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Shiba inu is a crypto that’s not a pump and dump scheme. It is owned by many who invest in it long term. Some so that even the original owner who bought $8000 worth still owns his tokens just transferred some between wallets to ensure his tokens are protected preventing inflation of the crypto. Shiba inu is a community based coin that is being widely accepted. Any information can be retrieved from the CEO Shytoshi Kasuma who runs SHIB social media and is the owner. |
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![]() | On 18 May 2021, it was proposed that this article be moved from Shiba Inu coin to Shiba Inu (cryptocurrency). The result of the discussion was moved. |
Requested move 18 May 2021
- The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
The result of the move request was: moved (non-admin closure) Lennart97 (talk) 12:01, 26 May 2021 (UTC)
Shiba Inu coin → Shiba Inu (cryptocurrency) – Most sources just seem to refer to it as either Shiba Inu or its code, SHIB. Obviously, the "cryptocurrency" is there to distinguish it from the dog breed, Shiba Inu. Thanks, EDG 543 (message me) 22:20, 18 May 2021 (UTC)
Vague writing
"On 13 May [2021], Buterin donated more than 50 trillion Shiba Tokens […]." Buterin is never introduced in the article. —Themetron (talk) 04:52, 5 June 2021 (UTC)
:It's Vitalik Buterin, I linked him now, thank you.VikingDrummer (talk) 04:56, 5 June 2021 (UTC) sock puppet of banned user-GizzyCatBella🍁 14:06, 11 June 2021 (UTC)
Woof Papers
Instead of the name 'white papers' used to describe a projects goals and infrastructure, the development team has created 'Woof Papers' which can be downloaded and read on the official website.[1]
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Improvements with sources
I plan on adding information to the Shiba Token page about the goals of the project. First of all, I will explore the concept of banking the unbanked with crypto currency and unlocking financial freedom for billions through an investment vehicle that builds multiple streams of income. Then I will add information of the tokenomics and how the 1,000 trillion supply allows users to gather millions to billions. Finally, I will add information regarding the latest tokens to be added to the Shibaswap ecosystem and how they will allow users to govern and vote in a decentralized manner. Of course, I need permission to edit this outdated article.
https://cointelegraph.com/news/shibu-inu-shib-dex-shibaswap-surpasses-1b-tvl-24-hours-after-launch
https://www.thestreet.com/crypto/news/what-is-shiba-inu-coin-is-it-a-good-investment
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Page mentions that the coin is "modeled" on DOGE and this is misleading - SHIB is a parody coin for DOGE, but it is based on ERC-20 protocol where DOGE is based on Litecoin. Article should indicate that SHIB is ERC-20 based, which DOGE is not. Juberish (talk) 14:13, 25 October 2021 (UTC)
@Juberish Not done – please clarify - I don't see anywhere that it shows that this is modeled, may you clarify? SoyokoAnis - talk 13:57, 28 October 2021 (UTC)
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The referred article [2] (https://marketrealist.com/p/is-shiba-inu-a-pump-and-dump/) actually states "Based on these arguments, Shiba Inu doesn’t appear to be a pump-and-dump scheme." 50.65.116.245 (talk) 14:27, 29 October 2021 (UTC)
Yes. Lede concludes the opposite of what the reference states. I have attempted to clarify what reference actually states. Glennconti (talk) 18:37, 30 October 2021 (UTC)
Partly done: I have slightly reworded the sentence and replaced the "marketlist" source with two other sources which do say that it has been characterised as a pump and dump scheme. Cakelot1 (talk) 17:09, 1 November 2021 (UTC)
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Recent edit removed weasel words from second sentence of first paragraph. This changed meaning. The sentence says that SHIB is suspected pump-and-dump. The link says it is not a pump-and-dump. Please correct. 72.86.39.245 (talk) 05:11, 1 November 2021 (UTC)
Already done See above. Cakelot1 (talk) 17:11, 1 November 2021 (UTC)
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I respectfully request that remarks about Shiba Inu crypto currency which state “it is a classic pump and dump fraud scheme” be retracted as this coin has now found utility and purpose in the retail markets in several countries including USA, France, Uk, and India. As well as being used as a currency to help fight the COVID-19 pandemic. Thank you. 47.222.20.37 (talk) 06:50, 1 November 2021 (UTC)
Partly done: See above. The article already talks about the donation of 50 trillion SHIB to the India COVID-Crypto Relief Fund. If you have any sources about how "this coin has now found utility and purpose in the retail markets" please provided them. Cakelot1 (talk) 17:14, 1 November 2021 (UTC)
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Remove line about classic pump and dump. The source article does not support this. 2600:8804:4A00:62:4910:A4E2:7F53:5F2 (talk) 07:15, 1 November 2021 (UTC)
Partly done: See above. Cakelot1 (talk) 17:15, 1 November 2021 (UTC)
Subjective editing with a Intentional misrepresentation of the statement in the article is quite disappointing.
Please look at the actual writing.
" Shiba Inu's use cases are expanding, and it's attempting to shed its meme status. In July, Shiba Inu introduced ShibaSwap—a decentralized exchange platform (DEX). ShibaSwap enables SHIB holders to stake their coins to earn interest. The total value locked on ShibaSwap has surpassed $500 million. Based on these arguments, Shiba Inu doesn’t appear to be a pump-and-dump scheme.".
With this its obvious that in the original statement of it not appearing to be a scheme was correct and not just wishful thinking. as stated by a pervious editor. I implore you to make the correct edits and to change the deceitful current description to the correct one.
Hope the day finds you well Thank you for your time Zilium (talk) 11:44, 1 November 2021 (UTC)
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Shiba inu is not a pump and dump 2601:801:8101:49C0:39F0:5972:8B06:F2D4 (talk) 12:54, 1 November 2021 (UTC)
Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Cakelot1 (talk) 18:02, 1 November 2021 (UTC)
Pump and Dump?
Whoever the editor that added in the “pump and dump fraud scheme” is a liar and shouldn’t be able to edit anything on here. Can someone please tell me how to edit this being it’s protected? NayrRebrab (talk) 14:57, 1 November 2021 (UTC)
- @NayrRebrab, users aren't generally banned for something so small. I have changed the sentence slightly and added two sources that actually do say that some have characterised as a pump and dump. If you have better sources that contradict those given please provide them
- As far as protection is concerned please see WP:SEMI for more details. It will likely remain under semi-protection (or higher) until the danger of edit wars has died down. Feel free to make further requests on the talk page. Cakelot1 (talk) 18:12, 1 November 2021 (UTC)
i too agree that this should be changed 87.74.136.119 (talk) 17:04, 1 November 2021 (UTC)
Wither it intends to or not Wikipedia shows up as a direct connection to the search for Shib directly alongside a google search. This means that the phrase "it has been characterised as a pump and dump scheme." directly influences the price of the token, flies in the face of the Wikipedia credo and is badly misspelled. Yes shib has been characterized as a pump and dump. So has bitcoin, https://cryptonewsreview.com/ex-paypal-ceo-bitcoin-is-a-pump-and-dump-scheme/ So have been 12 Canadians for the canadian currency https://www.theglobeandmail.com/report-on-business/canadians-victims-of-new-hack-pump-and-dump-scheme/article20395046/ In fact look hard enough and you will find evidence that shoes are edible. https://bootadvice.com/are-crocs-edible/ The difference between these websites (niche or not) and wikipedia is when a search result shows up alongside a users query people are likley to believe said featured snippet. Furthermore link 1 states shib has no utility which is wrong. see https://github.com/shytoshikusama/woofwoofpaper/raw/main/SHIBA_INU_WOOF_WOOF.pdf
I strongly believe the person who edited the article to say Shib is a pump and dump did so for financial gain. Is shib here for long-term? does it contain future-proofed utility? that's up for history to decide. it is not however in the hands of one individual to modify a article with in factual statements and loose references to globally influence the information available to the general population. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Quota8Star (talk • contribs) 16:50, 2 November 2021 (UTC)
- The 2 sources by that statement show that it has been characterised as a pump and dump. These sources seem reliable and it isn't Wikipedia's job to do advertising for a cryptocurrency. Perhaps the claim should be reworded or moved somewhere else in the article. However accusing users who you disagree with as editing for some sinister secret reason is unlikely to get you anywhere.
- If you have a recommendation for something that would improve the article (without making accusations about other's motivations) please provide them. Cakelot1 (talk) 18:29, 2 November 2021 (UTC)
- Can someone please remove the word "fraud"? "fraud" is a highly libellous term that is not supported by any source. It could also be added in the same way how some experts think it is a great coin with a lot of potential. Calling it a "pump and dump" is also ludicrous for Shib to anyone who knows anything about crypto and who knows when it was called this. It's such weasel words. It's like how Vox wrote an article calling Bitcoin a pump and dump in 2018 - there's a kind of sense to it but only strictly in a specific context. 185.31.98.223 (talk) 17:20, 4 November 2021 (UTC)
I don't think you realise the impact that line appearing on the first page of Google will have on investors. BTW, that not even a fact, that is what some people think. Realninety5 (talk) 05:48, 6 November 2021 (UTC)
- "It has been characterised as a pump and dump" is something that is backed up by 2 sources. It is Wikipedia's job to some up what is said in Reliable Sources not to be concerned about how investors are impacted.
- As I have said multiple times on this page I think that it will eventually be moved somewhere else in the article. Ideally we'd put it in a criticism section (e.g: Bitcoin#Criticisms, Dogecoin#Criticism, ect.) but there simply isn't the content in the article to do that yet. You could improve this article by giving some WP:RS to extend the content article.
- In the mean time, if you have a particular suggestion for how you think the sentence should be worded or where you think it should be moved to in the article (I am against removing it as it is backed up by 2 sources) feel free recommend it here. Cakelot1 (talk) 09:37, 6 November 2021 (UTC)
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not a pump and dump 167.248.84.224 (talk) 16:39, 1 November 2021 (UTC)
Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Cakelot1 (talk) 18:02, 1 November 2021 (UTC)
Circulating Supply is Wrong
The circulating supply listed is "1 quadrillion" when the reality is much lower. Currently 549.1T [1] [2]. Possibly change number or reword it to say "total supply" instead of circulating supply. 195.75.235.107 (talk) 10:55, 4 November 2021 (UTC)
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Remove “pump and dump fraud scheme”. This is a claim made with any stock or crypto and to publish this as fact is market manipulation. 104.179.196.218 (talk) 21:40, 4 November 2021 (UTC)
Not done for now: This article will likely need to be reorganised at some point, and the fact that it has been characterised as as a pump and dump (as shown by the 2 sources given) will probably be moved to a different part of the article and might need to be reworded. Other cypto articles do in fact have criticisms that have been given by reliable sources (e.g. Bitcoin#Criticisms).
- A way that you could help improve the article is to provide links to independent, Reliable sources (WP:RS) that counter the claims already given heare. Cakelot1 (talk) 23:24, 4 November 2021 (UTC)
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Remove that shiba inu is a pump and dump coin. The last line in the opening paragraph is not an accurate description to what the subject is. It has not been proven to be a pump and dump coin - the source given is an opinion piece. 2605:8D80:562:F8DD:DD99:8A6C:C345:3B6A (talk) 21:43, 4 November 2021 (UTC)
Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Cakelot1 (talk) 23:24, 4 November 2021 (UTC)
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This suggests the coin is a scam, however the Shiba Inu coin has a good white paper and is growing in utility far beyond the efforts of like coins like Dogecoin. 174.251.169.179 (talk) 22:14, 4 November 2021 (UTC)
Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. Cakelot1 (talk) 23:24, 4 November 2021 (UTC)
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This is not a pump and dump and even never gonna be a fraud, is a decentralized token with a strong comunity, so stop writing things without sense, you should be a doge holder but please respect is what we SHIBARMY ask 2806:10A6:9:71EA:F1CB:D49C:7FF9:5048 (talk) 22:34, 4 November 2021 (UTC)
Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. Cakelot1 (talk) 23:24, 4 November 2021 (UTC)
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Remove the phrase "It has been characterized as a pump and dump scheme." The reason is, by definition 'Pump-and-dump schemes generally target micro-and small-cap stocks on over-the-counter exchanges that are less regulated than traditional exchanges'. However, the Shiba Inu crypto-currency is listed on many well-established exchanges like Coinbase, which is regulated. The articles it references are questionable to debate and based on personal opinions and nothing factual that provides substantial evidence. The term 'characterized' implies a distinctive nature, yet the articles referenced provide no such distinctive data, documentation nor confirmation thus lacking credibility. Caly31 (talk) 03:29, 5 November 2021 (UTC)
Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Wikipedia can't make inferences about whether being on "Coinbase" dose or dosn't make it a pump and dump. That would be Original research which is not allowed on Wikipedia. Any change would need to be backed up by independent reliable, published sources which I think the current claim (characterised as a pump and dump) is. If you have some appropriate and reliable sources to back up your changes please provide them and we can discuss how to put the information in the article Cakelot1 (talk) 09:03, 5 November 2021 (UTC)
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199.96.200.237 (talk) 09:25, 7 November 2021 (UTC)
Shiba inu is a crypto that’s not a pump and dump scheme. It is owned by many who invest in it long term. Some so that even the original owner who bought $8000 worth still owns his tokens just transferred some between wallets to ensure his tokens are protected preventing inflation of the crypto. Shiba inu is a community based coin that is being widely accepted. Any information can be retrieved from the CEO Shytoshi Kasuma who runs SHIB social media and is the owner.
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