Talk:Stone Cold Steve Austin

2006

Apparently, someone has been posting alot of lies on this page like in the 2006 section, someone claimed that Austin had signed a new 5 year deal with WWE and was returning in 2007, that he was going to win the Rumble, go on to Wrestlemania to win the title, and then there would be a "second attitude era"...I swear, if i see something like this again, i will hunt the person down, and personally insult him

Themasterofdisguise 21:49, 23 December 2006 (UTC)

Feud with Owen Hart

The Owen Hart wiki page says Austin harbored a grudge against Owen after his injury. This page says he did not. Which one is it?

He didn't hold a grudge at all, it was kayfabe. The reality was that they were both close friends before & after the match, same thing with Austin & Bret Hart.--Hndsmepete 06:29, 25 February 2007 (UTC)

Actually, they DID have a real grudge. Austin was upset because Owen never apoligized for the SummerSlam 1997 incident. TJ Spyke 07:22, 27 February 2007 (UTC)

Yes, Austin was upset with Owen, until Owen's death, because; 1. He asked him no to perform the move, and 2. Owen never apologized for injuring Austin.Mwutz 04:35, 28 February 2007 (UTC)

I call bullshit on both your accounts, considering Austin never had a bad word to say about Owen post-neck injury and was the last person on RAW is Owen to pay tribute to him.

NPOV

This article seems to take some stands on unconfirmed information (Ie, saying Austin was going to be jobbed to Lesnar because he criticized the writers) that keep it from being NPOV. I think it needs cleaning up.

Austin confirmed the conflict with the writers on the WWE radio show they used to have a few days before he left.

Austin vs. Hogan at Wrestlemania?

Has anybody heard rumors of this as a possible match? If so, I believe it should be written into the ar ticle.

Rumors do not belong in Wikipedia. Everything here needs to pass WP:V --Roninbk _{t c #} 22:57, 22 September 2006 (UTC)

Steve discussed this possibility with McMahon this week in chicago backstage at wwes raw , however Austin refused to accept a match where he would job to hogan

Name Issue

So why is this page here, and Levasque is at his real name? In general, we don't use real names - we have Marilyn Monroe Mark Twain Robert Jordan etc. Pakaran. 18:20, 6 Apr 2004 (UTC)

I think using real names for wrestlers is a good idea, simply because a wrestler usually has more than one "in ring name" during his career. Levesque was first known as "Hunter Hearst Helmsley", then "HHH" and now "Triple H". It would be annoying to move the page every time the wrestler changes his in ring name. Token 18:29, 6 Apr 2004 (UTC)

Dislike knowing their first names. I feel I would rather be known by a ring name. Also it maintains privacy, e.g. Micheal Hickenbottom, 3-time WWE Champion, 2-time royal rumble winner and first grand slam champion - much better to call him Shawn Michaels. Kingfisherswift 13:57, 11 March 2006 (UTC)

Probably because there's already a page for A different Steve Williams. -Darryl Hamlin 00:11, 12 April 2006 (UTC)

Wasn't his original name Steve Anderson though?(Halbared 08:47, 7 June 2006 (UTC))

for the bigger name wrestlers, it's better to use their ring name, for the jobbers and midcarders, it's better to use their real names --Jdrouskirsh 05:22, 4 August 2006 (UTC)

1. Levesque is Triple H's given name, not Austins. 2. By the standards guide of the WikiProject Professional wrestling its best to use the wrestlers real name, you'll notice that 90% of wrestlers on wikipedia have their real names at the top of the infobox. Graham Laycock 02:13, 7 October 2006 (UTC)

Hall of Fame and WrestleMania

I quote the following passage, "It was just announced that Stone Cold Steve Austin will be inducting Bret Hart into the WWE Hall Of Fame on April 1st, 2006. The night before WWE Wrestlemania 22

WWE reported that Austin will return at Wrestlemania 22, to induct Bret "The Hitman" Hart into the Hall of Fame Ceremony. Also there are rumours circulating that Austin will be involved in the McMahon/Shawn Michaels feud. Also there there are rumours that Bret Hart will also be involved in the mcMahon/shawn Michaels feud.

an other rumour is that Dalip "Giant" Singh will make his WWE debut at Wrestlemania. WWE confirmed earlier that Dalip Singh signed a contract by WWE and will be on the Smackdown roster, to feud with the Undertaker.

Also was reported but not confirmed yet, that Jim Ross will be back at Wrestlemania in some form.

Confirmed Matches & Rumoured Matches

Kurt Angle vs Randy Orton vs Rey Mysterio Undertaker vs Mark Henry John Cena vs Triple H Kane vs Chris Masters The Boogeyman vs Booker T Bobby Lashley vs Finlay Cactus Jack vs Edge Money in the Bank Ladder Match (Rob van Dam, Shelton Benjamin, Ric Flair, others are not confirmed yet) Chris Benoit vs JBL Big Show vs Carlito

Hulk Hogan will induct Mean Gene Okerlund into the Hall of Fame.

There also is a rumour circulating that Stone Cold Steve Austin will respond to Hulk Hogan's invitation for having a match with him, last Wrestlemania."

Absolutely irrelevant, I have deleted this piece of, which is essentially, vandalism.

Trivia

Why was the trivia section removed again? The information in it seemed relevant to me.

He isn't comming back, hes not McMahons big surprise. His movie comes out in April so he will probably pull a stunt like Hogan does. Show up for a month, make another big name "lay down" for him at the next big PPV, and then he'll take off again. We are never goning to see Austin vs. Hogan, both of their ego's are too big and I guarentee the reason we never saw the match is because neither one would be willing to loose.

Personal Life?

Why isn't Steve's personal life on his page? I mean he has had three marriages and two children from his second marriage. I think they should be on here.

Feel free to update things yourself. 69.137.234.44 21:51, 2 May 2006 (UTC)

The match between Owen Hart and Austin at Summerslam 1997 was not a "kiss my ass match" but instead a regular one on one contest

Austin said that if he lost the match, he'd kiss Hart's ass. That was why they did the rollup finish instead of just having Hart pin Austin.

I thought they did that finish because Austin could barely stand after Owen 'tombstoned' him.(Halbared 08:48, 7 June 2006 (UTC))

Re: They did. It was a rushed finish because Austin was legitimately injured.

Clean up tag

I tagged the article for clean up. At 60KB, it's too large. The details should be summarized and a more clear distinction between fact and fiction needs to be made. The fact/fiction blur is most evident when the articles goes from his storyline feud with Bret Hart to his real-life neck injury accident at the hands of Owen Hart. --Jtalledo (talk) 22:27, 9 July 2006 (UTC)

Birthplace

In his book The Stone Cold Truth he says he was born in Austin Texas not Victoria Texas

Original research

I tagged the article with the Original research due to the fact that some parts of the article has POV parts (political maneuverings and the like). I have Stone Cold's autobiography, but I don't have it with me right now. Can someone check it over? Duo02 *Shout here!** 16:35, 30 July 2006 (UTC)

Personal Section and Photos Cleanup

I added 4 photos to the profile. Austin stunnering McMahon at WWE Homecoming, What? DVD and Stone Cold Truth Book. Also Steve Williams mugshot. I also changed all "Austin" references to "Williams" in the personal section because this is is real name and Steve Williams got arrested not Austin.

I got rid of a few photos because they served no purpose. I also changed the infobox picture to the one I originally put there.

--Mikedk9109 16:25, 8 August 2006 (UTC)

And I changed the name back to Austin, since that is the name he is known under/as. Using Williams, as a 'private life' name, would be similar to using an actors real name, and not his/her stage name, something that would be rather unlikely. (not to mention VERY laborious, if it was don on Wikipedia, but that's another matter).

--DannyBoy2k

That front picture on his profile needs removed or censored its offensive.

Video/DVD

Removed "Stone Cold (3 disc) (2006)" No entry on IMDB or WWESHOP.COM for this title. If someone can show a citation for it, feel free to add back in --Roninbk 07:13, 15 September 2006 (UTC)

The DVD is planned for November 2007 and it's called Stone Cold Steve Austin's Life and Legcay. --  Mikedk9109  (talk)  21:20, 28 October 2006 (UTC)

The replay rule match

Where's the mention of Austin winning the rumble, then having to fight again due to Gorilla monsoon enforcing "the replay rule"?

Add it. Qubeh 13:40, 25 February 2007 (UTC)

Article Name Doesn't Make Sense

His basic ring name is Steve Austin. "Stone Cold" is merely a nickname used exclusively in the WWE. Yet, I was looking through the WCW alumini category and saw the full name as Stone Cold Steve Austin, which makes no sense. My point is, this article's name needs fixing. A lot of wrestlers have the same name as other famous people; all you need to do is have it Steve Austin (wrestler). I don't see any reason not to. Cale 00:24, 4 October 2006 (UTC)

He is much more widely recognized as Stone Cold than he is as Steve Austin. RealFerrari 22:17, 23 October 2006 (UTC)

Actually, I agree with Cale here. Steve Austin (wrestler) sounds more appropriate. --Jtalledo (talk) 02:52, 24 October 2006 (UTC)

Even more accurately, It should be Steve Williams (wrestler) as per his real name. As a matter of fact, there already is a Steve Williams (wrestler) category. Steve Austin was just a psuedonym as per the character of "Stone Cold" in the WWE (then WWF) promotion. So while we are on the topic, perhaps we should even discuss the merger of the two topics? --Hassan Bellinger 19:38, 7 November 2006 (UTC)

Merging what topics? Did you even look at the Steve Williams article? (Hint, the name Austin was chosen because there already was a Williams in the wrestling business)

↪Lakes (Talk) 20:28, 7 November 2006 (UTC)

It should stay as Stone Cold Steve Austin. He isn't called just Steve Austin when he comes to the ring, he is called Stone Cold Steve Austin. --  Mikedk9109  (talk)  19:43, 7 November 2006 (UTC)

The name Austin was also chosen because it was Stone Cold's hometown. --  Mikedk9109  (talk)  20:50, 7 November 2006 (UTC)

Of course he was called "Stone Cold Steve Austin" when he entered the ring, just like "Macho Man Randy Savage," "Rowdy Roddy Piper," "The Nature Boy Ric Flair," and countless others. But so far, I haven't seen a single wrestler's article that's actually named after not simply the wrestler's ringname but their ring nickname. This article title has two different names in it, and that just doesn't seem very sensible. If it was to stay this way, I'd probably at least have quotation marks around "Stone Cold." Cale 22:07, 28 November 2006 (UTC) Well then put quotation marks around it you lazy toerag, and incase you havent noticed, when Austin wrestles, they usually refer to him as Stone Cold.150.101.75.67 10:26, 2 January 2007 (UTC)

Just a thought wasnt Austin called "Stunning" Steve Austin in WCW, "Superstar" Steve Austin in ECW and he only adopted the Stone Cold persona in the WWE, so techniqually the WCW alumni should state that "Stunning" Steve Austin was part of the promotion. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by The Legendary One (talk • contribs) 23:51, 2 January 2007 (UTC).

Steve Austins name nick name Stone Cold Steve Austin isn't a nick name exactly. The nature Boy Ric Flair isn't always reffered to as the Nature Boy only recently has everyone called him it all the time. In WCW Ric Flairs name was Ric Flair with only some calling him the nature boy (the same was with his earlier run in WWF, and when he owned RAW) Austin has allways been introduced as stone cold steve austin, in wrestling, interviews outside wrestling,in his movie and in other shows e.g. PUNK'D. Stone Cold is called stone cold as it is his wrestling name. on the wwe/wwf roster it has said stone cold steve austin while (taking the examples above) ric flair was not put as the nature boy ric flair it was just a nickname which developed. Finally when each enters the ring, though the announcer calls each their name/nick name, the onscreen name box has only Ric Flair in it for Ric Flair but STONE COLD STEVE AUSTIN in austins one. thanx for listening

The picture

I believe that the photo is inappropriate. 67.188.172.165 01:27, 20 November 2006 (UTC)

waa-waa-waa!!!! - Crispen Raw - poof 81.110.1.43 16:24, 23 November 2006 (UTC)

Well, its free use, and remember wikipedia is not censored. --  Mikedk9109  (talk)  17:53, 23 November 2006 (UTC)

If I had to include a better picture I choose either: this one [[1]] or this one [[2]] -- Nathen

Remember Nathen that the picture has to be public domain, and those two pictures arent so it's all well and good saying you'd use them but you cant -- unsigned

I understand wikipedia is not censored however my two cents is that I feel a better, more appropriate picture could be sourced. I agree with 67.188.172.165, however would like to wait for more commentary before a switch is made. Anyone have thoughts to add? -- ViaBest 15:52, 31 January 2007 (UTC)

I vote for a different photo. Even though wiki is uncensored, it should carry appropriate photographs for use in an encyclopedic resource. I believe we can find a more appropriate photo. Naysie 14:29, 23 February 2007 (UTC)

Then find a different picture, until then the current one is fine. TJ Spyke 07:20, 27 February 2007 (UTC)

movelist

Whatever idiot took out Austin's move list, change it back. Damn vandals.

His Ref position at WrestleMania 23...

It's stated on TV that he will be, so it's hardly speculation, why not keep it? Qubeh 14:18, 25 February 2007 (UTC)

Because things change, and it hasn't happened yet. Until then its pure speculation. On top of that every little thing that Austin does doesn't belong on the page. This is not a week by week assessment its and encyclopedia. Thefro552 17:06, 25 February 2007 (UTC)

I understand that, but you have to look at what they've thrown at us already. Things hardly change when it comes to the business we're talking about. Again, it's stated on TV that he will be, and yes, it's an Encyclopedia, and I think something as important as that should be added. (added) Qubeh 23:49, 28 February 2007 (UTC)

I don't mean to sound rude but what you think is irrelevant. It doesn't matter what could happen, what should happen, or what probably will happen. Its all speculation until it happens. Yes I agree that Stone Cold will make his appearance, but my opinion doesn't matter. Wikipedia has rules for a reason. And in the future please remember to sign you posts. Thefro552 04:28, 27 February 2007 (UTC)

I see. What about things that are announced, or that happen on TV? Qubeh 23:49, 28 February 2007 (UTC)

No on both counts. Things such as new feuds or injuries are notable enough to be entered. This is not a week by week reference page. Every match or event doesn't belong. Further information is provided by the external links. Thefro552 03:45, 1 March 2007 (UTC)

How can the section following "Steve Austin made his first appearance on WWE TV in a year on April 3, 2005 at WrestleMania 21" be notable, yet a section that would talk about his first appearance on WWE television since March 2006 not be notable? The aforementioned section only talks about his interview at WM21. Seems to me if that is important enough, so should his recent return and announcement to referee the hair match at WM23. 76.16.131.39 07:09, 9 March 2007 (UTC)

Is someone going to add the fact that he's definitely the special guest referee for the WM 23 Hair vs Hair match? It's definitely on wwe.com. I'd add it, but I'm not sure how to cite a website.Maxwagner7 23:43, 9 March 2007 (UTC)

Yes, it is confirmed, but it will not go here until after WrestleMania this year because we have to adhere to Wikipedia's professional wrestling project style guide, which says we should not include "announced matches that have not yet occurred" in articles. In fact, in most pro wrestling articles there are warnings which clearly state this and ignoring them could amount to vandalism. Bmg916 ^{Speak to Me} 00:06, 10 March 2007 (UTC)

week by week events / editing of this page

One of the things i like about wikipedia is how much info it has on people, and the week by week events for wrestlers is good to look back on and read about what happened.

I don't think they take anything away from the article, i think they make it better.

Plus wikipedia is always updated for current events so why should this be any different? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Howard85 (talk • contribs) 19:24, 14 March 2007 (UTC).

This is not a dedicated wrestling website, it is an encyclopedia. Therefore it only includes the most notable parts of a persons career and/or life. Week by week events are not always notable, and make articles unnecessarily long and eventually hard to edit. Bmg916 ^{Speak to Me} 19:29, 14 March 2007 (UTC)