Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2023 April 8

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This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on April 8, 2023.

Gareth Richards

The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more redirects. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the discussion was Withdrawn. Page is no longer a redirect. 192.76.8.84 (talk) 17:02, 8 April 2023 (UTC)

• Gareth Richards → Frank Skinner  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

Gareth Richards is not Frank Skinner. Taking the name of a person who’s (apparently?) just died, and making it a redirect to a different person who’s still alive – especially a person in a field where pseudonyms are not uncommon, so readers might assume the two names refer to the same person after all – is IMHO much worse than a redlink. Galaktos (talk) 16:25, 8 April 2023 (UTC)

There is now a non-redirect stub article, so this discussion is no longer necessary. (Not sure what the right vote template for that is.) Galaktos (talk) 17:00, 8 April 2023 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect's talk page or in a deletion review).

Double "of" redirects

• List of Billboard Best Selling Pop Albums number ones of of 1951 → List of Billboard Best Selling Pop Albums number ones of 1951  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 
• Archdiocese of of Agana → Roman Catholic Archdiocese of Agaña  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

Unlikely due to double "of". Steel1943 (talk) 16:24, 8 April 2023 (UTC)

Farm Entrepreneur

• Farm Entrepreneur → Farm  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

Like Agricultural entrepenur below I don't think this is a good target for this redirect, An entrepreneur is a person, not a farm. I couldn't find a good target for this. 192.76.8.84 (talk) 14:49, 8 April 2023 (UTC)

Penide

• Penide → Alfeñique  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

This is tagged as the alternative name of a sweet, the article of which does not mention this name. Penide is also name of a dam in Portugal mentioned in multiple articles, and a Spanish surname related to Peñate. I would recommend deletion if there is no better target or disambiguation. Jay 💬 14:45, 8 April 2023 (UTC)

Agricultural Entrepreneur

• Agricultural Entrepreneur → Farm  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

An entrepreneur is a person, not a farm. From a few searches it seems like this term most commonly refers to people who invent/innovate in the farming industry, and occasionally refers to the Farmers who run the businesses. I'm not sure that we have a good target for this, as it sees to have muliple meanings, agribusiness might be suitable? Otherwise this might be better deleting per WP:RFD#D10, to encourage article creation? 192.76.8.84 (talk) 14:39, 8 April 2023 (UTC)

Cheery Littlebottom

• Cheery Littlebottom → Discworld (world)#Sentient species  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 
• Sergeant Cheery Littlebottom → Discworld (world)#Sentient species  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

there is nothing in Discworld_(world) about Cheery Littlebottom. Marcocapelle (talk) 11:54, 1 April 2023 (UTC)

I just started updating Discworld (world) and was trying to reference and link to Cheery Littlebottom assuming she'd also have an entry in Ankh-Morpork City Watch after I saw the one on Captain Carrot. I was annoyed to learn it was empty and just redirected back there via see also. When I checked to see if she had a standalone article I saw the redirect and discussion here. I think the redirect should be pointed to Ankh-Morpork City Watch#Sergeant Cheery Littlebottom and, since it's currently empty, that subsection be significantly expanded so it doesn't just two step redirect you to Discworld (world). I added an expansion needed notice about that problem (and similar ones with other characters). TheTranarchist ⚧ Ⓐ (talk) 05:03, 2 April 2023 (UTC)

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Bundled Sergeant Cheery Littlebottom with this.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Jay 💬 14:35, 8 April 2023 (UTC)

Template:G14

• Template:G14 → Template:G-14  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

I think this should be retargeted to template:Db-g14, for consistency with {{G1}}, {{G2}}, {{G3}} ... {{G12}} {{G13}}. All these other G## redirects are speedy deletion related, and it's inconvenient/confusing to have one that behaves differently. This template redirect is currently used on three pages, so it wouldn't be a lot of work to remove it's current usages. 192.76.8.84 (talk) 14:29, 8 April 2023 (UTC)

• Retarget to Template:Db-g14: Per nom and also that {{G6}}, {{G7}}, and {{G8}} target {{db-g6}}, {{db-g7}}, and {{db-g8}}, so with the G7/G8/G6 being relatively similar in name and likely higher up in terms of being well known, it would make sense for this to then target {{db-g14}}. I can change the current uses templates if it is a retarget, just ping me on close. TartarTorte 15:14, 8 April 2023 (UTC)

Boomerang Austrailia

• Boomerang Austrailia → Boomerang (Australian channel)  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

This redirect is titled Boomerang Austrailia, and has a misspelt Australia. I think this redirect should be deleted because of the misspelling. Regards, TechGeek105 (his talk page) 08:49, 8 April 2023 (UTC)

Yungur language

• Yungur language → Bena language (Adamawa)  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

Apparently this is also an alternative name of Voro language (Adamawa). 1234qwer1234qwer4 18:05, 23 March 2023 (UTC)

• Retarget to Bena–Mboi languages: Yungur appears to be an alternate name for this language branch, of which both Bena and Yoro are a part, as well as a number of others which are also linked from there. Ivanvector (^Talk/_Edits) 20:21, 23 March 2023 (UTC)
• Leave as is. It appears that this is an old name applied to Bena, with only Voro also occasionally called that, and we have a hat link. E.g. the ISO code is [yun], and Glottolog calls Bena and Voro together "Yungur-Voro", and according to Blench the derivatives Yangur and Yungirba are specifically Bena. Note also that "Bena" is also used for Voro. That is, the two languages are not always distinguished. It's not uncommon for a language name to spill over onto a closely related lect, esp. if it's sometimes considered a dialect of the same language or if the first language is regionally dominant and so taken as the default. So it would seem that [yun] is both "Bena proper" and "Yungur proper", with clarification needed if we mean Voro. In fact, it would seem that "Bena" is more ambiguous than "Yungur", as according to Blench it's also used for the next closest language, Lala.

Yes, Yungur is also a label for the branch, which is why Yungur languages plural is a rd there. But that's a common situation on WP and for the sg I think the hat note is sufficient. — kwami (talk) 20:45, 23 March 2023 (UTC)

• Keep per kwami. – Uanfala (talk) 12:55, 25 March 2023 (UTC)

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, CycloneYoris ^talk! 09:59, 31 March 2023 (UTC)

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Notified of this discussion at the talk pages of Bena–Mboi languages, Voro language (Adamawa) and Yungur languages.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Jay 💬 07:48, 8 April 2023 (UTC)

Thomas Cruise

• Thomas Cruise → Tom Cruise  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

Useless redirect. This redirect deserves to get speedy deleted ErceÇamurOfficial (talk) 07:35, 8 April 2023 (UTC)

• Delete I never heard anyone ever call Tom Cruise "Thomas". Grorp (talk) 08:54, 8 April 2023 (UTC)
• Keep: His full name is Thomas Cruise Mapother IV so calling Tom Cruise, "Thomas Cruise" isn't particularly odd to me. With regards to speedy delete, I can't find a WP:CSD that would apply to it. TartarTorte 15:09, 8 April 2023 (UTC)
• Keep per TartarTorte. This name is a shortened form of "Thomas Cruise Mapother IV". I also don't see how this redirect fits any of the existing CSD criteria. Dsuke1998AEOS (talk) 16:32, 8 April 2023 (UTC)
• Keep Tom is short for Thomas so I see this as plausible.--65.93.193.94 (talk) 16:38, 8 April 2023 (UTC)

Military style

• Military style → Military uniform  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

'Delete this is a highly vague newly created redirect. It can refer to many things that are similar to the military, or that are of the military. 64.229.90.172 (talk) 03:28, 8 April 2023 (UTC)

• Delete by all means. I created it from a list of requested redirects all to do with clothing and fashion, but out of that context it is indeed very vague. (You are supposed to notify creators of challenged redirects, by the way, but you did not notify me). Ingratis (talk) 03:50, 8 April 2023 (UTC)
  • Wasn't sure if it's supposed to be you or the requestor. So I left the notice on the talk page of the redirect, which you might have watchlisted. -- 64.229.90.172 (talk) 04:31, 8 April 2023 (UTC)

Disney Junior Dance Party!

• Disney Junior Dance Party! → Disney Junior  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

Not mentioned in target. QuicoleJR (talk) 01:35, 8 April 2023 (UTC)

• Delete It's just time-filler between shows no actual child cares about. The only ones searching for this are enthusiasts. Nate • (chatter) 04:32, 8 April 2023 (UTC)