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Hitesh C. Soni

The article is deleted due to advertising content. the article can be fixed so I think it wasn't deleted. The article was stub and has references which are enough for stub article. Kindly recover that article so I can fix the issue. thank You.Kalim0135 (talk) 00:28, 29 September 2021 (UTC)

Kalim0135, first off, do not presume to give orders. Secondly, as you have written promotional material, please clarify if you are being paid or compensated to edit Wikipedia, including being asked or expected to edit as a duty of employment. If so, you will need to make the required disclosures before we proceed. Seraphimblade ^{Talk to me} 00:52, 29 September 2021 (UTC)

Seraphimblade Sir, I haven't ordered. With respect, I have just shared my opinion for which I apologize. I am not being paid or compensated to edit Wikipedia. The subject "Hitesh C. Soni" was my mentor & he is much notable in our country that's why I just tried to publish the article about him. I am trying to learning the Wikipedia terms and policies. Thank you for help.Kalim0135 (talk) 01:09, 29 September 2021 (UTC)

Thanks for clarifying that. The article in question was quite promotional, with some examples (but by no means an exhaustive list): He was recently featured in the magazine edition of Insights Success for Most Reliable Law Firm 2021 (that cites an interview claiming that; why doesn't it cite the actual article?), He has represented and served some top clients (don't use fluff terms like "top"), As of today, Mr. Soni (refer to someone by full name upon first mention in an article and last name only thereafter, don't use "Mr."), and a laundry list of non-notable awards. That aside, now that I review some of the source material, I find that you also copied and pasted material directly from some of them, which is a copyright violation. You absolutely must not copy and paste material from sources into Wikipedia articles; article material must be based upon facts from reliable sources but written in your own words. Seraphimblade ^{Talk to me} 02:21, 29 September 2021 (UTC)

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Revising 3O

Hello, I'm really sorry that I have to bring this up one month later, but would it be possible for you to look over this discussion once more? The other user involved has since disruptively rolled back an edit he had previously acceeded to. I was under the impression that our conversation had been in good faith, but I'm seriously starting to doubt that in light of what's happened.

Please reconsider my arguments and take this precedent into consideration. I would really like to finally put this matter behind me. Thank you. --Reodorant (talk) 08:49, 3 October 2021 (UTC)

Reodorant, that is a completely separate article. If you would like more input on that, please either make a new request at 3O, or if need be request a full RfC. It is generally not good form to try to request that specific people join the discussion when those options are available, and so I will not do so. Seraphimblade ^{Talk to me} 19:14, 3 October 2021 (UTC)

Katy Krassner

Hello. Hoping you can tell me why you deleted the article since, after a suggested revision, it did not read promotional in nature. Ms. Krassner is referenced in a few places on Wikipedia AND has a weekly national radio show on Sirius Radio, so it seems like including her would be worthy. Can you provide some feedback on how I might be able to make the submission more acceptable to you? thank you in advance. Askkaty2write (talk) 05:17, 4 October 2021 (UTC)

Askkaty2write, based upon your username, it seems rather to indicate that you are being paid or compensated to edit Wikipedia about this subject, including being asked or expected to do so as a duty of employment or internship. Given that, you will need to make the required disclosures before we proceed. Seraphimblade ^{Talk to me} 06:47, 4 October 2021 (UTC)

Seraphimblade,Appreciate the fast reply. I am neither katy nor being paid. I can understand that assumption because I do work with her and well, there's that UserName. Is there another suggestion you can make? It seems like a worthwhile entry to Wiki but if you disagree I can move on. Thank you Askkaty2write (talk) 21:46, 4 October 2021 (UTC)

I see. Well, firstly, the suggestion is not "Write a puff piece, and then try to clean it up a bit if you get caught." That said, firstly, don't use external links in article text. If the subject of the article has an official website, one link to that is okay, at the bottom of the article in a separate "External links" section. For the rest: Katy Krassner is the co-host of the radio program WHOOOSH! on SiriusXM's Volume channel. (This is sourced to Sirius, which is fine to confirm the claim, but has anyone outside her employer indicated any significance to this such that the article should lead off with it?), Krassner was born in New York and grew up in Roslyn Heights, New York on Long Island in a Jewish family. (This is actually a biographies of living persons issue. As religion and ethnicity can be sensitive subjects to many individuals, a claim regarding either of those things about a living individual absolutely must be supported by a reliable source.), She graduated from the Wheatley School before attending the University of Rhode Island, where she majored in Communication. She later received a Master's Degree from New York Institute of Technology. (this is unreferenced, so seems rather to be CV style stuff. Also, while I'm not sure why, I find that promotional articles often Capitalize Random Words, and here, "communication" and "master's degree" are inappropriately capitalized.), She was referenced in a May, 1995 New York Times piece on Duran Duran's THANK YOU album shortly thereafter. (she was briefly quoted; this is not of any significance and shouldn't really be included.) From the references there, it looks like many are not reliable and/or independent, or only mention her in passing. If those are the best available, this individual would not pass the notability guidelines and so it is not appropriate to have an article about her. If there are multiple reliable and independent sources that cover her specifically to substantial depth, use those, and stick to facts that those sources verify without any "talking up". Also, if you work with her you have a conflict of interest, and that brings two things into tension—Wikipedia articles must be strictly neutral and not promote anyone or anything, yet it would be quite difficult for any of us (certainly me included) to remain neutral about a subject we're very close to and have an interest in. For that reason, it is strongly recommended that editors with such a conflict of interest create articles as a draft and request review via articles for creation, so that someone without a COI can have a look at it and give feedback. Seraphimblade ^{Talk to me} 03:46, 5 October 2021 (UTC)

I actually sincerely appreciate the time and the feedback you've given. I thought it was a notable entry but you've proven to me it was/is not at this time. Thank you. Askkaty2write (talk) 01:33, 8 October 2021 (UTC)

Aaron Mujajati

I need your guidance on the Aaron Mujajati article which was deleted this morning. As a contributor, I ensure that references were made to the article and also it was not an orphan. I agree that some reference went to tabloid news sources and discussion forums but a great deal of the content was referenced by credible newspapers in Zambia.

Dr Mujajati is a notable physician in Zambia having been the president of the association for all doctors in the country and also having being the registrar for all health personnel in the country. The references in the news articles are all independent of his work place or the person. However since I am still learning how to publish and you can help me do a better job, advise how best to get the content published without problems.

Note that Zambia is a poor country and doesn't have many content producers. Therefore notability of subjects should not heavily weigh and so be judged on how many times the person is mentioned within Wikipedia itself because content developers are not many to have done that before. The few of us who volunteer to produce content, do it to increase Zambian content on this platform.

Lastly, my user name is my middle African name and I do not promote anyone commercially. I have been working on Wikipedia content since 2005 and even met Jimmy Wales who inspired me to do this. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mwanaapeluke (talk • contribs) 13:10, 7 October 2021 (UTC)

I have since noticed that you suggest not copying and pasting material directly from sources into Wikipedia, this being a copyright violation. But that the article material must be in my own words.

Mwanaapeluke, in this case, the issue is not one of lack of sourcing (the article is badly reference bombed, and I'm not looking through fifty to see if they're any good or not, though the first source in a biography of a living person being the Daily Mail is not a good sign. Do not use the Daily Mail.), but rather promotional tone, written rather like a CV. As some examples, but by no means an exhaustive list: Dr Mujajati has served on several boards both in the private and public sector (the source said he has stated that he has done that, it does not confirm that he actually has, and "Mujajati", don't use "Dr.". This is also a direct copy-paste from the source), His father Cephas Philip Mujajati, a Zimbabwean shona man, and his mother Esther Mwangana Mubita, a Zambian Lozi woman, raised him in a Christian setting. (the source, aside from being the Daily Mail, also does not confirm that any of that is of any significance), Mujajati attended... (none of that is referenced at all, let alone shown to be significant, so again CV-style stuff), Mujajati also co-wrote a paper... (that's only "sourced" to the paper itself; once again, do reliable and independent sources confirm this to be of any substantial significance?), and on and on like that. So yes, avoid copy and pasting, but also ensure you are using the best available sources, not just running up the citation count, and avoid any type of "talking up". Articles must be entirely neutral in tone and content. Seraphimblade ^{Talk to me} 17:41, 7 October 2021 (UTC)

Thanks for the guidance. I have followed you comments and I have learnt that 50 references and worse than 10. I actually thought the more the better but we keep learning.

The Zambia Daily Mail is not a tabloid newspaper. It is not like the Daily Mail of the UK. It is the largest newspaper in Zambia and a broadsheet. It is very respected. However, I have understood the part where articles quoting what the subject said do not confirm facts. I must admit I am very impressed with your speed and depth of analysing these issues.

Lastly I have understood the neutral angle needed.

What is the best way to reproduce the article with all the corrections without breaking the rules? I believe the notability of this article's subject is very high and it is worth publishing once all the issues are addressed.

I already said above. Write neutrally, use the best available references, and stick to facts that they verify. Seraphimblade ^{Talk to me} 01:05, 9 October 2021 (UTC)

Thanks a lot. Will take time and redo it and then follow the process of other editors contributing before publishing.