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I will come back to this later, and if I haven't been able to find other more easily accessible sources that say the same thing, I will have to settle for a magazine reference. -- [[Special:Contributions/109.76.142.42|109.76.142.42]] ([[User talk:109.76.142.42|talk]]) 11:55, 12 June 2021 (UTC)
I will come back to this later, and if I haven't been able to find other more easily accessible sources that say the same thing, I will have to settle for a magazine reference. -- [[Special:Contributions/109.76.142.42|109.76.142.42]] ([[User talk:109.76.142.42|talk]]) 11:55, 12 June 2021 (UTC)
: The [[Internet Archive]] magazine rack does have a copy of the magazine special mentioned above. The article [https://archive.org/details/Star_Trek_Special_Edition_2016_USA/page/n29/mode/2up?q=%22Fred+Dekker%22 Subspace Turbulence] begins on page 30, and the [https://archive.org/details/Star_Trek_Special_Edition_2016_USA/page/n31/mode/1up?q=kursk Kursk] is mentioned on page 33. This makes using it as source (and other editors being able to [[WP:VERIFY|verify it]]) a whole lot simpler. He makes some comments about [[The Andorian Incident]] that should also be useful, but doesn't comment directly on [[Vox Sola]]. -- [[Special:Contributions/109.76.142.42|109.76.142.42]] ([[User talk:109.76.142.42|talk]]) 20:28, 12 June 2021 (UTC)
: The [[Internet Archive]] magazine rack does have a copy of the magazine special mentioned above. The article [https://archive.org/details/Star_Trek_Special_Edition_2016_USA/page/n29/mode/2up?q=%22Fred+Dekker%22 Subspace Turbulence] begins on page 30, and the [https://archive.org/details/Star_Trek_Special_Edition_2016_USA/page/n31/mode/1up?q=kursk Kursk] is mentioned on page 33. This makes using it as source (and other editors being able to [[WP:VERIFY|verify it]]) a whole lot simpler. He makes some comments about [[The Andorian Incident]] that should also be useful, but doesn't comment directly on [[Vox Sola]]. -- [[Special:Contributions/109.76.142.42|109.76.142.42]] ([[User talk:109.76.142.42|talk]]) 20:28, 12 June 2021 (UTC)

Found an article about the ship shown in this episode, a Klingon RAPTOR class scout vessel. https://archive.org/details/startrekmagazine03unse_9/page/74/mode/2up -- [[Special:Contributions/109.76.195.193|109.76.195.193]] ([[User talk:109.76.195.193|talk]]) 03:30, 1 July 2022 (UTC)


== Reception ==
== Reception ==

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Kursk submarine disaster

This episode was inspired by the Kursk submarine disaster (August, 2000).

I found this information in an old Star Trek Magazine Special from 2016, in an interview with Fred Dekker titled "Subspace Turbulence" written by Callum Waddell. (Memory Alpha doesn't even mention it yet.) There was also a note saying that article was a reprint, the interview having first appeared in issue 53. The magazine was published by Titan magazines, ISSN: 1357-3888 TMN 13163.

Dekker said it was his favorite of the three episodes on which he was credited, but he complained that his episodes were "meddled with" and "heavily rewritten". The interview also mentions The Andorian Incident and other episodes.

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I looked for other sources that were more easily verifiable online. So far, I found a book that mentions the connection between "Sleeping Dogs" and the Kursk but it is in German. The google books preview image is not easy to translate so I'm not sure if the author is making a comparison or if he knows the link was intentional. Meyer, Uwe (2008). We only want to be your partners : Star Trek--Enterprise : politisch-ideologische Dimensionen einer Fernsehserie zwischen Kaltem Krieg und war on terror (in German). Frankfurt am Main: Lang. p. 59. ISBN 9783631566800.
Jammer's Reviews noticed it was a submarine movie type episode, but didn't make the Kursk connection.[1]

I will come back to this later, and if I haven't been able to find other more easily accessible sources that say the same thing, I will have to settle for a magazine reference. -- 109.76.142.42 (talk) 11:55, 12 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

The Internet Archive magazine rack does have a copy of the magazine special mentioned above. The article Subspace Turbulence begins on page 30, and the Kursk is mentioned on page 33. This makes using it as source (and other editors being able to verify it) a whole lot simpler. He makes some comments about The Andorian Incident that should also be useful, but doesn't comment directly on Vox Sola. -- 109.76.142.42 (talk) 20:28, 12 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Found an article about the ship shown in this episode, a Klingon RAPTOR class scout vessel. https://archive.org/details/startrekmagazine03unse_9/page/74/mode/2up -- 109.76.195.193 (talk) 03:30, 1 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Reception

Robert Bianco of USA Today highlighted the episode "What's on TV: Wednesday" (January 30, 2002). The web archive does not have a capture of that specific day unfortunately (only the Thursday a week after[2] or the Thursday a week before[3]) but via TrekWeb we have do have a substantial quote (that I strongly suspect amounts to the entire note about the episode):
"Those rash explorers on the Enterprise... rush to the aid of a disabled Klingon vessel, only to be trapped in an ambush. How many times are these spacekids going to have bad encounters with the Klingons before they figure out they have to be a bit more cautious."

Does that technically count as a review? Not sure. It is vaguely critical of the episode. -- 109.76.142.30 (talk) 07:17, 13 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]