Talk:Relationship between Google and Wikipedia

Page title

Couldn't this also be called Google's relationship with Wikipedia? Perhaps Google and Wikipedia is most concise and neutral (and alphabetical)? ---Another Believer _(Talk) 22:25, 23 January 2019 (UTC)

@Another Believer: Thanks for the comment. It could be. "Intersection articles" are challenging to title.

For precedent we have lots of intersection medical articles, like at Epidemiology of HIV/AIDS we have HIV/AIDS in the Caribbean which could be "The Caribbean and HIV/AIDS".

Currently the page is "Wikipedia's relationship with Google". I am going to go with your short and alphabetical suggestion to "Google and Wikipedia". Blue Rasberry (talk) 23:35, 23 January 2019 (UTC)

Thanks! ---Another Believer _(Talk) 23:49, 23 January 2019 (UTC)

Knowledge Graph

I've added Knowledge Graph as a See also link for now, but we might want to incorporate this into the article's prose somehow. ---Another Believer _(Talk) 22:28, 23 January 2019 (UTC)

Google stock

In 2008 the audit reported that the WMF gained and sold 72 shares of Google stock.

• https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/foundation/4/4c/Wikimedia_20072008_fs.pdf
  • KPMG audit

For some reason, the 2009 audit mentions that in the previous year the WMF sold these stock.

• https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/foundation/4/4f/FINAL_08_09From_KPMG.pdf

Right now the value of that stock would be US$85,000. The report does not mention how much the stock was sold for at the time.

I am not sure of when and how the WMF came to receive this stock. If this was a donation from Google then it seems rather small, and at the time, I expect that Google as a company would have thought it was odd to give stock to an NGO which otherwise was not managing investments. Blue Rasberry (talk) 15:46, 22 August 2019 (UTC)

@Bluerasberry: Sometimes stock is given and held in trust instead of giving a donation of cash. Could this have been an example of that? –MJL ‐Talk‐^☖ 16:27, 22 August 2019 (UTC)

@MJL: Yes, that part is not unusual. Also this is not such a large amount of money that anyone needs to think too much about it. It looks like in 2008 the stock was worth about $500 a share, so US$36,000. The strange parts are that it seems to have come from Google and not Google.org, and that later gifts got media mentions, and that this came at a time when $36,000 merited a paragraph description in 2 WMF annual reports.

Maybe the most likely explanation is that Google was in a position to give money and someone at Google thought that the Wikipedia ecosystem was a good target to encourage with some pool of a gift budget. I am only noting this in looking for historical records about the relationship between Google and Wikipedia. Maybe there is no published media telling more about this. Blue Rasberry (talk) 18:21, 25 August 2019 (UTC)

Sources

• McMahon, Connor; Johnson, Isaac; Hecht, Brent (3 May 2017). "The Substantial Interdependence of Wikipedia and Google: A Case Study on the Relationship Between Peer Production Communities and Information Technologies". Proceedings of the International AAAI Conference on Web and Social Media. 11 (1): 142–151. ISSN 2334-0770.

A lot in this one. Bluerasberry (talk) 21:58, 9 May 2022 (UTC)

Wikimedia Enterprise

Proposal. From (that is too short):

In June 2022, Google and the Internet Archive were announced as Wikimedia Enterprise's first customers, though only Google will be paying for the service.

To:

In June 2022, Google and the Internet Archive were announced as Wikimedia Enterprise's first customers, though only Google will be paying for the service. The service was created to help organizations who need contractual minimum standards, for example in terms of uptime.

Does it seem OK to you? I hope this will help in avoiding "conspiracy situations" to people who don't know what an API is. --Valerio Bozzolan (talk) 08:40, 18 February 2023 (UTC)

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Valerio Bozzolan (talk) 08:40, 18 February 2023 (UTC)