Talk:Thyroid

Hypothyroidism (existing section, second paragraph, management of)

I am new to offering comments on Wikipedia, so please bear with me.

If you check Google Scholar for thyroid, there are literally hundreds of new research papers published weekly. There is still so much to learn. My wife has hypothyroidism, and I have been following her treatment for 20+ years.

This section is incomplete and thus misleading. It says: "Hypothyroidism is managed with replacement of the hormone thyroxine." thyroxine = T4. This is certainly true for many patients, but a significant number are also treated with replacement of T3, either in synthetic form, for example brand name Cytomel, or through various natural thyroid, typically derived from dessicated pig or cow thyroid gland, for example brand names Armour Thyroid or Naturethroid. More research is calling into question the established doctrine of the american endocrinologists to treat only with T4 levothyroxine. --Jmb5 (talk) 23:20, 23 July 2017 (UTC)

Hatnote

This article is about the gland. For the medication, see thyroid hormones.

Removed hatnote inserted by Doc James. [1] I did this because:

• Article is very clear about what it is about, readers will discover this via the picture and reading the text
• Readers looking for the medication very unlikely to search just for "thyroid" without supplying some more information (hatnote may be better placed on Thyroid hormone article)
• Hatnote better placed in thyroid hormone article or even a relevant section if consensus emerges for it to be placed
• For the reason above, this is not standard on our anatomy articles (eg we do not supply a hatnote for Pancreas to Digestive enzymes etc.)

Looking forward to perspectives of other users. --Tom (LT) (talk) 09:52, 28 February 2019 (UTC)

Desiccated thyroid is often called just thyroid Tom (LT)[2]

Also called "thyroid tablets, usp"[3] Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 09:56, 28 February 2019 (UTC)

Have posted at WP:MED and WP:ANATOMY to get some additional perspectives. Am not convinced by your thinking above. I have never heard patient's describe medications as just 'thyroid' - yes I have heard 'thyroid tablets' and 'heart medications' but that's why people use the second term ('tablets', 'medications') and not just state something confusing like 'I take thyroid' or 'I take heart' (which I assume most people would take to mean an meaty bits of an animal organ are literally being eaten). I think readers are cluey enough to work this out and so still don't support this hatnote. Am not a big fan of the excessive use of hatnotes as they make articles harder to read and I feel deter reading. Anyhow will see what other editors think. --Tom (LT) (talk) 06:33, 1 March 2019 (UTC)

The stuff is actually made out of thyroid. Maybe we can just put it as a "see also". Agree it is a less common use and not set on a hatnote as I agree those can be overused. Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 08:35, 1 March 2019 (UTC)

agree w/ Doc James suggestion--Ozzie10aaaa (talk) 11:16, 1 March 2019 (UTC)

Good idea, would support this. --Tom (LT) (talk) 22:49, 1 March 2019 (UTC)

• A hatnote definitely makes sense, but it shouldn't read "the medication", but rather "the hormones" or "the product of the thyroid". Thyroid hormones may be perceived by the general public as drugs, but they are primarily hormones. Carl Fredrik ^talk 08:45, 2 March 2019 (UTC)

• I oppose the hatnote. I am fine with the "See also" section. Axl ¤ [Talk] 13:38, 2 March 2019 (UTC)

Lead edits

I have rephrased para 2 of the Lead for clarity and accuracy, and plan several more edits to this article. I welcome review of and comments on my edits, especially by those who have made major contributions to this article, such as Tom (LT) (talk), and Iztwoz (talk). Regards, IiKkEe (talk) 12:21, 30 November 2019 (UTC)

Thanks for many of your edits IiKkEe, as I noted on your talk page some do improve the article and I can see you clearly have the goal of improving readability :). Some comments:

• I have removed many unnecessary subheadings, which have left subsections of single paragraphs or resulted in arbitrary subsections. --Tom (LT) (talk) 07:22, 2 December 2019 (UTC)
• Per WP:NOT a catalogue; and also probably (WP:BRD), as I do admit this is somewhat subjective. I have reverted your changes to the clinical significance subsection. My goal in structuring the section is to help readers understand the difference between symptoms of thyroid disease (which are generally just those four) vs. the diseases underlying them. I encourage you to edit something like Diseases of the thyroid gland if you want to create a comprehensive list or summary article of all diseases in a list format. In general these broad overview type articles are written in summary style and redirect readers to associated articles rather than covering more content here.
• I want to express my appreciation for some edits, eg your edit to the lead, the caption (putting colours, which it is true some readers may not immediately grasp) and some reordering sentences into logical formats :)

Happy to discuss further! There are many anatomy articles in need of attention, hope to see you around the traps with content addition related edits too :). (see WP:ANAT500 for our top 500 and their quality assesments) --Tom (LT) (talk) 07:22, 2 December 2019 (UTC)

Tom (LT) Again, apologies for the 4 month delay in responding, I have been away from WP until a few days ago. Thank you for your patience and civility. What you call stylistic changes I call organizational changes. I like subsection headings, I think they are an improvement. They tell the reader what the subject of the ensuing paragraph(s) will be. If any other editor thinks the article is better without them, I never object to having them reverted. I move on. In the 6 years I have been editing, the majority of my ~15,000 edits of ~500 articles have been modifications of Leads for clarity and completeness; many others have been organizational changes; the fewest have been content corrections or additions. All I ask is that you and others review and leave unaltered the edits you agree with (I always appreciate others clicking on "Thank") and revert those you don't agree with. Specifically, thank you for expressing your appreciation for my edits of the Thyroid article Lead and image caption. Let's keep co-editing! Regards, IiKkEe (talk) 02:48, 6 April 2020 (UTC)

disorders

thyroid gland 175.110.24.156 (talk) 19:43, 24 October 2021 (UTC)

Biology

The thyroid secretes a proteinaceous hormone called 117.226.238.251 (talk) 02:56, 18 November 2021 (UTC)

Etymology

Needs etymology 173.73.130.14 (talk) 19:25, 14 March 2022 (UTC)