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:Alex, I don't share your ideas about ethnicity. [[Nathalie Sarraute]] never wrote in Russian, yet it does not prevent her from being included into [[:Category:Russian women writers]]. There are many examples along these lines. That Surkov's real name is [[Dudayev]] is another whimsical twist of Russian history. I bet that those people who bash Putin as an inveterate anti-Chechen are not aware of the ethnicity of his principal policy-maker. The detail is encyclopaedic and highly instructive, actually. --[[User:Ghirlandajo|Ghirla]]<sup>[[User_talk:Ghirlandajo|-трёп-]]</sup> 12:56, 21 June 2007 (UTC)
:Alex, I don't share your ideas about ethnicity. [[Nathalie Sarraute]] never wrote in Russian, yet it does not prevent her from being included into [[:Category:Russian women writers]]. There are many examples along these lines. That Surkov's real name is [[Dudayev]] is another whimsical twist of Russian history. I bet that those people who bash Putin as an inveterate anti-Chechen are not aware of the ethnicity of his principal policy-maker. The detail is encyclopaedic and highly instructive, actually. --[[User:Ghirlandajo|Ghirla]]<sup>[[User_talk:Ghirlandajo|-трёп-]]</sup> 12:56, 21 June 2007 (UTC)
::That Surkov's real last name is Dudayev is certainly notable, no problems about it. It is very good for the second paragraph, etc. but not for the lead. As a matter of fact, it would be better to have more reliable sources for this than Lentapedia and Anti-Compromat because of [[WP:BLP]], but I think the refs are OK. I have removed Russian writer cats from Nathalie Sarraute, I do not think they are right here. Lets see [[Saul Bellow]] he has category Russian-American but not Russian writers [[User:Alex Bakharev|Alex Bakharev]] 14:37, 21 June 2007 (UTC)
::That Surkov's real last name is Dudayev is certainly notable, no problems about it. It is very good for the second paragraph, etc. but not for the lead. As a matter of fact, it would be better to have more reliable sources for this than Lentapedia and Anti-Compromat because of [[WP:BLP]], but I think the refs are OK. I have removed Russian writer cats from Nathalie Sarraute, I do not think they are right here. Lets see [[Saul Bellow]] he has category Russian-American but not Russian writers [[User:Alex Bakharev|Alex Bakharev]] 14:37, 21 June 2007 (UTC)
:Roots really have a practical meaning only when the person speaks the language.
:Influence, in thinking of that person, or influence by that person in that ethnic space comes through being able to converse with these people direct, without an interpreter. Does he speak the Chechen language or one of the area's languages? [[Special:Contributions/2001:8003:A070:7F00:DD2B:FF5F:D237:3044|2001:8003:A070:7F00:DD2B:FF5F:D237:3044]] ([[User talk:2001:8003:A070:7F00:DD2B:FF5F:D237:3044|talk]]) 04:59, 28 March 2022 (UTC)


=='backed anti-Putin parties'==
=='backed anti-Putin parties'==

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Name Pronunciation

Currently there's an audio file and link to the pronunciation of Vyacheslav Volodin on this page. Looks like a copy and paste error, so I'm going to remove it. Cxhh (talk) 16:09, 11 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]


Untitled

Last paragraph, which may be true, is clearly POV and speculation and should therefore be removed. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Propertius~enwiki (talk • contribs)

You're right. Deleted. Tnapoleao 22:11, 3 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Ethnicity

While his Chechen roots are interesting and notable they do not make him a Chechen businessman or Chechen politician. I strongly doubt he has support of Chechen clans or some business in Chechnya, etc. Ethnically Chechen is probably not correct either, he might be racially half-Chechen or something but we do not put it into the lead. The matters are disclosed in details in the first paragraph of biography. Thus, I have removed "ethnically Chechen" from the lead, changed Category:Chechen businesspeople to Category:Chechen people Alex Bakharev 12:42, 21 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Alex, I don't share your ideas about ethnicity. Nathalie Sarraute never wrote in Russian, yet it does not prevent her from being included into Category:Russian women writers. There are many examples along these lines. That Surkov's real name is Dudayev is another whimsical twist of Russian history. I bet that those people who bash Putin as an inveterate anti-Chechen are not aware of the ethnicity of his principal policy-maker. The detail is encyclopaedic and highly instructive, actually. --Ghirla-трёп- 12:56, 21 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
That Surkov's real last name is Dudayev is certainly notable, no problems about it. It is very good for the second paragraph, etc. but not for the lead. As a matter of fact, it would be better to have more reliable sources for this than Lentapedia and Anti-Compromat because of WP:BLP, but I think the refs are OK. I have removed Russian writer cats from Nathalie Sarraute, I do not think they are right here. Lets see Saul Bellow he has category Russian-American but not Russian writers Alex Bakharev 14:37, 21 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Roots really have a practical meaning only when the person speaks the language.
Influence, in thinking of that person, or influence by that person in that ethnic space comes through being able to converse with these people direct, without an interpreter. Does he speak the Chechen language or one of the area's languages? 2001:8003:A070:7F00:DD2B:FF5F:D237:3044 (talk) 04:59, 28 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

'backed anti-Putin parties'

User:Sayerslle added the claim that Surkov 'also backed anti-Putin parties, but then said that this was what he had done, with the result that uncertainty arose as to what was real, and what fake' sourcing this to Charlie Brooker's Screenwipe episode broadcast in December 2014. The claims in question were made in a segment produced by Adam Curtis. It is not obvious to me that this a reliable source. Where we are making claims about what a living person said, we should state where and when he said it. I will remove these claims in due course. - Crosbie 19:59, 2 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

There is an apparently accurate transcript of the segment here [1] - Crosbie 20:12, 2 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]
I have flagged this at Wikipedia:Reliable_sources/Noticeboard#Adam_Curtis_on_Vladislav_Surkov - Crosbie 08:33, 3 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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"Aslambek Dudayev"

The story about the birthname turned out to be a rumour, his mother published his birth certificate [1], his father later commented that Aslambek was a nickname used by the Chechen side of his family, not his actual first name. 88.195.110.184 (talk) 18:21, 4 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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  1. ^ http://www.mk.ru/politics/2015/06/26/svidetelstvo-o-rozhdenii-vladislava-surkova.html

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Alleged book

The book Surkov is alleged to have written seems to primarily have the title "Almost Zero" here in the English speaking part of the world. Yet the article gives the title as "Close to Zero" from what appears to be a Russian source. Should both translated titles be incorporated into the article? Comrade GC (talk) 04:51, 13 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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