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::{{u|SkylerLovefist}} Without naming names - as I've dealt with more than one of these types of editors in a decade and a half - I have a theory about why some editors have that high horse attitude. It's because on Wikipedia they feel like they are 10 feet tall behind the keyboard, and can act on their smugness here in a way they can't in the real world. In the real world, they are nobodies who are either ignored or brushed off by people with better things to do than deal with them. But when they get on here and preach the virtues of WP:This and WP:That, it makes them feel high and mighty, and they get a rush out of that. Now having said all that, and acknowledging ---Censored to avoid [[WP:Personal]] accusations--- has issues on his side of the fence (to say the least), it wouldn't hurt you either to use more carrot and less 2X4 in dealing with him. And also watch yourself with the machine gun style rapid fire reverts, as that just gives the higher-ups a reason to drop the hammer under [[WP:3R]]. Just trying to keep you around here and not disappear into the [[Land of the Lost (1974 TV series)|Land of the Lost]]...trust me, after 3 days Marshall, Will, and Holly wear on you. [[user:Vjmlhds|Vjmlhds]] [[user talk:Vjmlhds|(talk)]] 23:05, 1 July 2022 (UTC)
::{{u|SkylerLovefist}} Without naming names - as I've dealt with more than one of these types of editors in a decade and a half - I have a theory about why some editors have that high horse attitude. It's because on Wikipedia they feel like they are 10 feet tall behind the keyboard, and can act on their smugness here in a way they can't in the real world. In the real world, they are nobodies who are either ignored or brushed off by people with better things to do than deal with them. But when they get on here and preach the virtues of WP:This and WP:That, it makes them feel high and mighty, and they get a rush out of that. Now having said all that, and acknowledging ---Censored to avoid [[WP:Personal]] accusations--- has issues on his side of the fence (to say the least), it wouldn't hurt you either to use more carrot and less 2X4 in dealing with him. And also watch yourself with the machine gun style rapid fire reverts, as that just gives the higher-ups a reason to drop the hammer under [[WP:3R]]. Just trying to keep you around here and not disappear into the [[Land of the Lost (1974 TV series)|Land of the Lost]]...trust me, after 3 days Marshall, Will, and Holly wear on you. [[user:Vjmlhds|Vjmlhds]] [[user talk:Vjmlhds|(talk)]] 23:05, 1 July 2022 (UTC)
:::Yeah bud, that was frustration speaking on my part more than anything. I appreciate the neutrality some people were trying to bring to that and the 3RR thing was more me not realising the discussion had been posted on the List of Impact talent page. I just think it's silly going "This needs a source" on everything, or nitpicking about sources on everything. I keep asking where we draw the line and how strict we need to be. I never seem to get a straight answer from the culprits. Strange that. I feel like your theory has merit about that kind of behaviour too. Especially when those people's entire history is undoing everyone else's edits rather than adding to articles and helping out. [[User:SkylerLovefist|SkylerLovefist]] ([[User talk:SkylerLovefist|talk]]) 00:07, 2 July 2022 (UTC)
:::Yeah bud, that was frustration speaking on my part more than anything. I appreciate the neutrality some people were trying to bring to that and the 3RR thing was more me not realising the discussion had been posted on the List of Impact talent page. I just think it's silly going "This needs a source" on everything, or nitpicking about sources on everything. I keep asking where we draw the line and how strict we need to be. I never seem to get a straight answer from the culprits. Strange that. I feel like your theory has merit about that kind of behaviour too. Especially when those people's entire history is undoing everyone else's edits rather than adding to articles and helping out. [[User:SkylerLovefist|SkylerLovefist]] ([[User talk:SkylerLovefist|talk]]) 00:07, 2 July 2022 (UTC)
::::Hear the one about the Wikipedian who was watching his house burn down in a fire? His neighbor goes up to him and says "Oh my God, your house is on fire! Why aren't you calling the fire department?! The Wikipedian says "I need to have it verified by a reliable source that the house is in fact on fire, otherwise it's original research." Just making a point about how ludicrous it would be if we applied the stringent Wiki logic to the real world. Vjmlhds 04:02, 2 July 2022 (UTC) Vjmlhds 04:02, 2 July 2022 (UTC)


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Belt collector?

Re your claim that Impact Wrestling recognises Matt Cardona as a belt collector - do you have a reliable source for this? I did a Google search for this limiting the search to the Impact website and nothing popped up. If there isn't a reliable source to confirm this I believe the titles they don't recognise individually should not be there. That means all of them except the NWA title and Impact's own titles. Addicted4517 (talk) 22:39, 8 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Discussion on the Impact Roster talk page.

Hey bud. There's a discussion going on on the Impact Roster talk page pertaining to the Cardona Belt Collector edit and what I perceive to be WP:Own behaviour with a particular user if you'd like to give some input. SkylerLovefist (talk) 02:32, 13 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Interesting, going by that discussion, apparently we're "close to being reported for disruptive editing." Because we don't meet one user's specifications. Which, you know. Isn't the thing I'm complaining about, honest. I don't see how you're doing any disruptive editing. Or myself, but I'm the one who started the discussion. SkylerLovefist (talk) 04:30, 14 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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So we now have a discussion on the Impact talk page...

Czello has created a discussion regarding the edit which shouldn't have been undone to start with you may want to join in with. HHHPedrigree agrees the title should stay... In spite of trying to remove the edit a few days ago.

I think I'm tapping out with editing this website in all honesty, man. I've had a gutsful of him and Addicted gatekeeping and getting away with it. SkylerLovefist (talk) 09:37, 24 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I'm moving this here from the other talk page to keep it on topic. SkylerLovefist's actual reason for this ban is not what I was talking about. It was his underlying attitude over sources. I'm calling you paranoid because you are making assumptions that are not correct - exactly what he has been doing. Indeed, you did it again claiming I'm talking down to people and "basically saying I need someone in my ear to tell me how to think, and that I can't come to my own conclusions" That is false. I am not telling you how to think. If you wish to make the same errors I can't stop you. That is up to you. All I am advising is that you take a step back, look at what other users are saying about the situation (eg HHH Pedrigree re sources over consensus) and then make your own decision. At present it would appear that you are not listening to anyone let alone me - except for SkylerLovefist. Addicted4517 (talk) 09:50, 25 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Addicted4517 It looks to me that Skyler is living rent free in your head, because you always bring him up. Any beef I have with you is just based on my own observations - not Skyler's or anyone else's. Any beef you have with Skyler is between you and him...don't use me as a proxy. He's gone (for at least a week), so he's a non factor. Whatever issue you have with me, address with me and to me. Don't keep bringing up Skyler, because as he is blocked and can't respond to defend himself, you are beating a dead horse. Vjmlhds 14:28, 25 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I only bring him up if it's appropriate. For the record, I think I'm in his head rent free but anyway. The point is you are showing the same signs of behaviour as him. That is the reason why it's appropriate. And no, he is not a non factor (LOL at the reflections below) and that is why you are incorrect about the dead horse reflection. Addicted4517 (talk) 23:31, 25 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I can tell I'm too much of a wrestling fan because when you said he's a non factor all I could remember was when Austin said "let's take Debra out of the equation, bam she's a non-factor. Anyway, I'll let you two get back to it. — Czello 14:53, 25 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Czello Great main event to arguably the greatest wrestling PPV of all time. Vjmlhds 15:03, 25 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Addicted4517 I never went into this looking for a reason to do battle, but I will defend myself. Having said that, now that it looks like everything's settled with the reason this whole tadoo came about in the first place, let's touch gloves, go back to our corners, and chill, OK? BTW, fair being fair, I think you and Skyler are kinda both in each other's head. He complains about you, you complain about him, and the wheels on the bus go round and round. Once he gets off his block, it wouldn't hurt you 2 to have a powwow to clear the air. But to the here and now, I'm willing to pound gloves and call it a day, what say you? Vjmlhds 00:45, 26 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I'll just say that he complains a lot more about me than I do about him and my complaints are a lot more measured - and leave it at that. Addicted4517 (talk) 01:54, 26 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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So, you wanted to have a chat?

Well, I'm finally off postblock, and I saw your message. First off, I apologise for kind of dragging you into things. I just come to you because you're actually reasonable and someone who will actually compromise if we disagree.

Now, about my little problem with certain people, you've summed up a good part of my issue. The holier than thou behaviour and the WP:OWN tendsncies. In fact, that drama over the Impact article wouldn't have happened had said person not shown up acting in said fashion, along with showing they weren't even aware Impact works with New Japan to start with. There's also the lack of willingness to be wrong and work with others. Every time you point out a flaw, it's either "I'm telling on you for breaching WP:CIVIL" or "B-b-but Skyler!"

I'm all for working with people. But the key word here is "with" people. I shouldn't feel like I'm fighting an uphill battle to make valid edits because people keep being unreasonable with guidelines. SkylerLovefist (talk) 18:40, 1 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

SkylerLovefist Without naming names - as I've dealt with more than one of these types of editors in a decade and a half - I have a theory about why some editors have that high horse attitude. It's because on Wikipedia they feel like they are 10 feet tall behind the keyboard, and can act on their smugness here in a way they can't in the real world. In the real world, they are nobodies who are either ignored or brushed off by people with better things to do than deal with them. But when they get on here and preach the virtues of WP:This and WP:That, it makes them feel high and mighty, and they get a rush out of that. Now having said all that, and acknowledging ---Censored to avoid WP:Personal accusations--- has issues on his side of the fence (to say the least), it wouldn't hurt you either to use more carrot and less 2X4 in dealing with him. And also watch yourself with the machine gun style rapid fire reverts, as that just gives the higher-ups a reason to drop the hammer under WP:3R. Just trying to keep you around here and not disappear into the Land of the Lost...trust me, after 3 days Marshall, Will, and Holly wear on you. Vjmlhds (talk) 23:05, 1 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Yeah bud, that was frustration speaking on my part more than anything. I appreciate the neutrality some people were trying to bring to that and the 3RR thing was more me not realising the discussion had been posted on the List of Impact talent page. I just think it's silly going "This needs a source" on everything, or nitpicking about sources on everything. I keep asking where we draw the line and how strict we need to be. I never seem to get a straight answer from the culprits. Strange that. I feel like your theory has merit about that kind of behaviour too. Especially when those people's entire history is undoing everyone else's edits rather than adding to articles and helping out. SkylerLovefist (talk) 00:07, 2 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Hear the one about the Wikipedian who was watching his house burn down in a fire? His neighbor goes up to him and says "Oh my God, your house is on fire! Why aren't you calling the fire department?! The Wikipedian says "I need to have it verified by a reliable source that the house is in fact on fire, otherwise it's original research." Just making a point about how ludicrous it would be if we applied the stringent Wiki logic to the real world. Vjmlhds 04:02, 2 July 2022 (UTC) Vjmlhds 04:02, 2 July 2022 (UTC)
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Your instincts were right. The image was a copyvio, but it was an overwrite of a properly licensed crop of Rousey. I've reverted the copyvio on Commons and restored the use of the Commons image on the list article. As such, I don't think this cropped image is needed. If you feel this is a better crop, feel free to remove the PROD and reinstate the image you just uploaded. Regards. -- Whpq (talk) 18:44, 1 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Whpq Go ahead and dump my pic, the pic you put up there is fine...I just did mine as an insurance policy in case the original got wiped out entirely. Vjmlhds 23:08, 1 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]