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::{{re|Mxn}} Maybe add "Updated" with a date to the footer so easier to tell the data's age? [[User:Jroberson108|Jroberson108]] ([[User talk:Jroberson108|talk]]) 12:08, 21 February 2022 (UTC) |
::{{re|Mxn}} Maybe add "Updated" with a date to the footer so easier to tell the data's age? [[User:Jroberson108|Jroberson108]] ([[User talk:Jroberson108|talk]]) 12:08, 21 February 2022 (UTC) |
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:'''Delete all except San Francisco''': Ignoring San Francisco, all are unused except Boston and all have outdated time-sensitive data; unlikely to be updated or used. [[User:Jroberson108|Jroberson108]] ([[User talk:Jroberson108|talk]]) 12:36, 21 February 2022 (UTC) |
:'''Delete all except San Francisco''': Ignoring San Francisco, all are unused except Boston and all have outdated time-sensitive data; unlikely to be updated or used. [[User:Jroberson108|Jroberson108]] ([[User talk:Jroberson108|talk]]) 12:36, 21 February 2022 (UTC) |
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:'''Delete All''': In the early stages of the pandemic, it was useful per location to update these when multiple persons assisted. As one of the creators of many of the templates, it was very time consuming to populate the data in a daily fashion. Since the data for most is out dated by six months to a year, it is unlikely that the gaps can be filled in from public health records. — [[User:Mr Xaero|<span style='color:black;text-shadow: 0.0em 0.0em 0.9em black'>''Mr Xaero''</span>]] [[User talk:Mr Xaero|<sup><span style='color:black;text-shadow: 0.1em 0.1em 0.2em black'>☎️</span></sup>]] 14:41, 21 February 2022 (UTC) |
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Revision as of 14:41, 21 February 2022
February 21
Template:Sheikh Hasina sidebar
Unnecessary sidebars where a navbox, Template:Sheikh Hasina, already covers the subject. The odd thing is that the first sidebar transcludes the sidebar with her married surname of Wazed. Not sure why it was created because it's a waste of space, but overall, the sidebar is very OR-ish, and Synth that mass complies a majority of unrelated links. I've made the necessary additions to the navbox and will transclude it at some point. But these sidebars are not needed. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 23:49, 13 February 2022 (UTC)
- Delete both Not really part of a "series" about her. The navbox {{Sheikh Hasina}} exists and is a much more useful way of navigating between these articles. If these articles were part of a "series" the sidebar should be in all of them. Nigej (talk) 07:26, 14 February 2022 (UTC)
- Keep one, delete the other The sidebar contains important information about a sitting head of government and can be used to easily navigate articles regarding Sheikh Hasina and her premiership by someone who may not be learned in the intricacies of Wikipedia. Both templates appear to have identical content therefore it would be appropriate to delete one of them and retain the other. I disagree with Nigej's assertion that If these articles were part of a "series" the sidebar should be in all of them. If you observe the Narendra Modi sidebar you'll note that the 2014 Indian election is mentioned but the sidebar does not appear on that page. The Sheikh Hasina template is no different.—AMomen88 (talk) 15:29, 19 February 2022 (UTC)
- However {{Narendra Modi series}} appears in 37 articles and these in 2. Nigej (talk) 15:46, 19 February 2022 (UTC)
- Also, the more directly related article to Hasina, I've added it to her navbox. The sidebar is not needed. The Modi sidebar has more articles related to his life and tenure in office without a SYNTH collection of links. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 15:26, 20 February 2022 (UTC)
- Nigej I have just added the sidebar to more pages regarding Sheikh Hasina.—AMomen88 (talk) 16:37, 20 February 2022 (UTC)
- WikiCleanerMan I recognise your point, but Sheikh Hasina is a sitting head of government whose page warrants a sidebar. Joe Biden, Justin Trudeau, Boris Johnson, Emmanuel Macron, Vladimir Putin, Jair Bolsonaro, Imran Khan, Andrés Manuel López Obrador, Mario Draghi, Xi Jinping are all sitting heads of government who have a sidebar just to name a few. All these sidebars have varying degrees of detail. I see no reason why Hasina's should be deleted when the convention seems to be that sitting heads of government would have a sidebar. A casual viewer of Wikipedia will not know what a navbox is let alone have the knowledge required to use it. The sidebar appears prominently on her article and is much more easily accessible.—AMomen88 (talk) 16:37, 20 February 2022 (UTC)
- @Worldbruce: and @Vinegarymass911:
- Then there needs to be a significant change. If we can agree to keep the sidebar then the one that should be kept should simply be named Sheikh Hasina sidebar. Not her married surname of Wazed as we use the common name for people. Her common name is just Sheikh Hasina. But all the information from the Wazed sidebar should be moved to the former because it's an unnecessary waste of space and a ridiculous form of transclusion. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 16:55, 20 February 2022 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Primefac (talk) 09:18, 21 February 2022 (UTC)
Template:Ancestors of John Gielgud
Genealogy of John Gielgud. Was added there and reverted as being unreferenced. More family history stuff than encyclopedic content. Nigej (talk) 12:05, 13 February 2022 (UTC)
- Keep The family tree does link notable individuals who have their own articles, namely John Gielgud, Kate Terry, Aniela Aszpergerowa and Michał Giełgud . So, this is encyclopedic content.--Cukrakalnis (talk) 17:37, 14 February 2022 (UTC)
- Delete per nomination. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 22:35, 15 February 2022 (UTC)
- Delete or move to userspace for development. Apparently no sources and not wanted in the articles. Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 15:56, 20 February 2022 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Primefac (talk) 09:18, 21 February 2022 (UTC)
Template:COVID-19 pandemic data/India/Tamil Nadu medical cases by district
- Template:COVID-19 pandemic data/India/Tamil Nadu medical cases by district (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
- Template:COVID-19 pandemic data/Nepal PCR tests by laboratory (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
- Template:COVID-19 pandemic data/Nepal medical cases by province and district (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Unused and time-sensitive data outdated; unlikely to be updated or used. Jroberson108 (talk) 06:15, 21 February 2022 (UTC)
- Delete: My reason is the same as the layed by the nominator. ItcouldbepossibleTalk 06:36, 21 February 2022 (UTC)
- Don't know what all this is about but I will use the Nepal templates again when I get back to updating COVID-19 pandemic in Nepal. If that is sufficient to keep, please do. I put a lot of work into it. Usedtobecool ☎️ 07:36, 21 February 2022 (UTC)
- Delete An unnecessary level of detail, even if was maintained and updated. Nigej (talk) 08:21, 21 February 2022 (UTC)
- That's not for a TFD to decide. Usedtobecool ☎️ 08:40, 21 February 2022 (UTC)
- It's part of this discussion, which is regarding if this template should be kept. Gonnym (talk) 09:43, 21 February 2022 (UTC)
- The other issue is that this is article content and, if it's to be kept it, should be in an article, not in a template. Nigej (talk) 09:53, 21 February 2022 (UTC)
- That's not for a TFD to decide. Usedtobecool ☎️ 08:40, 21 February 2022 (UTC)
Template:THCCtablekey
- Template:THCCtablekey (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Unused table legend. Gonnym (talk) 06:32, 21 February 2022 (UTC)
Template:WSCfinal
- Template:WSCfinal (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Unused sport table template. Gonnym (talk) 06:40, 21 February 2022 (UTC)
Template:Weather by years box
Unused sidebar with one link. Gonnym (talk) 06:41, 21 February 2022 (UTC)
Template:WikiProject Java/When graphical timeline
- Template:WikiProject Java/When graphical timeline (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Unused timeline template. Gonnym (talk) 06:43, 21 February 2022 (UTC)
Template:COVID-19 pandemic tables
- Template:COVID-19 pandemic by country and territory (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
- Template:COVID-19 pandemic data/India medical cases by state and union territory (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
- Template:COVID-19 pandemic data/India medical cases summary (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
- Template:COVID-19 pandemic data/Netherlands medical cases (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
- Template:COVID-19 pandemic data/Peru medical cases (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
- Template:COVID-19 pandemic data/Turkey medical cases by province (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
- Template:COVID-19 pandemic data/Wisconsin medical cases by county (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Unused and time-sensitive data outdated; unlikely to be updated or used. Jroberson108 (talk) 07:08, 21 February 2022 (UTC)
Template:COVID-19 pandemic data/California medical cases by county/style.css
- Template:COVID-19 pandemic data/California medical cases by county/style.css (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Unused and unlikely to be used. Jroberson108 (talk) 07:27, 21 February 2022 (UTC)
- Delete: As the original author of this stylesheet, I agree that it's no longer needed. Minh Nguyễn 💬 09:52, 21 February 2022 (UTC)
Template:Phnom Penh BRT Line 01 route
- Template:Phnom Penh BRT Line 01 route (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
- Template:Phnom Penh BRT Line 02 route (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
- Template:Phnom Penh BRT Line 03 route (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Bus routes in Phnom Penh. See Transport in Phnom Penh and Line 01 (Phnom Penh Bus Rapid Transit) etc. Clearly duplicates this information. Nigej (talk) 08:42, 21 February 2022 (UTC)
Template:COVID-19 pandemic data/Alaska medical cases by borough
- Template:COVID-19 pandemic data/Alaska medical cases by borough (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
- Template:COVID-19 pandemic data/American Samoa medical cases by county (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
- Template:COVID-19 pandemic data/Boston medical cases by district (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
- Template:COVID-19 pandemic data/Alabama medical cases by county (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
- Template:COVID-19 pandemic data/Delaware medical cases by county (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
- Template:COVID-19 pandemic data/Georgia (U.S. state) medical cases by county (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
- Template:COVID-19 pandemic data/Guam medical cases by village (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
- Template:COVID-19 pandemic data/Hawaii medical cases by county (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
- Template:COVID-19 pandemic data/Illinois medical cases by county (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
- Template:COVID-19 pandemic data/Indiana medical cases by county (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
- Template:COVID-19 pandemic data/Kentucky medical cases by county (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
- Template:COVID-19 pandemic data/Louisiana medical cases by parish (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
- Template:COVID-19 pandemic data/Mississippi medical cases by county (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
- Template:COVID-19 pandemic data/New York (state) medical cases by county (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
- Template:COVID-19 pandemic data/Pennsylvania medical cases by county (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
- Template:COVID-19 pandemic data/Puerto Rico medical cases by municipality (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
- Template:COVID-19 pandemic data/San Francisco Bay Area medical cases by county (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
- Template:COVID-19 pandemic data/Tennessee medical cases by county (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
- Template:COVID-19 pandemic data/United States Virgin Islands medical cases by island (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
- Template:COVID-19 pandemic data/Virginia medical cases by county (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
- Template:COVID-19 pandemic data/United States/Washington, D.C. medical cases by ward (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Data on cases/deaths by individual county and other sub-state division in the United States. The ones listed here have not been updated for at least a year. Trying to maintain such detail for such small divisions is unlikely to be useful in an encyclopedia and trying to maintain it on a daily/weekly basis is not a sensible use of anyone's time. Nigej (talk) 10:01, 21 February 2022 (UTC)
- @Nigej: Wisconsin has already been nominated above. Remove one from this or that. Jroberson108 (talk) 11:56, 21 February 2022 (UTC)
- Yes I noticed after I'd nominated it, but forgot to remove it from this list. Cheers. removed now. Nigej (talk) 11:58, 21 February 2022 (UTC)
- Keep one: I've been updating Template:COVID-19 pandemic data/San Francisco Bay Area medical cases by county every day since it was created in May 2020, including just a couple hours ago. It doesn't appear that way from the template's history, because the template dynamically draws from tabular data on Commons via Module:Medical cases data. You must've caught me while I was making some changes to the module that broke the template. This template is used in COVID-19 pandemic in the San Francisco Bay Area, where it has been useful as a summary of the state of the nine-county region where the lockdowns started in the U.S. Minh Nguyễn 💬 10:37, 21 February 2022 (UTC)
- Agree. Sorry I missed that one. Nigej (talk) 11:54, 21 February 2022 (UTC)
- @Mxn: Maybe add "Updated" with a date to the footer so easier to tell the data's age? Jroberson108 (talk) 12:08, 21 February 2022 (UTC)
- Delete all except San Francisco: Ignoring San Francisco, all are unused except Boston and all have outdated time-sensitive data; unlikely to be updated or used. Jroberson108 (talk) 12:36, 21 February 2022 (UTC)
- Delete All: In the early stages of the pandemic, it was useful per location to update these when multiple persons assisted. As one of the creators of many of the templates, it was very time consuming to populate the data in a daily fashion. Since the data for most is out dated by six months to a year, it is unlikely that the gaps can be filled in from public health records. — Mr Xaero ☎️ 14:41, 21 February 2022 (UTC)
Template:Compound surname
Unused hatnote. There been a policy of trying to combine individual hatnotes in this area into {{Family name hatnote}}, so creating a new one doesn't seem useful. If there's a requirement it needs adding to Family name hatnote. Nigej (talk) 10:37, 21 February 2022 (UTC)