User talk:Admantine123

How?

Can someone explain to me that, how's this Sangram Singh Patan article eligible for wikipedia article

Rajmama (talk) 13:15, 9 September 2023 (UTC)

Rajmama, why this message to me? I am not the creator of that article.Admantine123 (talk) 16:34, 9 September 2023 (UTC)

Nomination of Vikas Shakya for deletion

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Alexandermcnabb (talk) 06:47, 15 September 2023 (UTC)

Siddharth Sukhlal kushwaha moved to draftspace

An article you recently created, Siddharth Sukhlal kushwaha, is not suitable as written to remain published. It needs more citations from reliable, independent sources. (?) Information that can't be referenced should be removed (verifiability is of central importance on Wikipedia). I've moved your draft to draftspace (with a prefix of "Draft:" before the article title) where you can incubate the article with minimal disruption. When you feel the article meets Wikipedia's general notability guideline and thus is ready for mainspace, please click on the "Submit your draft for review!" button at the top of the page. DSP2092^talk 18:32, 15 September 2023 (UTC)

Upendra Kushwaha

Thanks, will do. Admantine123 (talk) 02:24, 17 September 2023 (UTC)

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I have sent you a note about a page you started

Hello, Admantine123. Thank you for your work on Ram Autar Shakya. User:Maliner, while examining this page as a part of our page curation process, had the following comments:

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Maliner (talk) 17:22, 21 September 2023 (UTC)

Thanks, will expand it. Admantine123 (talk) 17:25, 21 September 2023 (UTC)

Neofetch

The material you keep restoring violates WP:NOTDIRECTORY and WP:RS. OhNoitsJamie ^Talk 23:17, 28 September 2023 (UTC)

Unconstructive Revision Restore

Hello Admantine123

you seem to have restored Amar Singh I to your own changes you made a while ago, i understand that you did so to revert vandalism but this caused loss of a lot of info about campaigns of Mahabat Khan, Abdullah Khan,Aziz Koa and other details regarding him. The revision you reverted to talks more about Pratap(in that too some of its historicity is disputed) than Amar Singh. Also info about his involvement in literary works he undertook was lost. Please do not revert the page entirely back to your own changes on occurrence of any future vandalism.

Feel free to expand the article with any info you want to.

Thank You. Mewar11111 (talk) 18:46, 30 September 2023 (UTC)

You have used poor sources and removed the things from high quality source like that of Early. This is called vandalism and pov edit. Admantine123 (talk) 04:16, 1 October 2023 (UTC)

Please add back any 'relevant' info you think is missing From Early in the article.

the sources i have used is R.C. Majumdar and Ram Vallabh Somani (who has done one of the most comprehensive research on history of Mewar). you are free to research about their credibility or take second opinion from any user who is a history scholar. Can you mention me what are your basis for calling their work as 'poor sources' then i might be able to clear your doubts

Reverting back to changes you made years ago i do not think is appropriate. this will undo all the efforts done by any other user

in your revision, under section 'Role in mughal-mewar conflict' two para's were dedicated to Pratap and Amar Singh role was summed up in few line, it lacked any details about the campaign and only mention their commander name . i have added info about their campaigns. Expanded it than before none of any previous relevant info is lost Mewar11111 (talk) 07:07, 1 October 2023 (UTC)

I don't question R.C Majumdar as he is a prominent historian. I had doubt on that Mateswari publication source. Because most of such regional publication may have some pov with respect to Rajput history. They tend to glorify the events rather than observing it neutrally. Which is often visible from the language. I dispute your removal of that quote of Amar Singh's submission before jahangir, which was reliably sourced.- Admantine123 (talk) 07:37, 1 October 2023 (UTC)

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Manipulating source to distort facts ? Regarding Kushwaha article

Hello Admantine123

It seems like you are trying to distort facts by selectively omitting text/facts from the sentences of the very sources you use.

Example :

This is the text you added on Sep 21 , 2023

"The communities which merged into this caste cluster includes Marrar, Mali, Panar, Shakya, Maurya and Saini besides the three castes of Koeri, Kachhi and Murao, which originally formed the part of this cluster."

Source - Patel, Mahendra Lal (1997). Awareness in Weaker Section: Perspective Development and Prospects

This is the original text

"A number of families belonging to these caste groups, namely, Kachhi, Kachhwaha, Kushwaha, Mali, Marrar, Saini, Sonkar, Murai, Shakya, Mourya, Koyri, Koeri, and Panara have come closer to each other and have started intermarrying"

Question: Original text has the 'Kachhwaha' mentioned, which you omitted ! Can you please explain why this was done ?

NOTE: This can't be a mistake because you copy pasted this exact sentence from source in citation "_{A number of families belonging to these caste groups, namely, Kachhi, Kushwaha, Mali, Marrar, Saini, Murai, Shakya, Mourya, Koyri, Koeri, and Panara have come closer to each other and have started intermarrying.} " The only thing missing here is the 'Kachhwaha' community and the only way to do that is to specifically remove it from original sentence and then paste manipulated sentence as citation.

GlynClarke (talk) 00:57, 3 October 2023 (UTC)

GlynClarke, That is not said in the context of Kachhwaha Rajput, that is said in context of Kachhi caste, the term Kachhwaha has never been described by any author as Kachhwaha Rajput clan of Jaipur, they are saying that in context of Kachhi caste of agriculturist. Second thing is please don't make Wikipedia a place to write your pseudo historical assumption that Kachhwaha Rajputs and Kushwaha are same. No caste is weaker or stronger in present scenario. You don't need to link yourself with any caste to raise your social status, something you and few editors who choose to edit only selective articles are trying to do here.You think that anyhow merging with a Rajput clan will make you high,but this fact is used by them to claim that you are low and you have nothing to show to the world that's y to gain social recognition you are linking up with them. Be yourself like the Yadav and Jat caste. I am tired reporting disruptive editors who are here for sanskritising purpose.I am not against your caste.Your caste is presently more politically powerful than those with whom you are trying to link. And if even after that you are trying to do that... you are proving yourself low and giving them a chance to say that you are low.Admantine123 (talk) 07:08, 3 October 2023 (UTC)

GlynClarke, terms can be similar. And William Pinch also never said that Kachhwaha stands for that family of Man Singh and all from Jaipur. He was saying about cultivator Kachhwaha. Also in the source of Patel, Mahendra Lal, he wrote Koyri, Koeri as different caste, but they are just different pronunciation. So be selective in including the text from book. In present scenario too the surname Kushwah in Madhya Pradesh is used both by minority Rajput caste and OBC Kushwaha, about whom we are taking here. But outside Madhya Pradesh Kushwaha stand for the agricultural caste cluster of Koeri Kachhi Murao only. Even nowadays a general reader or common Indian will always understand Kushwaha to be the OBC Kushwaha, the agriculturist and except few history reader, no-one knows that there is something like Kachhwaha Rajput. We know that because we have grown up reading mediaeval history. But, the agriculturist Kushwahas are more renowned and produce more Notable politicians presently. It is disgusting to tackle editors who anyhow want to link them with Jaipur family now, by putting pseudo historical assumption. Believe me, there is no need to do so and my advice to all of you is that rather than forging manipulated history, you should preserve what is your real history. Admantine123 (talk) 07:30, 3 October 2023 (UTC)

(1) I have the presented the facts as they are. But it looks like you are pushing your own POV and using SYNTH by selectively omitting words from the very sources you are citing. This is against Wikipedia Guidelines and I will have to raise complain against you if you continue to vandalize.

(2) There is no linking of Kushwaha/Kachhwaha/Kachhi to Kachhwaha of Rajasthan. If you see properly I have not linked Kachhwaha article when mentioning Kachhwaha word in Kushwaha article. But as we very clearly see, in the same sources (whose text you manipulated) Kachhwaha is part of Kushwaha. whether this Kachhwaha is same as Kachhwaha of Rajasthan that is NOT the topic of this discussion , nor is mentioned or implied anywhere.

Pasting the excerpts again from the same legitimate sources:

>> Original Text from Book "_{Kushvaha-kshatriya identity was espoused by agricultural communities well known throughout the Gangetic north for an expertise in small-scale vegetable and (to an increasingly limited extent after the turn of the twentieth century) poppy cultivation. Prominent among them were Kachhi and Murao agriculturalists of central Uttar Pradesh, Kachhvahas of western Uttar Pradesh, and Koiris of Bihar and eastern Uttar Pradesh.}" Source: Peasants and Monks in British India

>> Original Text from Book : "_{The reclassification by identification as other backward classes has placed them in various disadvantageous situations, as political reservations are not permitted to OBC persons. A number of families belonging to these caste groups, namely, Kachhi, Kachhwaha, Kushwaha, Mali, Marrar, Saini, Sonkar, Murai, Shakya, Mourya, Koyri, Koeri, and Panara have come closer to each other and have started intermarrying. They have now developed an all-India network to ensure caste solidarity without jeopardizing the caste interests.}" Source: Awareness in Weaker Section: Perspective Development and Prospects GlynClarke (talk) 12:42, 3 October 2023 (UTC)