Talk:2022 alleged plot to kill Coutts RCMP officers

Defendants

Anthony Olienick, Jerry Morin, Chris Carbert and Chris Lysak are primarily known for a single event. Thus per WP:SINGLEEVENT, they should not all have their own permanent stand-alone encyclopedia articles: they would be quite redundant. They should be redirected and described as warranted (with due caution per WP:BLP and WP:NPF) --Animalparty! (talk) 08:22, 3 December 2022 (UTC)

Oppose The logic in the proposal doesn't match my reading of the guidance. Even if it was correct that they were "primarily known" for one single event, they would need to be only known for one even for WP:BLP1E to apply. i.e. even if they are just a little bit known for more than one event, still WP:BLP1E would not apply. There are two reasons for that:

1. BLP1E has three criteria. All three must be met. The second is that they are likely to remain a low profile individual. As each of them are involved in one one of the most notable events of 2022 and are going to involved in what will inevitably be a notable court case in 2023, that does not apply. The third essential component of WP:BLP1E us third is that their role is not substantial nor not well documented. For each of them it is both.
2. BLP1E also does not apply because each of them so far is notable for more than 1 event. For all it is the alleged events in Coutts and then it is pre-trial court cases. Both these events attracted separate media attention. See WP:NOTBLP1E for an essay that gives a clear explanation about this.

Also there is sufficient content about each of them to create more than a stub, a good measure about if we should create an article.

More importantly, each of them has WP:SIGNIFICANT coverage in reliable sources, as per WP:GNG which is the benchmark for if we should have an individual article. Each of them has attracted individual media attention, they are not just handled as a group.

Merging them to a article that will inevitably grow will mean dropping details about their backgrounds, which is encyclopaedically relevant and interesting for such high profile events.

And finally, there is consensus to have biographical articles about notable people who are known primarily for being associated with a major terrorist or crime events, we even have categories of such people, check out here and here and here CT55555(talk) 13:18, 3 December 2022 (UTC)

• Support - A quick read of each person's article shows they are notable only for this alleged crime. A merge makes it easier for readers to get the encyclopedic content they are looking for in one place. Magnolia677 (talk) 13:34, 3 December 2022 (UTC)
• Support per WP:BLP1E. Love of Corey (talk) 21:08, 3 December 2022 (UTC)

Errors

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coutts_alleged_terrorism_plot

There are no terrorism charges, this title is based on the author opinion.

The reference to the Calgary Herald article…clearly the article states that a person (who was not at the protest) had requested that some shared on social media…the ideal to alter the government. It does not indicate that this was the wish of the protestor them-self. You state that the police suspect this is so, however the article does not state that directly. It states that this was “discussed”. This is the opinion of your author.

Olienick charge of explosives has been stayed. All four have mischief snd weapon of dangerous purpose charges.

“The protest was the start of a convoy of protestors that later proceeded to Ottawa.” -this is untrue. People who left for Ottawa had done so a week prior to the Coutts protest. Ottawa and Coutts started on the same day. You reference The Globe and Mail here “The protest started as a rolling convoy in support of a larger convoy of vehicles that eventually took over downtown Ottawa.” Which does not imply the same thing you are implying.

You write: “Police ended the protest on February 15, 2022, after the arrests” and reference The Globe and Mail. Their article states “Protesters in Coutts dismantled the border blockade Feb. 15, after RCMP charged the four men with conspiracy to commit murder and others with lesser crimes. The broader group said they did not want to be associated with violence and guns.” 207.148.176.188 (talk) 22:49, 23 December 2022 (UTC)