Talk:Power Rangers Operation Overdrive

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Official Actors

Since Kyl and Burg failing WP:RS is apparently no longer an issue, perhaps someone should integrate the information from [[1]], which includes the names of the five actors playing the Rangers. I'd add it myself, but I have only 5 minutes of access left on this library PC. Arrow 21:00, 2 January 2007 (UTC)

I'll do it.—Ryūlóng (竜龍) 21:10, 2 January 2007 (UTC)

OO premiere episode titles

I saw what Arrow posted on this talk page saying that BurgundyRanger not being reliable isn't a problem anymore, so i'll post this information here. On BurgundyRanger's website, he has this info listed:

Power Rangers Operation Overdrive 1701 / 1702: Kick Into Overdrive, I / II Toon Disney: Monday, Feb. 26, 8:00 p.m.

I just wanted to let you know about that. I posted the episode titles earlier and they were removed, even though they are correct. The info is straight from BurgundyRanger, so there's no problem believing it.HAVortexDude 22:02, 15 January 2007 (UTC)

This is useless and we already knew that even before you even posted bro.74.195.3.199 17:04, 16 January 2007 (UTC)

If it was already known, then why was it not posted on wikipedia? I simply put that here to make sure it didn't get removed like episode titles did last year with Mystic Force. HAVortexDude 23:36, 24 January 2007 (UTC)

Just ignore that.—Ryūlóng (竜龍) 23:43, 24 January 2007 (UTC)

.............23:13, 29 January 2007 (UTC)23:13, 29 January 2007 (UTC)74.195.3.199

Super DriveMax Source

Here's another source for the Super DriveMax Megazord: http://www.toymania.com/news/messages/8955.shtml

It says this: OPERATION OVERDRIVE DELUXE MEGAZORDS - The awesome DriveMax and Super DriveMax Megazords are made up of 5 highly detailed and different vehicle Zords. Each Megazord can also be transformed into a cool truck for even more vehicle action. Lights and sounds are also featured in all three modes: Vehicle, Megazord, and Truck.

I understand what you mean about Linear Ranger and needing a more official source, so I think this qualifies. Glad I could help. HAVortexDude 22:03, 15 January 2007 (UTC)

How did LR come into the discussion?74.195.3.199 17:05, 16 January 2007 (UTC)

He used it as a ref.—Ryūlóng (竜龍) 19:59, 16 January 2007 (UTC)

If the "Kick into Overdrive" is the name of the Operation Overdrive first episode...

...then it also should be the morphing call, since the first episode of Power Rangers Turbo, "Shift into Turbo", was also the Turbo Rangers' morphing call.134.39.100.71 18:15, 24 January 2007 (UTC)

It is all based off what is known from what has been released officially, which is the toy line's packaging. S.P.D.'s morphing call, nor was Mystic Force's was not used in any episode titles.—Ryūlóng (竜龍) 19:05, 18 January 2007 (UTC)

That's not what he means, Ryu, he's using it as an reference more of an allusion at this point.74.195.3.199 19:33, 18 January 2007 (UTC)

Well, looks like the morphing call for "Power Rangers Operation Overdrive" is "Overdrive, accelerate!"

I forgot to mention this but its confirmed anyways so I guess I shoulda posted it.

http://rangerboard.com/showthread.php?t=99627

The title for episode 3 is The Underwater World.74.195.3.199 19:42, 23 January 2007 (UTC)

I found it. It'd be easier if people put the link in the edit summary.—Ryūlóng (竜龍) 19:48, 23 January 2007 (UTC)

B/C thats too easy. Also, you have Mack's name in quotation marks. Why isnt Mackenzie there anyways?74.195.3.199 21:20, 23 January 2007 (UTC)

We're waiting for a confirmed last name. "Mack" is his nickname, just like "Chip" was a nickname.—Ryūlóng (竜龍) 20:56, 24 January 2007 (UTC)

I'm talking about his first name. His last name has nothing to do with this but since he's Hartford's son I think its safe to say that's it. Anyways, you took off the 3rd episode title, Why?

Problem is that last I checked, Kyl wasn't sure on the last name. He had like twenty of them in his original post.—Ryūlóng (竜龍) 21:09, 24 January 2007 (UTC)

Lmao, he did? You have the link? That's soo funny. He's turning into Dukemon22, lol.74.195.3.199 21:31, 24 January 2007 (UTC)

It's the first external link on the page. He can't decide between "Hartford", "Standish" etc.—Ryūlóng (竜龍) 21:46, 24 January 2007 (UTC)

Its gone again.74.195.3.199 04:32, 25 January 2007 (UTC)

here—Ryūlóng (竜龍) 04:35, 25 January 2007 (UTC)

No not that, the title. But thanks anyways.74.195.3.199 05:23, 25 January 2007 (UTC)

Whos ever deleting the title for episode 3 needs to stop, NOW.74.195.3.199 03:24, 26 January 2007 (UTC)

Issues

Per Wikipedia is not a crystal ball and Wikipedia:Reliable sources I have removed all information from the article that cannot be reliably sourced to a secondary source. Kyl and BurgundyRanger, despite being relied upon in the community, cannot be cited per the above concerns. As such, I have removed any information from the article that is unknown outside of Disney's workers or affiliates. This includes the episode list, synopsis, and cast members that are not supported by other sources (if someone can cite information at Yuen's, Benta's, and Montemayor's talent agents, then do so).—Ryūlóng (竜龍) 22:39, 29 January 2007 (UTC)

Why would you do something like that? Are you on something? Its a pretty known fact that those are rangers. LOL. DID YOU NOT READ THE PRESS RELEASE? 22:57, 29 January 2007 (UTC)

http://rangerboard.com/showthread.php?t=99858 74.195.3.199 23:00, 29 January 2007 (UTC)

Has the press release been released to the public? That is what's important here.—Ryūlóng (竜龍) 00:43, 30 January 2007 (UTC)

Evidentally, it has, how else would we obtain it, Ryu *shrugs*. Most of the PR are verbatim what is being said in the above mentioned interviews.74.195.3.199 01:14, 30 January 2007 (UTC)

We wait for the series to air or some other printed source that mentions stuff like "X portrays the Red Ranger" or "The next episode is titled Y" indirectly from the sources that Kyl and Burg have (TV Guide has episodes two weeks in advance, commercials would have the same information).—Ryūlóng (竜龍) 01:20, 30 January 2007 (UTC)

I don't see how that's even different....74.195.3.199 01:21, 30 January 2007 (UTC)

TV Guide is a reliable secondary source.—Ryūlóng (竜龍) 01:23, 30 January 2007 (UTC)

And so are they. In the 5 years they been doing this, 4 for KLY, HAVE they been wrong once?74.195.3.199 01:24, 30 January 2007 (UTC)

They are not secondary sources. And the fact that they haven't been wrong once is not the issue. The issue is that we cannot use them as a resource on Wikipedia.—Ryūlóng (竜龍) 01:28, 30 January 2007 (UTC)

I see what you mean. Im thinking you claiming them as PRIMARY sources, lol.74.195.3.199 01:32, 30 January 2007 (UTC)

In a nutshell

Wikipedia needs verifiable and reliably sourced information. Kyl and BurgundyRanger fall under the part of the reliable sources guideline that concerns Bulletin boards, wikis and posts to Usenet.

Since people such as ourselves are not privy to the information that Kyl and Burg get via their jobs affiliated with the Disney Company, the information they provide cannot be reliably sourced to anyone but themselves, and Wikipedia cannot use that information.

Additionally, since most of the information cannot be sourced, it is removed because Wikipedia:What Wikipedia is not#Wikipedia is not a crystal ball. That article had way too many spoilers for a series that will not air for another month. And unlike information at Jyuken Sentai Gekiranger, we cannot source the spoilers to magazine scans yet. All that we know is what is on Disney's website and what comes out in the preview commercials.—Ryūlóng (竜龍) 01:30, 30 January 2007 (UTC)

I thought this issue was resolved on wikipedia cause for a little while, you were saying wikipedia accepts info from Burg and Kyl. Wikipedia is crap if it doesn't have all the information we know. I've been trying to edit in new information when we get it, but screw it. I give up. You can have fun with wikipedia and their crap rules about reliable sources. I'm through editing information.—The preceding unsigned comment was added by HAVortexDude (talk • contribs).

I feel your pain.74.195.3.199 14:34, 30 January 2007 (UTC)

It seems as though the rules are more important than the information. It's not like Wiki is gonna swoop in and shut it down just because a rule got bent a little.

The issue came up, again, because it's impossible to source anything to either Kyl or Burg. Wikipedia has rules and guidelines, and I understand that you were helping. It's just that after I was trying to find out where the newest episode title came from, I realized that it's a title for two months in advance. We should not have spoilers for a series that has not aired yet unless they release information to the public about it. If you can find a source that is not Kyl or Burg, then by all means we'll edit it in. But until the series airs, we don't know anything verifiable.—Ryūlóng (竜龍) 02:37, 30 January 2007 (UTC)

Episode 4 Title

Episode 4's title has been announced

4)Heart of Blue - 3/12 - 9:00 pm - Toon Disney

I already listed it in the previous post.23:36, 29 January 2007 (UTC)

Per WP:CRYSTAL we cannot list episodes that far in advance without a secondary source. Kyl and Burg are not reliable sources, as they have connections that make them primary sources.—Ryūlóng (竜龍) 00:44, 30 January 2007 (UTC)

YES, they do. And I told you this. We are part of the Media website also ABC, that OFFICIALLY lists these names. STOP DENYING IT. I find it rather funny that this sites been up since 2003/2004 and you're are NOW worried what Wiki says....74.195.3.199 01:13, 30 January 2007 (UTC)

What is the website? Where does ABC officially list these names? I've never seen this source. There is nothing wrong with what they do, but the fact that we cannot back up the claims with an alternate non-primary source. If the ABC media website is accessible to everyone then that can be our source. Right now, I don't have any information that it is.—Ryūlóng (竜龍) 01:22, 30 January 2007 (UTC)

Can you prove that you're affiliated with such official sources (and that you're authorized to speak for them)? If not, then how can we be sure your information is correct. jgpTC 02:52, 30 January 2007 (UTC)

I don't see why you make this big fuss when you can directly ask them yourself.74.195.3.199 01:24, 30 January 2007 (UTC)

They hate my guts.—Ryūlóng (竜龍) 01:31, 30 January 2007 (UTC)

They can't jump on you for TCOB, IMO. Just tell them the Wiki wants to verify some stuff. Why are they made at you? For denying them?74.195.3.199 01:34, 30 January 2007 (UTC)

A whole mess that I don't have the time to discuss now.—Ryūlóng (竜龍) 01:37, 30 January 2007 (UTC)

Episode 5 Title

According to a Kalish interview on his MS, the 5th episode is called Whether or Not and airs, 3/19.74.195.3.199 22:54, 5 February 2007 (UTC)

Link?—Ryūlóng (竜龍) 22:54, 5 February 2007 (UTC)

http://rangerboard.com/showthread.php?t=100172, http://us.f625.mail.yahoo.com/dc/launch?.rand=2cebnvml6kop5.22:57, 5 February 2007 (UTC)

Can't use either. We need reliable sources that can not be an e-mail or RB.—Ryūlóng (竜龍) 22:57, 5 February 2007 (UTC)

Okayyyyyyyy, but we'll see when the time comes....that's all I'm saying about that note, Ryu. Sources, mources, I see if Wiki was actually a paid site/affiliate that not anyone can edit. But whatever. They got someone running these PR pages who no squat about the actual series, know offense.74.195.3.199 23:04, 5 February 2007 (UTC)

That is not the issue here and you know that. The issue is we can't use Kyle, Burgundy, PA, etc. as reliable sources. It's not how Wikipedia works.—Ryūlóng (竜龍) 02:15, 6 February 2007 (UTC)

This is kinda the same response you gave 2 seasons in a row and look what happened...74.195.3.199 03:01, 8 February 2007 (UTC)

That's because it's still the same issue. Kyle, Burg, PA, you, anyone who has inside connections cannot be used as a source for information on Wikipedia. End of discussion.—Ryūlóng (竜龍) 03:08, 8 February 2007 (UTC)

In about a week, if they appear here, then we can list those that are known from similar sources.—Ryūlóng (竜龍) 03:09, 8 February 2007 (UTC)

I agree, Ryu and then you were wrong there, and the titles came true and appeared in TVG as well, so what's the problem? I'll wait a week like you said but you didn't have to lock the entire page down because of it.74.195.3.199 04:31, 8 February 2007 (UTC)

The fact that the titles later appeared in TVG is unimportant. Yes, Kyl, Burg, and the others are very reliable for the fansites. Wikipedia is not a fansite, and we need to back up claims that are made about anything. In the case of an unaired television series, unless the production company releases information prior to its publication in another source, then we can use that as a source.—Ryūlóng (竜龍) 05:47, 8 February 2007 (UTC)

Does Toon Zone -- http://www.toonzone.net/schedule/displaySeries.php?seriesID=235&networkID=12 -- count?

Toon Zone does not count, because it is also "unofficial" as stated at the bottom of their page.—Ryūlóng (竜龍) 05:50, 8 February 2007 (UTC)

You've got an answer for everything, Ryu.74.195.3.199 21:52, 8 February 2007 (UTC)

Bit more information. Completely verified by Jetix.com

Jetix has updated their nifty secret site: http://tv.disney.go.com/jetix/rangersecrets/index2.html

Within these clips, we find out several interesting things.

The Chillers are indeed based of of the Karths from Boukenger, and they are Flurious's soldiers, confirming that he is based off of Gajah from Boukenger.

Zuban will be the Templar Knight, and now has a fancy cloak. There are more things, but the video player busted on my computer, so can someone else finish them up and see if there is anything significant?

They made a full 30 minute episode out of them (with full show opening). Kelson Henderson is back as Norg the Yeti. He looks like he works for Flurious. one of the ninja groups monsters will be called "Bombardo".Metropod 01:35, 17 February 2007 (UTC)

Oh, and since Ryulong protected the page, I guess he'll have to be the one to do it. Floria L 17:59, 9 February 2007 (UTC)

And why in the hell was my post deleted when I posted it first?74.195.3.199

I have lowered the protection back down to semi-protection. I'll contact GrnRngr or JGP to fill in the info.—Ryūlóng (竜龍) 21:55, 9 February 2007 (UTC)

Ryu, you still think we were wrong?74.195.3.199 03:09, 10 February 2007 (UTC)

I never said you were wrong. I said that we could not use you as primary sources.—Ryūlóng (竜龍) 04:03, 10 February 2007 (UTC)

That's rather odd, but carry on then.74.195.3.199 05:17, 10 February 2007 (UTC)

Rod Lousich

According to [2], Rod Lousich will be playing Andrew Hartford and it's a "series lead". Maybe we should add him, considering this also sort of confirms that his last name is most definately Hartford. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 67.186.162.2 (talk) 18:08, 11 February 2007 (UTC).

That definitely works.—Ryūlóng (竜龍) 20:54, 11 February 2007 (UTC)

He needs to add the rest of the cast why he's being "slow"?74.195.3.199 21:43, 11 February 2007 (UTC)

What?—Ryūlóng (竜龍) 21:53, 11 February 2007 (UTC)

NY Toy Fair 2007 reveals new megazord names.

From the press release from Bandai: "The deluxe DualDrive Megazord for the Fall is made up of five highly detailed vehiclethemed Zords that can also morph into truck mode for more action. Combine the deluxe DriveMax (from the Spring) and DualDrive together to make the Dual DriveMax Megazord. Both of them also include cool lights and battle sounds."

Press Release can be seen here: http://www.bandai.com/about/pr.cfm?pr_id=151 —The preceding unsigned comment was added by HAVortexDude (talk • contribs) 23:36, 12 February 2007 (UTC).

We get TOY FAIR's now? Alright.74.195.3.199 22:12, 15 February 2007 (UTC)

Mercury ranger

I think we should include a section on him since he's the next to join.74.195.3.199 21:28, 16 February 2007 (UTC)

Is there a source on a Disney site that mentions him (ie, have you not learned by now)?—Ryūlóng (竜龍) 00:08, 17 February 2007 (UTC)

Okay then. Not sure how to incorporate this right now.—Ryūlóng (竜龍) 00:20, 17 February 2007 (UTC)

In preparation for the premiere

Within the next week we should remove some of the things on the page that is clearly information before the premiere of the new season.RangerKing 20:01, 19 February 2007 (UTC)

Well, there is still information that we do not know about the show until it premieres. When the premiere occurs, we can integrate the old information with the new.—Ryūlóng (竜龍) 21:02, 19 February 2007 (UTC)

Which makes no sense as the episodes are up then off again, :rolleyes:74.195.3.199 08:05, 22 February 2007 (UTC)