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The pretender

Hey Shyamal: I'm sure you know who I mean. I found a cropped version of this photo File:Western_ghats_rainforest,_nilgiris.jpg on the cover of a newsletter by the Rainforest Trust, see https://online.anyflip.com/zzrd/myic/mobile/index.html. Rhett Butler, founder of Mongobay, took similar photos using a DJI drone in Peru, see e.g. this one at https://travel.mongabay.com/peru/images/amazon_200238.html. He made some 300 photos taken in Peru available, several for free download. So highly likely that the pretender's one is among them. I haven't come across anyone cheating as much as the pretender did, so think it worthwhile to check his future edits rigorously. Cheers – BhagyaMani (talk) 12:37, 20 September 2021 (UTC)

Yes, I saw the blatant lack of integrity and honesty, the person is clearly young and naiive, and hopefully will recognize their own incompetence at some point in life. I do not have the time or interest to look at that person's specific contributions, I can however hope to someday recruit people who actually know better to fix that article in its entirety. Much easier just to remove all their content, there is little really worth keeping even if it is true. Shyamal (talk) 12:54, 20 September 2021 (UTC)

Y'day, they again uploaded an image to Commons that is a copy-vio: a snapshot with a cell phone from a video published at YouTube. Quite inventive, I must say, but didn't learn a thing. – BhagyaMani (talk) 08:32, 30 September 2021 (UTC)

Yes, the user is clearly incompetent and refuses to learn about copyright - I hope a Commons admin takes appropriate action. I see that you have tagged it for speedy deletion. Shyamal (talk) 08:53, 30 September 2021 (UTC)

Yes, I found out by chance when checking new images this morning that they added to the Mudumalai National Park page. – BhagyaMani (talk) 09:12, 30 September 2021 (UTC)

Hey Shyamal: I'm afraid s/he again uploaded an array of images to Commons, allegedly taken during a night safari in Mudumalai NP. But their quality is so low that these are surely part of vdos. So I looked at several night-time vdos by Jasoprakas Debdas & colleagues. Compare the frame at minute 6:10 in https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9LdnGhI9yUE with this image File:Night ride in Mudumalai - Huge tusker.jpg. I'll tag it for speedy deletion as soon as you let me know that you have seen it. – BhagyaMani (talk) 22:10, 20 October 2021 (UTC)

A pity that the user does not seem to show any sign of learning. Incredible that you could trace that image to a specific frame in a YouTube video! It certainly is that one. Shyamal (talk) 02:23, 21 October 2021 (UTC)

And this img File:Night_ride_in_Mudumalai_-_Sambar_deer.jpg from this vdo frame at minute 2:09 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z99d5xxHgAY ? – BhagyaMani (talk) 07:25, 21 October 2021 (UTC)

Hey again: apparently, a new editor is following in Shaan Vinoth's footsteps and uploaded at least 2 images violating copyright of original photographers. Shaan Vinoth inserted these within less than 5 minutes after the former had uploaded images, and many more in the guy's upload list are unchecked. I suggest to refrain from displaying their images in any page. What do you think? – BhagyaMani (talk) 12:01, 4 November 2021 (UTC)

Oh dear, I am sure this is just annoying. I see they are deleted. Shyamal (talk) 12:07, 4 November 2021 (UTC)

Yes, I added the relevant tag this morning. And wonder whether the new guy is a sock? – BhagyaMani (talk) 12:16, 4 November 2021 (UTC)

I cannot help about the Commons situation, but if you think the disruption is excessive, I can put the Mudumalai article on protection for some time. Shyamal (talk) 12:22, 4 November 2021 (UTC)

The other guy inserted just one img in the page, which got replaced. And protecting the page won't keep SV from continuing their 'adding + replacing images' spree, for which they'd better use their sandbox, imo. – BhagyaMani (talk) 12:37, 4 November 2021 (UTC)

Mudumalai NP

Hey Shyamal: you may have noticed that I overhauled this page, i.e. removed unsourced + added sourced content. At present, this page is rated C-class. Would you find some time to review it + perhaps upgrade it to B?
There is still a wealth of material to add as so much research has been conducted in the past 3+ decades. I'll continue to work on this in the next days, and later perhaps GAN it, if you think it'll be worthwhile. Cheers, BhagyaMani (talk) 15:52, 24 October 2021 (UTC)

I will take a look - it certainly needs a good map, let me check around for a reliable delineation or shapefile. Shyamal (talk) 11:02, 25 October 2021 (UTC)

Did you not find a map? Please let me know whether you are still interested to look into the page's rating. – BhagyaMani (talk) 07:39, 22 November 2021 (UTC)

I found a rather low resolution and also outdated outline. Part of the problem apparently is that there is no legally defined boundary, with a very fluid boundary with private estates on the foothills of the Nilgiris (a colonial legacy, unfortunately). I am a bit stretched at the moment, and I know some people who know the area and literature very well, but will have to sit along with them to do anything useful. Nothing time bound, I am afraid, but will keep it in mind. Shyamal (talk) 07:58, 22 November 2021 (UTC)

@BhagyaMani: I have set up the shape data here - still trying to figure out how to get it into a mapframe ... Shyamal (talk) 05:22, 25 November 2021 (UTC)

- this does not seem to work inside the infobox template though... nor am I able to align this to the right or left. Shyamal (talk) 05:52, 25 November 2021 (UTC)

Super. I only moved the map to left, as the first few lines of text were squeezed between map and image. I understand this shape shows NP boundary, not of Tiger Reserve? – BhagyaMani (talk) 08:57, 25 November 2021 (UTC)

I don't think there is a difference, the source says Mudumalai Tiger Reserve, I think National Park was an older dwsignation. Shyamal (talk) 09:15, 25 November 2021 (UTC)

There is indeed a difference : Tiger Reserve = NP + a buffer zone : see last sentence in section Geography with ref. – BhagyaMani (talk) 10:12, 25 November 2021 (UTC)

I am not sure that is correct - the sanctuary has historically had different designations and levels of protection - https://ntca.gov.in/assets/uploads/notification/tigerreserve/Mudumalai.pdf - and there are slight changes in the area covered over time but at no simultaneous point in time are there two boundaries - one for National Park and another for the Tiger Reserve. In fact it is now only a Tiger Reserve - the article should perhaps be moved. Core and buffer zones were and continue to be designated within the boundaries. Shyamal (talk) 12:15, 25 November 2021 (UTC) [PS: I did a summation of the areas - and it does come up to 321 sq. km]

Yes, this matches with all of the ref'ed sources. But as stated by Jhala et al. (2020), the Tiger Reserve includes a bufferzone around the NP: The core area of the reserve is 321 km2, with a buffer of 367.59 km2, the total area of the tiger reserve is approximately 688.59 km2. – BhagyaMani (talk) 14:27, 25 November 2021 (UTC)

Have a look at this (one author being a high-rank forest officer) - "from the contiguous forests of the Mudumalai Tiger Reserve (321km2), the Nilgiri North Division (448km2) and the Nilgiri South Division (199km2), which together cover an area of 968km2 (Fig. 1). MTR being a Tiger Reserve falls under IUCN category II (National Park), whereas NND and NSD consist of Reserved Forests (Indian Forest Act 1927, http://envfor.nic.in/legis/forest/forest4.html) which come under IUCN category V (protected landscape) if they are buffer zones of protected areas (http://www.iucn.org/about/work/programmes/gpap_home/gpap_quality/gpap_pacategories, viewed 26 January 2015)." Also this - "Mudumalai National Park was established in 1940 and notified as a tiger reserve in 2007." from doi:10.1177/1940082918802758 - clearly there is no "National Park" since 2007 except as historical usage. Interestingly this paper from 2002 says Mudumalai Wildlife Sanctuary was also 321 km². But there is this which does support your claim. I think that has just been a proposal that did not progress - due to the number of human habitations within the larger zone being suggested. Shyamal (talk) 14:38, 25 November 2021 (UTC)

The description in your last link is consistent with the info provided by Jhala et al. (2020) that the TR consists of a core zone and a buffer zone, the core zone being the NP. I trust that the Wildlife Institute of India folks have the correct info, the more so as their report is passed through the National Tiger Conservation Authority before being published. – BhagyaMani (talk) 16:26, 25 November 2021 (UTC)

Torben Bjørn Larsen

Many thanks.As we are Torben was a naturalist in the classical tradition. There is a matter which still troubles me.With the advent of maths as misunderstood Hennig (cladistics) and misapplied chemistry (DNA) we lost faith in the very foundation of our own science.Worse we discouraged the very able members of our own ranks not given to this spurious modernity.The French were, I think, less gullible (see Sciences Nat.Torben in my book was an Apostle of Linnaeus as indeed was the maligned Bernard d'Abrera. Nice to hear from you Robert Notafly (talk) 21:22, 21 November 2021 (UTC) Ps Time passes quickly now that I am 76.

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how are you User:Shyamal, can you review this Article, and User:İstanbul haberleri 2020/sandbox thank you so much --İstanbul haberleri 2020 (talk) 10:03, 3 December 2021 (UTC)

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Thanks. I am fine with the idea that all new articles I create go through the New Page Patrol / review process. Shyamal (talk) 08:45, 8 December 2021 (UTC)

• (talk page stalker) I think your articles are fine (actually sets a very high standard), and going through review process is not needed, and will just add work for reviewers. I'll be happy to add this autopatrolled right (you can do it as well). Let me know what you think. --Titodutta (talk) 16:44, 30 December 2021 (UTC)

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New Page - Sean Bush

Hi there,

I was told the draft for Dr Sean Bush was https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Sean_Bush meets the Wikipedia Notability for Academia by Wiki Admin Jim (Cullen328), however, he asked it to be reviewed by a topic expert and someone in the science and academia group or ask for help through the TeaHouse. I've reached out to TeaHouse and they also directed me to the WikiProject Science and Academmia Group. I'm reaching out to you on hopes you can review the page for notability. I noticed you have been watching links to spiders and snakes so thought Dr. Bush's page would be a good fit for your review.

Much appreciated, Nicole Beansalad3 (talk) 03:39, 31 December 2021 (UTC)