Talk:Syndromic autism

Requested move 12 June 2023

Characteristics of syndromic ASD conditions → Syndromic autism – The article should (and already kind of does) cover the concept of syndromic autism as a whole and not just the "characteristics of syndromic ASD conditions". It still makes sense to explain the term "non-syndromic autism" (and synonyms) within the first sentence and redirect these terms here, but they are clearly not a focus. What do you think, @Digressivo and @Mruanova? TempusTacet (talk) 11:21, 12 June 2023 (UTC)

Support I completely agree, I wanted to propose the same thing. Digressivo (talk) 11:34, 12 June 2023 (UTC)

I think we can close the discussion, @TempusTacet agreed, @Digressivo agreed, I agreed, cc: @Paine Ellsworth Mruanova (talk) 13:44, 12 June 2023 (UTC)

@Paine Ellsworth Sorry for interfering with your work, I wasn't notified that there had been changes to the article in the meantime when I published my revision. Also note that this article was created by copy-pasting from autism spectrum.--TempusTacet (talk) 13:48, 12 June 2023 (UTC)

Do you mean that this is then a split-off subtopic of the Autism spectrum article? Because that would be okay if you're just making a too-long article shorter by splitting off material into a new article. The issue was that this article was copy-paste moved to Syndromic autism and had to be reverted. Page moves cannot be performed that way. The move link near the top of the page should be used to move pages so that the edit history is also moved and legal attributions will be kept intact. P.I. Ellsworth , ed. ^{put'er there} 13:57, 12 June 2023 (UTC)

I'm not sure I understand what you mean so I'll explain it again but in a different way. The article Characteristics of syndromic ASD conditions was created by copying text from autism spectrum. In that sense, it is a "(partial) move" and hence my concern whether this is OK, as I don't see a qualitative difference to then taking the text from Characteristics of syndromic ASD conditions and creating a new article syndromic autism, which you pointed out is "a no-no" and reverted. The history of Characteristics of syndromic ASD conditions does not contain the history of the article's content either. (I do understand the technical implications of a page move, ie, that this effectively renames the article, keeping its history, and creates a new page with the previous name without any history that is just a redirect.)--TempusTacet (talk) 14:24, 12 June 2023 (UTC)

In a nutshell, there are three major page dispositions: merges, splits and moves. The merges and splits require only that notice is given on the talk pages using {{old merge}} or {{split article}}. Full page moves must not be copy-and-pasted like merges and splits, though, and must be performed using the move link near the top of the page. If there is no move link, then the page is move-protected. If there is a move link and you try to use it but you still cannot move the page, it just means that you need someone with the tools needed to make the page move, an admin or a page mover. WP:RMTR is for technical requests, or you can do what you did and start a formal move request. To answer editor Mruanova's question, I'm not averse to closing this request as either a WP:SNOW situation or a tech request. But if someone later disagrees with the page move, then another move request might be needed. So since this is your (TempusTacet) move request, what would you like to do? P.I. Ellsworth , ed. ^{put'er there} 14:51, 12 June 2023 (UTC)