? Similarly, if I were to consider becoming someone who answers questions here at the Teahouse would it still be appropriate for me to ask questions here?&nbsp;[[User:TipsyElephant|TipsyElephant]] ([[User talk:TipsyElephant|talk]]) 18:34, 20 September 2021 (UTC)
:{{reply|TipsyElephant}} Yes, that's fine. I use the reviewer tools and I have also submitted a draft via AFC. There is no conflict. ~[[User:Anachronist|Anachronist]] <small>([[User talk:Anachronist|talk]])</small> 18:40, 20 September 2021 (UTC)
:{{ping|TipsyElephant}} While I can't answer your first question, the answer to your second question is most definitely yes. Even experienced editors who are Teahouse hosts need to ask questions here occasionally. For example, most recently {{u|David notMD}} asked a question here on something they weren't sure about. I myself, while not a Teahouse host (though I may have enough experience at this point to become one) ask questions here because this place is more friendly and less... well, formal compared to the Help Desk (I'm sure the Help Desk is plenty friendly, however there's a certain... vibe I get from the teahouse that makes me feel better about asking questions, for lack of better words). ― [[User:Blaze The Wolf|<b style="background:#0d1125;color:#51aeff;padding:1q;border-radius:5q">Blaze The Wolf</b>]][[User talk:Blaze The Wolf|<sup>Talk</sup>]]<sub title="Discord Username" style="position:relative;right:22q">Blaze Wolf#0001</sub> 18:41, 20 September 2021 (UTC)
:{{ec}}Using AFC is always optional, {{U|TipsyElephant}}. If you think you can create a satisfactory article in one go, you can create it directly in article space. If you create a draft, develop it, and then decide that it is acceptable as an article, you can move it to article space without sending it for review: it's your choice. If you are regularly reviewing drafts, then you can probably judge for yourself whether your article is ready for mainspace, but you always have the option of submitting it for review.
:As for the Teahouse: it's supposed to be a place for beginners, so if you are answering questions here, there's a case to say that any questins you still need to ask should go to the help desk rather than here; but nobody's likely to get upset if you post a question here. --[[User:ColinFine|ColinFine]] ([[User talk:ColinFine|talk]]) 18:42, 20 September 2021 (UTC)
::Interesting point {{u|ColinFine}}. I agree to a large extent, but I've seen plenty of veterans use TEA to answer questions around archiving user pages, etc. [[User:Bkissin|Bkissin]] ([[User talk:Bkissin|talk]]) 18:46, 20 September 2021 (UTC)
::{{reply|Blaze The Wolf}} The Teahouse and Help Desk have different purposes. And I ask, and answer, questions on both. These venues exist to help anyone, even an administrator with a questions. ~[[User:Anachronist|Anachronist]] <small>([[User talk:Anachronist|talk]])</small> 18:44, 20 September 2021 (UTC)
:::{{ping|Anachronist}} I never really said I felt that the Teahouse and Help Desk have the same purpose. I simply just said that you can ask questions and answer questions here and that I prefer the Teahouse for asking question because.. well I"m not exactly sure how to describe it in a way that would make sense, other than the Teahouse's "vibe" feels less threatening than Help Desk. ― [[User:Blaze The Wolf|<b style="background:#0d1125;color:#51aeff;padding:1q;border-radius:5q">Blaze The Wolf</b>]][[User talk:Blaze The Wolf|<sup>Talk</sup>]]<sub title="Discord Username" style="position:relative;right:22q">Blaze Wolf#0001</sub> 18:47, 20 September 2021 (UTC)
:{{ec}}{{U|TipsyElephant}}, as for your other question: It's completely fine to both ask and answer questions here at Teahouse. The one thing I would advise, however, is to chime in when you are sure about the answer to someone's question. We don't want to be providing people with information that may be inaccurate. [[User:Bkissin|Bkissin]] ([[User talk:Bkissin|talk]]) 18:46, 20 September 2021 (UTC)

== Changing name of a page: [[Cellink]] ==

CELLINK recently went through a corporate transformation where their name was changed to BICO. I would like to change the name of the page to BICO, could you advise me on how this can be achieved?&nbsp;[[User:Aviminocha|Aviminocha]] ([[User talk:Aviminocha|talk]]) 20:44, 20 September 2021 (UTC)
:{{u|Aviminocha}} Hello and welcome to the Teahouse. You may request a page move at [[WP:RM|Requested Moves]]. If you work for the company, you must make a formal declaration, please see [[WP:PAID|the paid editing policy]]. [[User:331dot|331dot]] ([[User talk:331dot|talk]]) 20:47, 20 September 2021 (UTC)

== Long history of deleting properly sourced information from BLP? ==

The page on W. Brett Wilson has an [[https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=W._Brett_Wilson&action=history| extensive history]] of removal of properly sourced references to controversial statements which have been widely reported in reputable news sources. In particular, I note that [[https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=W._Brett_Wilson&oldid=1042962737| one IP]] has a long history of deleting content about the subject's well-documented controversial statements with comments which seem inaccurate (based on the proper citation of sources and other BLP guidelines) like "Defamation" and "Biased", but most often no comment is left at all.

The content which is removed seems to have been added by numerous editors over time, while most of the large deletions of content appears to be done by that one IP address.

What is the best way to ensure this page maintains its integrity and avoid edit warring? I had reached out to the IP address, but subsequently noted its long history of deleting content with little or no comment.&nbsp;[[User:FActivist|FActivist]] ([[User talk:FActivist|talk]]) 21:06, 20 September 2021 (UTC)
: It looks like the vandalism is somewhat infrequent, at least relatively. You could try a [[Wikipedia:Requests_for_page_protection|Request for Protection]], if it continues. Others may have a different take, though. [[User:Pyrrho the Skeptic|Pyrrho the Skeptic]] ([[User talk:Pyrrho the Skeptic|talk]]) 21:21, 20 September 2021 (UTC)
::Hello, {{u|FActivist}}. Since one IP editor has been responsible for most of the disruption, I have blocked that person from editing the article for one year. [[User:Cullen328|<b style="color:#070">Cullen</b><sup style="color:#707">328</sup>]] [[User talk:Cullen328|<span style="color:#00F">''Let's discuss it''</span>]] 23:11, 20 September 2021 (UTC)
:::Thanks, [[User:Cullen328|Cullen]] - that seems like a reasonable action. Also thanks {{u|Pyrrho the Skeptic}} for your input, it is appreciated also. [[User:FActivist|FActivist]] ([[User talk:FActivist|talk]]) 21:32, 21 September 2021 (UTC)

==New editor says "Hi!"==
Hi! &nbsp;[[User:Mohammed12313893|Mohammed12313893]] ([[User talk:Mohammed12313893|talk]]) 21:59, 20 September 2021 (UTC)
:{{Ping|Mohammed12313893}} Hello! Did you have a question or did you just want to say hi? ― [[User:Blaze The Wolf|<b style="background:#0d1125;color:#51aeff;padding:1q;border-radius:5q">Blaze The Wolf</b>]][[User talk:Blaze The Wolf|<sup>Talk</sup>]]<sub title="Discord Username" style="position:relative;right:22q">Blaze Wolf#0001</sub> 02:23, 21 September 2021 (UTC)

== kelvite sounding machine ==

The workings of the kelvite sounding machine(sea depth below a ship).
https://sgmuseum.gs/wp-content/uploads/2021/09/The-Illustrated-London-News-17-sept-2021_2000px.jpg
Used by Sir Ernest Shackleton and his last expedition.
https://sgmuseum.gs/the-ship/

It is facinating to read how it works and I would consider very important naval device.
It would be wonderful for somone to write an entry on this.

http://www.gorchfock.net/db/db-03/kelvin.html
http://www.godfreydykes.info/KELVITE%20SOUNDING%20MACHINE%20-%20PART%201.pdf

Also an entry in the Royal Museum of Greenwich of how it was to be used.

https://www.rmg.co.uk/collections/objects/rmgc-object-42898&nbsp;[[User:Mr justmehere|Mr justmehere]] ([[User talk:Mr justmehere|talk]]) 22:13, 20 September 2021 (UTC)

:[[User:Mr justmehere|Mr justmehere]], after you've practised improving existing articles, this could be [[Help:Your first article|the first article that you start]]. -- [[User:Hoary|Hoary]] ([[User talk:Hoary|talk]]) 23:03, 20 September 2021 (UTC)

::{{reply|Mr justmehere}} I am not sure if there's enough reliable source coverage for a stand-alone article. The device is mentioned in the article on [[Kelvin Hughes]] (which needs a lot of work), so maybe more information can be added there. ~[[User:Anachronist|Anachronist]] <small>([[User talk:Anachronist|talk]])</small> 23:58, 20 September 2021 (UTC)

== Question ==
Question&nbsp;[[User:Bakbak13|Bakbak13]] ([[User talk:Bakbak13|talk]]) 01:19, 21 September 2021 (UTC)
What is the informational box on the right of article called and how do I create one?
:{{ping|Bakbak13}} Welcome to the Teahouse! The informational box is called an [[Help:Infobox|infobox]]. You can create an infobox by adding the appropriate template to an article (usually at the top). For example, ''[[Pittsburgh Quarterly]]'' uses {{tl|Infobox magazine}}, ''[[The Sopranos]]'' uses {{tl|Infobox television}}, [[Paul Rudd]] uses {{tl|Infobox person}}, and [[The Wallflower (manga)|''The Wallflower'' (manga)]] uses a series of {{tl|Infobox animanga}} templates. Each template has documentation to show you how to fill out the appropriate parameters to display the relevant information. Hope this helps, and happy editing! [[User:GoingBatty|GoingBatty]] ([[User talk:GoingBatty|talk]]) 03:08, 21 September 2021 (UTC)

== Redirect Talk Pages ==

If I added a WikiProject banner to a redirect talk page is it better to include "class=redirect" or to leave it blank so that it automatically detects that it is a redirect. Also, should I always include [[Template:Talk page of redirect]] when I create a talk page for a redirect or are there instances where I should not include the template?&nbsp;[[User:TipsyElephant|TipsyElephant]] ([[User talk:TipsyElephant|talk]]) 01:54, 21 September 2021 (UTC)

:{{ping|TipsyElephant}} Why are you creating a talk page on a redirect in the first place? I don't really see any reason you would do this but I could be wrong. ― [[User:Blaze The Wolf|<b style="background:#0d1125;color:#51aeff;padding:1q;border-radius:5q">Blaze The Wolf</b>]][[User talk:Blaze The Wolf|<sup>Talk</sup>]]<sub title="Discord Username" style="position:relative;right:22q">Blaze Wolf#0001</sub> 02:24, 21 September 2021 (UTC)
::{{re|Blaze The Wolf}} I added the Wikiproject banner to a redirect page so that it could be found at the WikiProject in the "Redirect" section of the "articles by quality and importance" table. I figured it would be helpful if someone was looking for potential pages that could be created or something along those lines. I didn't think it would necessarily be super helpful, but it's one of those maintenance things I can pretty easily do from my phone. [[User:TipsyElephant|TipsyElephant]] ([[User talk:TipsyElephant|talk]]) 16:00, 21 September 2021 (UTC)
::For instance, there is a redirect for [[Hidden Brain]] and I'm working on a draft [[Draft:Hidden Brain]]. [[User:TipsyElephant|TipsyElephant]] ([[User talk:TipsyElephant|talk]]) 16:47, 21 September 2021 (UTC)
:::Makes sense. Although others have pointed out it's not really a good use of time. ― [[User:Blaze The Wolf|<b style="background:#0d1125;color:#51aeff;padding:1q;border-radius:5q">Blaze The Wolf</b>]][[User talk:Blaze The Wolf|<sup>Talk</sup>]]<sub title="Discord Username" style="position:relative;right:22q">Blaze Wolf#0001</sub> 16:03, 21 September 2021 (UTC)
::There could be some reasons, one that comes to mind may be to hold record of an AFD which was to redirect to a certain target and allowing the history to be preserved, but generally redirects don't need to have a talk page. [[User:Mcmatter|McMatter]] <sup>([[User talk:Mcmatter|talk]])</sup>/<sub>([[Special:Contributions/Mcmatter|contrib]])</sub> 02:27, 21 September 2021 (UTC)
:{{ping|TipsyElephant}} To answer your questions: 1.) Leaving it blank is fine, if not preferred, as if it ever becomes something other than a redirect it wouldn't be classified wrong. 2.) It doesn't hurt to do it, but it's fine without it. But as others have pointed out, creating talk pages of redirects is really not a great use of your time around here. [[User:Ganbaruby|<span style="color:#960596">◢</span> <b><i style="background-color:#F7E3F7; color:#960596"> Ganbaruby! </i></b>]] <small>([[User talk:Ganbaruby|talk]])</small> 04:56, 21 September 2021 (UTC)

== Shammi Rana Page ==

I am trying to establish a page for Mr. Shammi Rana and I need help with this, so please guide me&nbsp;[[User:Happybusan|Happybusan]] ([[User talk:Happybusan|talk]]) 03:28, 21 September 2021 (UTC)
:{{ping|Happybusan}} Welcome to the Teahouse! Another editor already suggested that you read [[Help:Referencing for beginners]]. You could try [[Help:Footnotes]] as well. Happy editing! [[User:GoingBatty|GoingBatty]] ([[User talk:GoingBatty|talk]]) 03:41, 21 September 2021 (UTC)

== Is there a reference threshold to validate Papua New Guinean related articles? ==

Papua New Guinea is still lacking a much needed online presence, many significant and relevant subjects missing from wikipedia due to lack of online news or digital academic groups/hubs. I've recently attempted to write an article on "Wan Kantri" - the 'Waltzing Matilda' of Papua New Guinea. In spite it being sung all over the country and various places around the world, I am concerned the article lacks enough references (or even what wikipedia may regard as valid references) to be regarded a valid entry. There is such a need for businesses and communities to access this information so schools and businesses can remain informed on modern developments across their country.

I would love this to be reviewed and have any suggestions how such articles can be written or validated to improve wikipedia reach among Papua New Guineans and the West Pacific.

[[User:Pnginitiator|Pnginitiator]] ([[User talk:Pnginitiator|talk]]) 04:35, 21 September 2021 (UTC)&nbsp;[[User:Pnginitiator|Pnginitiator]] ([[User talk:Pnginitiator|talk]]) 04:35, 21 September 2021 (UTC)
:{{u|Pnginitiator}}, the question of inclusion guidelines for underrepresented regions is complicated, but I'll skip ahead to the good news: looking on Google Books, I was able to find some promising results [https://www.google.com/search?q=%22song%22+%22wan+kantri%22&tbm=bks&sxsrf=AOaemvL41ipTLHYcPzMEuZ1dgFmHBp9MnA%3A1632199637555&ei=1WNJYfaKIcfi5NoPn4uywAQ&oq=%22song%22+%22wan+kantri%22&gs_l=psy-ab.3...1937.2109.0.2735.2.2.0.0.0.0.80.141.2.2.0....0...1c.1.64.psy-ab..0.0.0....0.0p9gS4sxQy4] that should likely be enough to establish that the subject meets [[WP:N|notability guidelines]]. Now, as far as inclusion criteria go, while articles are generally expected to meet the [[WP:GNG|general notability guide]], we also accept articles about topics where sufficient sources are not available on hand but are highly likely to exist ([[WP:NPOSSIBLE]]). As far as what you can do to help, a stepping stone that would make the editing community more aware of PNG would be if you could help contribute articles about [[WP:RS|reliable sources]] from PNG (or that write about PNG), as this would vastly improve editors' ability to recognize usable sources from the country. <sub>signed, </sub>[[User:Rosguill|'''''Rosguill''''']] <sup>[[User talk:Rosguill|''talk'']]</sup> 04:50, 21 September 2021 (UTC)

== Help Me ==

&nbsp;[[User:Yomamajoy|Yomamajoy]] ([[User talk:Yomamajoy|talk]]) 04:50, 21 September 2021 (UTC)
: Hello {{u|Yomamajoy}}, what do you need help with? Be specific. [[User:Ganbaruby|<span style="color:#960596">◢</span> <b><i style="background-color:#F7E3F7; color:#960596"> Ganbaruby! </i></b>]] <small>([[User talk:Ganbaruby|talk]])</small> 04:53, 21 September 2021 (UTC)
::Your draft [[User:Yomamajoy/sandbox/VA-AV Comedy]] has no potential to becoming an article because the person does not meet Wikipedia's criteria for notability. Give up. [[Special:Contributions/157.157.65.34|157.157.65.34]] ([[User talk:157.157.65.34|talk]]) 16:08, 21 September 2021 (UTC)
:::Don't tell them to give up! Just because 1 thing doesn't have potential doesn't mean that they should just give up all together. ― [[User:Blaze The Wolf|<b style="background:#0d1125;color:#51aeff;padding:1q;border-radius:5q">Blaze The Wolf</b>]][[User talk:Blaze The Wolf|<sup>Talk</sup>]]<sub title="Discord Username" style="position:relative;right:22q">Blaze Wolf#0001</sub> 16:09, 21 September 2021 (UTC)

== On the quality scale, what class would be [[Martine Vassal|this article]]? ==

By the number of citations, I think C-class, but by the size of the article, I think it'll come under Start Class. What would it be?&nbsp;[[User:Excellenc1|<span style="background:#58111A; color:#FFA700; padding:5px;">'''''Excellenc1'''''</span>]] (''[[User talk:Excellenc1|<b style="color:#C32148">talk</b>]]'') 05:12, 21 September 2021 (UTC)

:There's no question of it being "Good", let alone "A" or "Featured"; and it hasn't been attached to any WikiProject. So I suspect that nobody other than you cares about the class of such an article. What you might do is (i) attach it (via its talk page, of course) to one or more relevant WikiProject (this in itself would be beneficial), and then, if you're still interested, (ii) ask at the talk page of that WikiProject (or the talk pages of those WikiProjects). -- [[User:Hoary|Hoary]] ([[User talk:Hoary|talk]]) 05:33, 21 September 2021 (UTC)
:: {{ping|Excellenc1}} When I create an article, I usually tag the WikiProjects and let other people assess its class. Don't stress out about this; the only two classes that really ''matter'' are "Good" and "Featured" anyways.[[User:Ganbaruby|<span style="color:#960596">◢</span> <b><i style="background-color:#F7E3F7; color:#960596"> Ganbaruby! </i></b>]] <small>([[User talk:Ganbaruby|talk]])</small> 05:56, 21 September 2021 (UTC)
:{{ping|Excellenc1}} I added the WikiProjects for you. Happy editing! [[User:GoingBatty|GoingBatty]] ([[User talk:GoingBatty|talk]]) 06:06, 21 September 2021 (UTC)

Thank you {{u|GoingBatty}}. [[User:Excellenc1|<span style="background:#58111A; color:#FFA700; padding:5px;">'''''Excellenc1'''''</span>]] (''[[User talk:Excellenc1|<b style="color:#C32148">talk</b>]]'') 09:32, 21 September 2021 (UTC)

==Edit extended-protected==

I want to add my 4-5 research articles on SARS-CoV-2 on SARS-CoV-2 wiki page but I am unable to add articles data&nbsp;[[User:Rahulbioinfowiki|Rahulbioinfowiki]] ([[User talk:Rahulbioinfowiki|talk]]) 06:49, 21 September 2021 (UTC)
: Hi {{u|Rahulbioinfowiki}}. Articles are usually [[:WP:PP|protected]] when there's a very good reason to do so. There a various different levels of protection, and "Externded confirmed protection" is explained [[:WP:ECP|here]]. If you want to edit a particular article and are unable to do so because it's protected, you can always make an [[:WP:ER|edit request]] on the article's talk page. Just make sure you make your request as clear and easy to understand as possible and also make sure that your request complies with relevant Wikipedia policies and guidelines. In this case, you might want to look at [[:WP:CITESELF]], [[:WP:SCHOLARSHIP]] and [[:WP:MEDRS]] to make sure the sources you want to cite are appropariate for Wikipedia before actually making your edit request. -- [[User:Marchjuly|Marchjuly]] ([[User talk:Marchjuly|talk]]) 07:22, 21 September 2021 (UTC)
::And what is more, {{u|Rahulbioinfowiki}}, Wikipedia is not a place to post your [[WP:OR|original research]]. We consider your attempt to republish your work on Wikipedia to be spamming. Further, you do not own the copyright to your publications with Elsevier. Elsevier owns the copyright, even if you paid them to publish your work. Even if the journal is open access. And, very few of your edits were [[WP:MINOR|"minor"]] edits, so marking them all as minor was a mistake. I will have to ask at [[WP:AN|the admin noticeboard]] to have your copyright-violating edits [[WP:REVDEL|revision deleted]]--[[User:Quisqualis|Quisqualis]] ([[User talk:Quisqualis|talk]]) 08:18, 21 September 2021 (UTC)

== I found a minor typo ==

Where do I request edits for articles when I don't have permission to directly edit them?
I found a typo in the page [[Artificial intelligence]] under Statistical AI: "By 2000, solutions developed by Ai researchers...".
I just want to capitalize the I in AI so I created an account and have waited 4 days, but it still seems like I don't have permission yet... what do I do?&nbsp;[[User:BenjaminVincentCho|BenjaminVincentCho]] ([[User talk:BenjaminVincentCho|talk]]) 07:35, 21 September 2021 (UTC)
:Hello, {{u|BenjaminVincentCho}}. Make an [[WP:ER|edit request]] at [[Talk: Artificial intelligence]]. You need to have four days ''and'' ten edits to edit semi-protected pages. Welcome to Wikipedia! [[User:Cullen328|<b style="color:#070">Cullen</b><sup style="color:#707">328</sup>]] [[User talk:Cullen328|<span style="color:#00F">''Let's discuss it''</span>]] 07:40, 21 September 2021 (UTC)
::Thanks! I followed the link, and hopefully I did it correctly. [[User:BenjaminVincentCho|BenjaminVincentCho]] ([[User talk:BenjaminVincentCho|talk]]) 08:00, 21 September 2021 (UTC)
:::I've made the change for you, but I can't figure out how to change the answered parameter to "yes" so if anyone could help me that would be appreciated :) [[User:PrincessPersnickety|<span style="color: purple">'''Princess Persnickety'''</span>]] [[User talk:PrincessPersnickety|<span style="color: darkblue">(talk)</span>]] 08:32, 21 September 2021 (UTC)
::::{{ping|PrincessPersnickety}} You change the answered parameter to "yes" with {{diff2|1045577210|an edit like this}}, thanks to {{U|Victor Schmidt}}. Happy editing! [[User:GoingBatty|GoingBatty]] ([[User talk:GoingBatty|talk]]) 13:10, 21 September 2021 (UTC)
:::::Thank you {{u|GoingBatty}}, that's very helpful. [[User:PrincessPersnickety|<span style="color: purple">'''Princess Persnickety'''</span>]] [[User talk:PrincessPersnickety|<span style="color: darkblue">(talk)</span>]] 13:14, 21 September 2021 (UTC)
::::::{{ping|PrincessPersnickety}} There's also a user script that allows you to do it semi-automatically. (don't remember where it's located though) ― [[User:Blaze The Wolf|<b style="background:#0d1125;color:#51aeff;padding:1q;border-radius:5q">Blaze The Wolf</b>]][[User talk:Blaze The Wolf|<sup>Talk</sup>]]<sub title="Discord Username" style="position:relative;right:22q">Blaze Wolf#0001</sub> 13:42, 21 September 2021 (UTC)
:::::::{{re|PrincessPersnickety|Blaze The Wolf}} Its this one: [[User:Jackmcbarn/editProtectedHelper.js]]. To load it, you would insert something like this into [[Special:MyPage/common.js|your common.js]]:
<syntaxhighlight lang="js">
mw.loader.load("https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Jackmcbarn/editProtectedHelper.js&action=raw&ctype=text/javascript"); //Backlink: [[User:Jackmcbarn/editProtectedHelper.js]]
</syntaxhighlight>
:::::::See also {{tlx|load user script}}, which can be used to create the URL paths for a given JS file automatically. [[User:Victor Schmidt|Victor Schmidt]] ([[User talk:Victor Schmidt|talk]]) 14:39, 21 September 2021 (UTC)
::::::::{{ping|Victor Schmidt}} Thank you! I already have it in my common.js, I just couldn't remember where someone could find it. ― [[User:Blaze The Wolf|<b style="background:#0d1125;color:#51aeff;padding:1q;border-radius:5q">Blaze The Wolf</b>]][[User talk:Blaze The Wolf|<sup>Talk</sup>]]<sub title="Discord Username" style="position:relative;right:22q">Blaze Wolf#0001</sub> 14:43, 21 September 2021 (UTC)
::::::::::Thank you {{u|VictorSchmidt}}, I will have a play. [[User:PrincessPersnickety|<span style="color: purple">'''Princess Persnickety'''</span>]] [[User talk:PrincessPersnickety|<span style="color: darkblue">(talk)</span>]] 18:52, 21 September 2021 (UTC)

== creating Disambiguation page ==

create sub page of my username and use <code><nowiki>{{subst:submit}}</nowiki></code> on top, names of persons with text: "person may refer to:" and <code><nowiki>{{human name disambiguation}}</nowiki></code> at bottom. [[Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Disambiguation pages]] clearly states the number of persons must be three or or more and text to use on it. should i go ahead and create or am i missing anything?&nbsp;[[User:Ashtamatrikas|<span style="background-color:#eeff1b">— ashtamatrikas</span>]] ([[User talk:Ashtamatrikas|<span style="color:purple">talk</span>]] • [[Special:Contributions/Ashtamatrikas|contrib]] • [[Special:Log/Ashtamatrikas|actions]]) 09:37, 21 September 2021 (UTC)
:{{re|Ashtamatrikas}} - If you are talking about disambiguating three or more people with the same name you should create the page directly under the format of "forename surname (disambiguation)". [[User:Mjroots|Mjroots]] ([[User talk:Mjroots|talk]]) 10:09, 21 September 2021 (UTC)
::{{yo|Mjroots}} done. i hope i have done correctly at [[User:Ashtamatrikas/Draft:Margaret Harrison (disambiguation)]][[User:Ashtamatrikas|<span style="background-color:#eeff1b">— ashtamatrikas</span>]] ([[User talk:Ashtamatrikas|<span style="color:purple">talk</span>]] • [[Special:Contributions/Ashtamatrikas|contrib]] • [[Special:Log/Ashtamatrikas|actions]]) 11:03, 21 September 2021 (UTC)
:::{{re|Ashtamatrikas}} - would you like the draft page deleted? [[User:Mjroots|Mjroots]] ([[User talk:Mjroots|talk]]) 12:14, 21 September 2021 (UTC)
::::{{u|Mjroots}} yes, please delete it. [[User:Ashtamatrikas|<span style="background-color:#eeff1b">— ashtamatrikas</span>]] ([[User talk:Ashtamatrikas|<span style="color:purple">talk</span>]] • [[Special:Contributions/Ashtamatrikas|contrib]] • [[Special:Log/Ashtamatrikas|actions]]) 12:39, 21 September 2021 (UTC)
:::::{{u|Mjroots}} in future i can also place <code><nowiki>{{db-g7}}</nowiki></code> or <code><nowiki>{{db-u1}}</nowiki></code> on the top of my draft page after it is moved. probably it will save time for admins. [[User:Ashtamatrikas|<span style="background-color:#eeff1b">— ashtamatrikas</span>]] ([[User talk:Ashtamatrikas|<span style="color:purple">talk</span>]] • [[Special:Contributions/Ashtamatrikas|contrib]] • [[Special:Log/Ashtamatrikas|actions]]) 15:48, 21 September 2021 (UTC)
::::::{{u|Ashtamatrikas}} yes, or an admin can suppress the creation of a redirect on moving a draft. Alternative, with disambiguation pages, you can create them directly in article space without causing too much work for editors to clean up. Articles are different, and best created as sandbox/draft articles until you get the hang of it. [[User:Mjroots|Mjroots]] ([[User talk:Mjroots|talk]]) 15:56, 21 September 2021 (UTC)
:::::::{{u|Mjroots}} i will create subsequent disambiguation pages in article space. thanks for suggestion. [[User:Ashtamatrikas|<span style="background-color:#eeff1b">— ashtamatrikas</span>]] ([[User talk:Ashtamatrikas|<span style="color:purple">talk</span>]] • [[Special:Contributions/Ashtamatrikas|contrib]] • [[Special:Log/Ashtamatrikas|actions]]) 16:13, 21 September 2021 (UTC)

== Difference between "Article" and "page" ==

Hello! So I just thought about this but what is the real difference between an article and a page? I usually use the terms interchangeably since to me they mean the same thing. But I want to know what the real difference between the two is.&nbsp;― [[User:Blaze The Wolf|<b style="background:#0d1125;color:#51aeff;padding:1q;border-radius:5q">Blaze The Wolf</b>]][[User talk:Blaze The Wolf|<sup>Talk</sup>]]<sub title="Discord Username" style="position:relative;right:22q">Blaze Wolf#0001</sub> 13:11, 21 September 2021 (UTC)
: An article is part of the encyclopaedia itself, and is in the article or main [[Wikipedia:namespace|namespace]]. Pages can be in any namespace, with the other namespaces being there for various aspects of the administration of the project. --[[User:David Biddulph|David Biddulph]] ([[User talk:David Biddulph|talk]]) 13:36, 21 September 2021 (UTC)
:(e/c)All articles are pages (according to Wikipedia, though many editors seem not to like to refer to articles as pages) but not all pages are articles. See for example [[Wikipedia:Glossary#P]], [[WP:PAGE]], and [[Wikipedia:What is an article?]].--[[User:Shantavira|Shantavira]]|[[User talk:Shantavira|<sup>feed me</sup>]] 13:37, 21 September 2021 (UTC)
::Ah ok thank you. Good to know that I"m not wrong using them interchangeably. ― [[User:Blaze The Wolf|<b style="background:#0d1125;color:#51aeff;padding:1q;border-radius:5q">Blaze The Wolf</b>]][[User talk:Blaze The Wolf|<sup>Talk</sup>]]<sub title="Discord Username" style="position:relative;right:22q">Blaze Wolf#0001</sub> 13:41, 21 September 2021 (UTC)
::: They are '''NOT''' interchangeable. An article is one type of page. A page is not necessarily an article. - [[User:David Biddulph|David Biddulph]] ([[User talk:David Biddulph|talk]]) 14:11, 21 September 2021 (UTC)
::::Huh? BUt what I"m being told tells me that as long as you're referring to something in the article or main namespace it's fine. ― [[User:Blaze The Wolf|<b style="background:#0d1125;color:#51aeff;padding:1q;border-radius:5q">Blaze The Wolf</b>]][[User talk:Blaze The Wolf|<sup>Talk</sup>]]<sub title="Discord Username" style="position:relative;right:22q">Blaze Wolf#0001</sub> 14:20, 21 September 2021 (UTC)
::::: If you are referring to an article it is not strictly incorrect to refer to it a page, though that is an ambiguous term. If you are referring to another type of page, it would be incorrect to refer to it as an article, so (as I said) the terms are '''NOT''' interchangeable. --[[User:David Biddulph|David Biddulph]] ([[User talk:David Biddulph|talk]]) 14:31, 21 September 2021 (UTC)
::::::Ah ok. So they are partially interchangeable, it's simply just situational as to whether or not they are. ― [[User:Blaze The Wolf|<b style="background:#0d1125;color:#51aeff;padding:1q;border-radius:5q">Blaze The Wolf</b>]][[User talk:Blaze The Wolf|<sup>Talk</sup>]]<sub title="Discord Username" style="position:relative;right:22q">Blaze Wolf#0001</sub> 14:34, 21 September 2021 (UTC)
:::::::{{U|Blaze The Wolf}}, when somebody refers to an encyclopaedia article as a "page" (especially if they talk about "a page for X" or "X's page") it suggests to me that they do not understand what Wikipedia is, and think it is like social media. --[[User:ColinFine|ColinFine]] ([[User talk:ColinFine|talk]]) 14:39, 21 September 2021 (UTC)
::::::::Makes sense. When I say "page" in my mind I'm really just referring to a web page (which is what wikipedia is, along with other websites, web pages) and I'm almost never talking about social media (since then I would be saying things like "post" which sections on talk pages technically are, however most of the time it's not really treated like a social media post). ― [[User:Blaze The Wolf|<b style="background:#0d1125;color:#51aeff;padding:1q;border-radius:5q">Blaze The Wolf</b>]][[User talk:Blaze The Wolf|<sup>Talk</sup>]]<sub title="Discord Username" style="position:relative;right:22q">Blaze Wolf#0001</sub> 14:42, 21 September 2021 (UTC)
:::::::::{{ping|Blaze The Wolf}} All poodles are dogs, but not all dogs are poodles. Similarly, all articles are pages, but not all pages are articles. Hope this helps! [[User:GoingBatty|GoingBatty]] ([[User talk:GoingBatty|talk]]) 16:23, 21 September 2021 (UTC)
::::::::::Yep I was going to say that myself in response to one of these comments, however it's really already been stated. ― [[User:Blaze The Wolf|<b style="background:#0d1125;color:#51aeff;padding:1q;border-radius:5q">Blaze The Wolf</b>]][[User talk:Blaze The Wolf|<sup>Talk</sup>]]<sub title="Discord Username" style="position:relative;right:22q">Blaze Wolf#0001</sub> 16:26, 21 September 2021 (UTC)

==Declined draft==

Hi my post was declined because of lack of reliable sources. I included three sources...really the only sources that I could find on the Company and Product. These sources were from the Company's website.
Ty.&nbsp;[[User:Tfalfano|Tfalfano]] ([[User talk:Tfalfano|talk]]) 14:04, 21 September 2021 (UTC)
: So what is your question? If there are no [[WP:reliable sources|reliable sources]] independent of the subject, there can be no article. --[[User:David Biddulph|David Biddulph]] ([[User talk:David Biddulph|talk]]) 14:13, 21 September 2021 (UTC)
:Our policy requires third party sources. This means that the company is probably not notable for inclusion in Wikipedia. [[User:Ruslik0|Ruslik]]_[[User Talk:Ruslik0|<span style="color:red">Zero</span>]] 14:19, 21 September 2021 (UTC)
:{{U|Tfalfano}}, please understand that {{HD/WINI}} --[[User:ColinFine|ColinFine]] ([[User talk:ColinFine|talk]]) 14:40, 21 September 2021 (UTC)

== Help removing flags ==

Hi, We are aiming to update the Dassault Systemes page in order to have this tag removed: This article relies too much on references to primary sources. (June 2016)

We've done the research to obtain 3rd party sources and proposed changes on the Talk page here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Dassault_Syst%C3%A8mes. We'd like to know if it's OK for me to make these changes or if an editor can assist.

Thank you.&nbsp;[[User:3DS Patrick|3DS Patrick]] ([[User talk:3DS Patrick|talk]]) 15:16, 21 September 2021 (UTC)

:{{ping|3DS Patrick}} You saying "we" makes me think that your account is a shared account, which is not allowed per Wikipedia's policies. Also, if you've proposed the changes then you will have to wait for another editor to make sure they are good to be added. ― [[User:Blaze The Wolf|<b style="background:#0d1125;color:#51aeff;padding:1q;border-radius:5q">Blaze The Wolf</b>]][[User talk:Blaze The Wolf|<sup>Talk</sup>]]<sub title="Discord Username" style="position:relative;right:22q">Blaze Wolf#0001</sub> 15:19, 21 September 2021 (UTC)
::The account states that it belongs to an Employee of [[Dassault Systèmes]], breaching [[Wikipedia:Conflict of interest|WP:COI]] and [[Wikipedia:Neutral point of view|WP:POV]] <sub>Signed,</sub>'''''[[User:Pichemist|Pichemist]]'' <sup>([[User talk:Benjamin Borg|Talk]])</sup>''' 16:00, 21 September 2021 (UTC)
::: Disclosing the COI on the user page is required, and the username itself is ambiguous enough to not be promotional, I think. [[User:Pyrrho the Skeptic|Pyrrho the Skeptic]] ([[User talk:Pyrrho the Skeptic|talk]]) 16:11, 21 September 2021 (UTC)

:::{{U|Pichemist}}, that is a very combative way of interacting, and in particular the OP has properly requested changes on the talk page, so POV doesn't arise. Please [[WP:AGF|AGF]]. {{U|3DS Patrick}}, thank you for disclosing your status on your user page: [[WP:PAID]] recommends that you use the template {{tl|paid}} to do this. Thank you for wanting to improve the article (Wikipedia would like all its articles to be properly referenced, though it does not have much interest in whether this will benefit the subject of the article or not), and also for proposing changes on the talk page rather than directly editing the article. In future, I suggest you use the {{tl|edit request}} template on the talk page: that will put your request on a list of such requests, so that editors who look at that list will see it and you won't need to ask here. --[[User:ColinFine|ColinFine]] ([[User talk:ColinFine|talk]]) 16:19, 21 September 2021 (UTC)

== Two questions. ==

1. If I'm citing a newspaper/website article with a typo in the title, should I fix the typo when citing or leave it as it is?<br>
2. If I have an old picture, say, 1940s, with an unknown copyright status, am I allowed to take an image of that picture and upload it to Wikipedia?<br>Thanks.&nbsp;[[User:BeanieFan11|BeanieFan11]] ([[User talk:BeanieFan11|talk]]) 16:38, 21 September 2021 (UTC)
: {{re|BeanieFan11}} Welcome to Wikipedia. For (1) cite it as is, but you can put (sic) to indicate the typo is in the source. For (2), ask at [[WP:MCQ]], copyright law is not simple unfortunately and the experts there can provide guidance. [[User:RudolfRed|RudolfRed]] ([[User talk:RudolfRed|talk]]) 16:56, 21 September 2021 (UTC)

== How to handle name variations ==

I am working on a [[User:SanVeneto/sandbox|draft of an athlete]] and the subject has a birthname, playing name, and now a married name. How is all that formatted correctly? Or do I use the playing name and let the rest show in an infobox? TIA&nbsp;[[User:SanVeneto|SanVeneto]] ([[User talk:SanVeneto|talk]]) 16:45, 21 September 2021 (UTC)
: {{re|SanVeneto}} Welcome to Wikipedia, and thanks for working to improve it. The article title would be the common name for the person, and the lede could say what the birth name is. See [[Madonna]] as an example. [[User:RudolfRed|RudolfRed]] ([[User talk:RudolfRed|talk]]) 16:54, 21 September 2021 (UTC)
:@[[User:SanVeneto|SanVeneto]] You can find more info at [[MOS:CHANGEDNAME]]. [[User:Eevee01|<b style="color:DarkTurquoise; font-weight: bold; font-family:cambria">Eevee01</b>]]<sup>([[User talk:Eevee01|<b style="color:#40E0D0; font-style: italic">talk</b>]])</sup> 18:19, 21 September 2021 (UTC)

== Thank you for the invite to Tea House ==

Thank you once again for the Invite, how can we make group in order to write about the bilateral coordination between the two powerful nations?
&nbsp;[[User:Indoitaly|Indoitaly]] ([[User talk:Indoitaly|talk]]) 16:50, 21 September 2021 (UTC)
:{{ping|Indoitaly}} Welcome to the Teahouse! The place to discuss suggestions to improve the [[India–Italy relations]] article is [[Talk:India–Italy relations]]. There are three existing WikiProject groups on the top of that talk page. Hope this helps, and happy editing! [[User:GoingBatty|GoingBatty]] ([[User talk:GoingBatty|talk]]) 16:55, 21 September 2021 (UTC)

== inserting photos ==

I have tried adding photos, that I took myself, to my article, but every time Wikipedia will not allow it. There is always some message that says they don't know if it is a proper source and recommend I use my own photos...which is what I have been trying to do. How do I insert photos? &nbsp;[[User:Escooter21|Escooter21]] ([[User talk:Escooter21|talk]]) 17:14, 21 September 2021 (UTC)
:Hello, {{U|Escooter21}}, and welcome to the Teahouse. I can't find anywhere that you have tried to upload photos: how have you tried to do it? I suggest using the [[WP:upload wizard|upload wizard]]: if you took the photos, you shouldn't have any difficulty doing so. When you have successfully uploaded them, then you can add them to articles. --[[User:ColinFine|ColinFine]] ([[User talk:ColinFine|talk]]) 17:38, 21 September 2021 (UTC)
::{{re|ColinFine}} whenever someone mentions that they failed to upload a photo, I have a look at [[:c:Special:AbuseLog|the commons Abuse log]], since most often the source of the problem is their [[:c:Special:AbuseFilter/153|Filter #153, better known by his description, Crosswiki upload filter]]. {{u|Escooter21}} Assuming you hold the copyright of these images (which usally means that you took them yourself, ''not just downloaded from some website''), please upload them using [[:c:Special:UploadWizard|the Upload Wikzard over at our Media Reprository Project]] called [[Wikimedia Commons]]. [[User:Victor Schmidt|Victor Schmidt]] ([[User talk:Victor Schmidt|talk]]) 18:48, 21 September 2021 (UTC)
:::First, work on getting your draft accepted. Photos do not contriburd to confirming notability. [[Special:Contributions/157.157.65.34|157.157.65.34]] ([[User talk:157.157.65.34|talk]]) 21:30, 21 September 2021 (UTC)

== Suggestbot leaving suggestions... in the archive? ==

Hello! So I recently decided to look in my talk page archive as I was going to create a section on my userpage dedicated to WikiLove when I noticed that SuggestBot was leaving the suggestions for me in my talk page archive. Anyone know why it's doing this?&nbsp;― [[User:Blaze The Wolf|<b style="background:#0d1125;color:#51aeff;padding:1q;border-radius:5q">Blaze The Wolf</b>]][[User talk:Blaze The Wolf|<sup>Talk</sup>]]<sub title="Discord Username" style="position:relative;right:22q">Blaze Wolf#0001</sub> 19:05, 21 September 2021 (UTC)
:There was a template there telling it to do so. Have removed it and re-added it to your talk page, which should cure the problem. [[User:Mjroots|Mjroots]] ([[User talk:Mjroots|talk]]) 19:14, 21 September 2021 (UTC)
::Ah ok thank you! I thought I had taken it out of my archive but I Guess not! ― [[User:Blaze The Wolf|<b style="background:#0d1125;color:#51aeff;padding:1q;border-radius:5q">Blaze The Wolf</b>]][[User talk:Blaze The Wolf|<sup>Talk</sup>]]<sub title="Discord Username" style="position:relative;right:22q">Blaze Wolf#0001</sub> 21:22, 21 September 2021 (UTC)

== Tracking Conversations in Article Talk Pages ==
Unlike front-facing article content, the talk pages of articles seem to have a more fast and loose formatting style, and it is proving a tricky eye strain to keep track of conversations I am having with other editors. Is there a tip and/or trick to keeping abreast of the discussions I am in without manually trawling through the whole talk page each time I refresh? - [[User:Personofcanada|Personofcanada]] ([[User talk:Personofcanada|talk]]) 19:45, 21 September 2021 (UTC)&nbsp;[[User:Personofcanada|Personofcanada]] ([[User talk:Personofcanada|talk]]) 19:45, 21 September 2021 (UTC)

:{{ping|Personofcanada}} Unfortunately I'm fairly sure there's no where to keep track of what point you are at in the discussion after reloading the page, unless there's something I'm not aware of. ― [[User:Blaze The Wolf|<b style="background:#0d1125;color:#51aeff;padding:1q;border-radius:5q">Blaze The Wolf</b>]][[User talk:Blaze The Wolf|<sup>Talk</sup>]]<sub title="Discord Username" style="position:relative;right:22q">Blaze Wolf#0001</sub> 19:47, 21 September 2021 (UTC)
:{{ping|Personofcanada}} Welcome to the Teahouse! I go to the "View history" page and select all the diffs marked "<font color=green>updated since your last visit</font>", and then click "Compare selected versions". Hope this helps, and happy editing! [[User:GoingBatty|GoingBatty]] ([[User talk:GoingBatty|talk]]) 19:54, 21 September 2021 (UTC)

:: I had at least hoped someone had come up with a personal shorthand of some kind. All I can think of is opening a desktop sticky note, and then pasting my last contribution in each conversation into it for CTRL+Fing my way back to each thread. Thanks. O
:: On an unrelated note, how do I make my username highlighted in cool colours like that? Is it all this textual junk: <code><nowiki>"<b style="background:#0d1125;color:#51aeff;padding:1q;border-radius:5q">" - </b></nowiki></code>[[User:Personofcanada|Personofcanada]] ([[User talk:Personofcanada|talk]]) 19:52, 21 September 2021 (UTC)
:::Ya pretty much. My signature was made by {{u|Levi_OP}} so if you want a cool signature like mine, I'm sure they'd be willing to help you out. ― [[User:Blaze The Wolf|<b style="background:#0d1125;color:#51aeff;padding:1q;border-radius:5q">Blaze The Wolf</b>]][[User talk:Blaze The Wolf|<sup>Talk</sup>]]<sub title="Discord Username" style="position:relative;right:22q">Blaze Wolf#0001</sub> 20:10, 21 September 2021 (UTC)
::::<small>{{ping|Personofcanada}} pinging ― [[User:Blaze The Wolf|<b style="background:#0d1125;color:#51aeff;padding:1q;border-radius:5q">Blaze The Wolf</b>]][[User talk:Blaze The Wolf|<sup>Talk</sup>]]<sub title="Discord Username" style="position:relative;right:22q">Blaze Wolf#0001</sub> 20:12, 21 September 2021 (UTC) </small>

== Update for the Actor Anthony J. Johnson. ==

Wikipedia is not showing him as having passed away. I included the links to the New York Times and CNN to show the validity of his passing




https://www.nytimes.com/2021/09/20/arts/anthony-johnson-dead.html~~

https://www.cnn.com/2021/09/20/entertainment/anthony-johnson-died/index.html
: [[Anthony_Johnson_(actor)]] article has been updated by another editor. [[User:RudolfRed|RudolfRed]] ([[User talk:RudolfRed|talk]]) 19:51, 21 September 2021 (UTC)

== i want to help?? ==

i want to help edit wikipedia but i don't know where i could help&nbsp;[[User:Sukunasleftnut|Sukunasleftnut]] ([[User talk:Sukunasleftnut|talk]]) 20:11, 21 September 2021 (UTC)
:{{re|Sukunasleftnut}} Hello and welcome to the Teahouse. The [[WP:Task center|Task center]] has some ideas. You can see in the right column who can/could do that particular thing. You most likely want to pick something tagged as Suitable for <b><span style="color:green">all editors</span></b> [[User:Victor Schmidt|Victor Schmidt]] ([[User talk:Victor Schmidt|talk]]) 20:27, 21 September 2021 (UTC)
::<small>I never knew the task center existed. I only knew that there was a list of things that can be done at the village pump. You taught me something.</small> ― [[User:Blaze The Wolf|<b style="background:#0d1125;color:#51aeff;padding:1q;border-radius:5q">Blaze The Wolf</b>]][[User talk:Blaze The Wolf|<sup>Talk</sup>]]<sub title="Discord Username" style="position:relative;right:22q">Blaze Wolf#0001</sub> 21:04, 21 September 2021 (UTC)
::: Also the "[[Wikipedia:Community_portal#Help_out|Help Out]]" section of the community portal. [[User:Pyrrho the Skeptic|Pyrrho the Skeptic]] ([[User talk:Pyrrho the Skeptic|talk]]) 21:07, 21 September 2021 (UTC)
::::That was what I mean when I was saying there was a list of things that can be done at the village pump. I confused the village pump with the community portal. ― [[User:Blaze The Wolf|<b style="background:#0d1125;color:#51aeff;padding:1q;border-radius:5q">Blaze The Wolf</b>]][[User talk:Blaze The Wolf|<sup>Talk</sup>]]<sub title="Discord Username" style="position:relative;right:22q">Blaze Wolf#0001</sub> 21:14, 21 September 2021 (UTC)

== Uploading Pictures of Art ==

I am trying to upload art made by Haukur Halldórsson with his permission to his profile but I keep getting denied.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haukur_Halld%C3%B3rsson
What to do?

Best
Kristjan Mar Hauksson&nbsp;[[User:Kristjanmar|Kristjanmar]] ([[User talk:Kristjanmar|talk]]) 20:29, 21 September 2021 (UTC)
:''You'' don't need the permission, ''Wikipedia'' does (as we're hosting the content), and we emphatically [[WP:NFCC|will not seek it]]. We also [[WP:NOT#SOCIAL|don't do profiles]], [[WP:Wikipedia is an encyclopaedia|we do encyclopaedia articles]]. —[[User:Jéské Couriano|<i style="color: #1E90FF;">A little blue Bori</i>]] [[User talk:Jéské Couriano|<span style="color: #228B22">v^_^v</span>]] <sup><small>[[Special:Contributions/Jéské Couriano|Jéské Couriano]]</small></sup> 20:33, 21 September 2021 (UTC)
:{{u|Kristjanmar}} (ec) Hello and welcome to the Teahouse. Wikipedia has '''articles''', not "profiles". Your account must be at least four days old before you can upload images even without the added issue of permission. As noted, the artist will need to give the permission themselves, please see [[WP:DCP]] for more information. He should be certain that he really wants to do that, as Wikipedia's license allows for reuse for any purpose, including commercial. [[User:331dot|331dot]] ([[User talk:331dot|talk]]) 20:35, 21 September 2021 (UTC)
:::(ec) Hello, {{u|Kristjanmar}}. There are several issues here. First of all, your account is not [[WP:AUTOCONFIRM|autoconfirmed]] yet, so you do not have the authority to upload. Secondly, Haukur Halldórsson is the copyright holder and his permission needs to be formal and in writing. Please see [[Wikipedia:Donating copyrighted materials]]. Also, the artist should fully understand the implications of free licensing. People could print posters, coffee mugs and postcards with these images without paying him or even asking for permission. They would just have to give him credit. [[User:Cullen328|<b style="color:#070">Cullen</b><sup style="color:#707">328</sup>]] [[User talk:Cullen328|<span style="color:#00F">''Let's discuss it''</span>]] 20:39, 21 September 2021 (UTC)

== Karan Bajaj ==

Hello, please, check the articles on the Talk page of [[Draft:Karan Bajaj]] (the last two sections) and let me know if they meet [[WP:RSP]], [[WP:SIGCOV]] and [[WP:BIO]]/[[WP:AUTHOR]]. The last reviewer [[User:Salimfadhley|Salimfadhley]] proposed to show a few articles for him and I did but he is unresponsive:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Salimfadhley#Karan_Bajaj_Draft

There are also 2 last sections on the Talk page&nbsp;[[User:Habibiroyal|Habibiroyal]] ([[User talk:Habibiroyal|talk]]) 20:34, 21 September 2021 (UTC)
:Were you going to identify some significant coverage in reliable secondary sources? --[[User:Salimfadhley|Salimfadhley]] ([[User talk:Salimfadhley|talk]]) 21:31, 21 September 2021 (UTC)

== how to add userboxes? ==

i cannot figure out how to add userboxes to my page&nbsp;[[User:Sukunasleftnut|Sukunasleftnut]] ([[User talk:Sukunasleftnut|talk]]) 20:44, 21 September 2021 (UTC)
: You still have the "noWiki" markup on your userbox, which looks like this: <nowiki><nowiki></nowiki>. Remove those and you're good to go. [[User:Pyrrho the Skeptic|Pyrrho the Skeptic]] ([[User talk:Pyrrho the Skeptic|talk]]) 20:57, 21 September 2021 (UTC)
:: You'll want to put the userbox name in curly brackets like this: <nowiki>{{User wikipedia/RC Patrol}}</nowiki> [[User:Pyrrho the Skeptic|Pyrrho the Skeptic]] ([[User talk:Pyrrho the Skeptic|talk]]) 21:01, 21 September 2021 (UTC)
:I've fixed it for you. Take a look at what I did so you can see what you have to do in the future. ― [[User:Blaze The Wolf|<b style="background:#0d1125;color:#51aeff;padding:1q;border-radius:5q">Blaze The Wolf</b>]][[User talk:Blaze The Wolf|<sup>Talk</sup>]]<sub title="Discord Username" style="position:relative;right:22q">Blaze Wolf#0001</sub> 22:13, 21 September 2021 (UTC)

==Draft:The Gaming House - Submission declined on 21 September 2021==

Hello Teahouse, my draft article for The Gaming House was declined. Please resubmit this draft. [[User:AnsrieJames9|AnsrieJames9]] ([[User talk:AnsrieJames9|talk]]) 22:39, 21 September 2021
:{{ping|AnsrieJames9}} Have you checked out the reasoning why it was declined? The declining user stated that the subject does not appear notable. ― [[User:Blaze The Wolf|<b style="background:#0d1125;color:#51aeff;padding:1q;border-radius:5q">Blaze The Wolf</b>]][[User talk:Blaze The Wolf|<sup>Talk</sup>]]<sub title="Discord Username" style="position:relative;right:22q">Blaze Wolf#0001</sub> 22:48, 21 September 2021 (UTC)

== Watchlist ==

How many pages can I have on my watchlist?&nbsp;[[User:The Tips of Apmh|The Tips of Apmh]] ([[User talk:The Tips of Apmh|talk]]) 23:00, 21 September 2021 (UTC)
:{{ping|The Tips of Apmh}} As far as I'm aware the only limit is the number of pages on Wikipedia (which is over a million and if you have every page on wikipedia on your watchlist then your watchlist is functionally identical to Recent Changes. ― [[User:Blaze The Wolf|<b style="background:#0d1125;color:#51aeff;padding:1q;border-radius:5q">Blaze The Wolf</b>]][[User talk:Blaze The Wolf|<sup>Talk</sup>]]<sub title="Discord Username" style="position:relative;right:22q">Blaze Wolf#0001</sub> 23:02, 21 September 2021 (UTC)
::Okay, thank you. [[User:The Tips of Apmh|The Tips of Apmh]] ([[User talk:The Tips of Apmh|talk]]) 23:05, 21 September 2021 (UTC)

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Target Corporation store on Coleman Avenue in San Jose, CA.

https://www.target.com/sl/san-jose-college-park/2088

SSDI: "Target Guest Wi-Fi" .

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How they know you're at Target

I'd assume it's because they are on the same wi-fi network as you, so you're both getting the notifications. What's probably going to happen is that the whole IP address for the store is blocked, because it's impossible to tell who on the network is acting silly and who is minding their own business. I know working retail sucks, but don't you fellas have anything better to do? jp×g 23:10, 21 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

because i work at target
Okay, fair enough, but surely you could come up with funnier vandalism than the stuff you're putting out right now? jp×g 23:13, 21 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Although the last few are quite an improvement, I'd recommend you take a little longer and come up with better material. After all, you're getting paid to do this and I'm not. jp×g 23:19, 21 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

and also watch whats gonna happen in the teahouse, keep refreshing until you finnaly see a huge change

Replacing the entirety of Teahouse with Windows 10 is not funny at all ― Blaze The WolfTalkBlaze Wolf#0001 23:27, 21 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

ok what about windows 11

No! What you are doing is vandalism! Not jokes. Wikipedia is not a place for dumb jokes like that. ― Blaze The WolfTalkBlaze Wolf#0001 23:28, 21 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

ok check teahouse its now windows 11

Stop what you are doing now. You are straight up vandalizing Wikipedia which is not funny. ― Blaze The WolfTalkBlaze Wolf#0001 23:30, 21 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

what if i replaced teahouse to the south park article but i want south park to be north park

HOW MANY TIMES DO I HAVE TO SAY THIS? NO! ― Blaze The WolfTalkBlaze Wolf#0001 23:32, 21 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

oh it looks you added as bold text and yelled at me, funny. also automated filter didnt let me change teahouse to south park

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