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Date of death

@Kober:, hi, thanks first of all for the additions. The date of death initially included by me was 1630 as well. I based this on Mikaberidze (2015) Historical Dictionary of Georgia, p. 133. However, according to Allen, W.E.D. (1964). "Trivia Historiae Ibericae". In Salia, Kalistrat. Bedi Kartlisa, Revue de Kartvélologie. XVII-XVIII. Paris., p. 168, he "died in 1629". Given that Mikaberidze (2015) doesn't really focus too much on that part while Allen (1964) does a bit more, I then decided to use 1629 instead of 1630. Your thoughts on which of the two we should use in articles for the future? - LouisAragon (talk) 21:42, 21 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

You are welcome. Well, I do understand that. The sources are not anonymous on the date of Zurab's death. So, probably we should use both, but more recent sources such as Дворянские роды Росс. Империи том 4 do give preponderance to 1630.--Kober^Talk 04:18, 22 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

@Kober:, hmmm I see. Well, if the newer sources seem to stick to the year 1630, then I guess we should probably stick to that as well. Just in case; are there any noteworthy number of reliable sources that you know of that mention 1629? - LouisAragon (talk) 02:47, 28 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Oh, and thanks for linking that source. Looks good! Just got myself an online readable version of it as we speak. ;-) - LouisAragon (talk) 02:47, 28 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Good! Well, the book, as any other source, is not immune to inaccuracies and inconsistencies, but, by far, it is the most comprehensive and up-to-date genealogical study of the Georgian nobility. Attempts have been made by authors of those chapters to address these issues at nobility.pro, but, unfortunately, it is not yet a sufficiently well-structured source and no printed version is available. --Kober^Talk 15:09, 28 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Stop distorting Georgian History.

Eristavi had name - Zurab, if Qizilbashes called him Sohrab it means nothing. This is English Wikipedia, not Persian. Furthermore, you can not call Teimuraz I - Tahmuraz, he never converted to Islam, neither did Baadur Eristavi. The latter, even never visited Iran.--Giorgi Mechurchle (talk) 22:54, 14 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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 :::Oh, and thanks for linking that source. Looks good! Just got myself an online readable version of it as we speak. ;-) - [[User:LouisAragon|LouisAragon]] ([[User talk:LouisAragon|talk]]) 02:47, 28 March 2017 (UTC)
 ::::Good! Well, the book, as any other source, is not immune to inaccuracies and inconsistencies, but, by far, it is the most comprehensive and up-to-date genealogical study of the Georgian nobility. Attempts have been made by authors of those chapters to address these issues at [http://nobility.pro/ nobility.pro], but, unfortunately, it is not yet a sufficiently well-structured source and no printed version is available. --[[User:Kober|Kober]]<sup>[[User talk:Kober|Talk]]</sup> 15:09, 28 March 2017 (UTC)
+== Stop distorting Georgian History. ==
+Eristavi had name - Zurab, if Qizilbashes called him Sohrab it means nothing. This is English Wikipedia, not Persian. Furthermore, you can not call Teimuraz I - Tahmuraz, he never converted to Islam, neither did Baadur Eristavi. The latter, even never visited Iran.--[[User:Giorgi Mechurchle|Giorgi Mechurchle]] ([[User talk:Giorgi Mechurchle|talk]]) 22:54, 14 May 2022 (UTC)