Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 March 5

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This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on March 5, 2024.

"Munchasan Kathakal" and "Munjasan Kathakal"

• Munchasan Kathakal → Baron Munchausen  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 
• Munjasan Kathakal → Baron Munchausen  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

Not mentioned in target article. Most likely WP:FORRED issues. Steel1943 (talk) 13:19, 5 March 2024 (UTC)

• Delete per nom. These appear to be Malayalam. Thryduulf (talk) 13:27, 5 March 2024 (UTC)

Pappoos

• Pappoos → Henry (comics)  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

Not mentioned in target article, leaving the connection between the redirect and the target unclear. Most likely, this is a WP:FORRED issue. Steel1943 (talk) 12:35, 5 March 2024 (UTC)

Delete. Trying to search around, and am getting vague, spotty references to the comic book character being referred to as "Pappoos" or "Pappus" in another language. I think we can chalnk this up to WP:FORRED. Lunamann 🌙🌙🌙 The Moooooooniest (talk) 13:07, 5 March 2024 (UTC)

• Delete as best I can tell this relates to a Malayalam animated cartoon "based on" the target (but that's based on unreliable sources so may be incorrect). Putting "Pappoos" into Google Translate and asking it for Malayalam gives "പപ്പൂസ്", searching that does back up the connection so I think we can safely say this is a WP:FORRED issue. Thryduulf (talk) 13:25, 5 March 2024 (UTC)

Drive (2018 film) / Drive (2017 film)

• Drive (2017 film) → Drive (2019 film)  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 
• Drive (2018 film) → Drive (2019 film)  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

Film was never released in 2017 or 2018, so propose deletion per WP:RDELETE#D2 as misleading/potential for confusion. The traffic dropped to zero after I removed the final link to the 2018 redirect at the end of last year. 2pou (talk) 21:42, 26 February 2024 (UTC)

• Weak keep the 2018 redirect, as the film was scheduled to be released in 2018 before being pushed back to 2019 (although the traffic has dropped to essentially zero pageviews). Delete the 2017 one, as I can't find any evidence of plans to release it in that year. Regards, SONIC678 17:45, 27 February 2024 (UTC)
• Keep the 2018 redirect as it was definitely originally scheduled to be released in 2018, making it a plausible way to search for this. When created, the article initially gave a 2017 date ([1]) but I'm unsure if a reference exists for this, so I am neutral on the 2017 redirect for now. A7V2 (talk) 23:45, 27 February 2024 (UTC)

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, CycloneYoris ^talk! 08:22, 5 March 2024 (UTC)

Keep the 2018 redirect, delete the 2017 redirect, as per above. Lunamann 🌙🌙🌙 The Moooooooniest (talk) 11:10, 5 March 2024 (UTC)

Brookville Police Department

• Brookville Police Department → Brookville, New York  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

no mention on target page, plausibly notable. asilvering (talk) 05:38, 5 March 2024 (UTC)

DeletE as per nom. WP:REDLINK. I uh, think you put this new RfD nomination right in the middle of an existing nomination, which means you stole the original version of this comment from Master of the TreboN Altarpiece ^^; That said, no harm no foul, as my vote for this one is mostly the same anyways! Lunamann 🌙🌙🌙 The Moooooooniest (talk) 04:42, 5 March 2024 (UTC)

@Lunamann: What happened was the first non-bot edit of the day broke the top text that Twinkle uses to detect where to put new RfD nominations. But ... this is odd since apparently, per other nominations on this page, XFDcloser ... knew where to put the relisted nominations, even with the top matter looking abnormal. Maybe Twinkle could take a bit of code from XFDcloser to utilize for new RfD nominations in the same manner that XFDcloser determines where to place a relisted discussion? (Eh, might as well ping Novem Linguae so they are aware of this as they seem to be one of the most active editors at monitoring both tools these days.) Steel1943 (talk) 13:40, 5 March 2024 (UTC)

November 2023 Terrorist Encounter in Khyber Pakhtunkhwa

• November 2023 Terrorist Encounter in Khyber Pakhtunkhwa → 2023 Tirah shooting  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

"Terrorist Encounter"? Was at this title for under a day. Rusalkii (talk) 01:53, 5 March 2024 (UTC)

• Weak keep. The incident does seem to described as an encounter with terrorists by contemporary news reports so it's not an implausible search term. Probably should be tagged as {{R from non-neutral term}} though. Thryduulf (talk) 13:30, 5 March 2024 (UTC)

The Shadown Of Catire

The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more redirects. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the discussion was Speedy delete per WP:CSD#G6 as unambiguously created in error. Thryduulf (talk) 13:37, 5 March 2024 (UTC)

• The Shadown Of Catire → The Shadow Of Catire  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

Mistaken page move, was at this title for all of a couple minutes. Rusalkii (talk) 01:16, 5 March 2024 (UTC)

Delete as implausible typo. As an aside, my brain refuses to pronounce 'shadown' anywhere close to 'shadow'-- instead coming up with 'shah-down'. Lunamann 🌙🌙🌙 The Moooooooniest (talk) 11:12, 5 March 2024 (UTC)

The above is preserved as an archive of the discussion. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect's talk page or in a deletion review).

Website previously known as Twitter

• Website previously known as Twitter → Twitter  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
• The website previously known as Twitter → Twitter  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

Requesting deletion for unencyclopedic search terms that are unlikely to be frequently sought after or helpful as most readers looking for Twitter would just search for that and go from there, plus it is still largely called Twitter on the site and by many media and news outlets. Trailblazer101 (talk) 01:15, 5 March 2024 (UTC)

• Delete per nom, plus no mainspace links to either one. GSK (talk • edits) 01:55, 5 March 2024 (UTC)
• Delete as per WP:UNHELPFUL, a test search for "Website previously known as Tumblr" had Tumblr as the very first result. Presumably, if we removed this redirect, the same would still hold for Twitter. Keep both as per a smart kitten and Thryduulf, who are right on all counts. Lunamann 🌙🌙🌙 The Moooooooniest (talk) 02:58, 5 March 2024 (UTC)
• Keep both. Variations of the phrase [the website] formerly known as Twitter have been used (& are being used) by a number of reliable sources - e.g. [2], [3], [4], [5], [6], [7], [8] - thus making this a likely & potentially helpful search term (engaging WP:R#K3); with no other target that it could be ambiguous with (as far as I can tell at a glance). Redirects are cheap, and - notwithstanding my problems with the WP:COSTLY essay - I don't believe WP:UNHELPFUL/WP:PANDORA apply in this instance, due to this specific phrase being used by reliable sources. A lack of incoming internal links is not a reason for deletion - especially so with redirects such as these ones, which can validly exist as search terms. All the best, ‍—‍a smart kitten_[meow] 13:26, 5 March 2024 (UTC)

  I feel like these should use “formerly”, rather than or at least as well as “previously”, as these quotes are usually worded in that way. –Gluonz ^{talk contribs} 13:59, 5 March 2024 (UTC)

• Keep both per a smart kitten. These are highly plausible search terms, given that phrases like this are how many people are referring to the website previously known as Twitter. The longer it becomes since it was known as Twitter the more likely it will be that people don't know what is being referred to, and even those who do won't know the title of our article given how ambiguous "X" is. Thryduulf (talk) 13:35, 5 March 2024 (UTC)

Weak keep per the third reply; the second reply brings my opinion slightly towards ‘delete’ but still within the ‘keep’ range. –Gluonz ^{talk contribs} 14:00, 5 March 2024 (UTC)

Master of the TreboN Altarpiece

• Master of the TreboN Altarpiece → Master of the Třeboň Altarpiece  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

The redirect page Master of the Trebon Altarpiece already exists, so a version where the N in Trebon is capitalized is absolutely unnecessary and should be deleted. – MrPersonHumanGuy (talk) 01:11, 5 March 2024 (UTC)

DeletE as per nom. (Odd, my comment on Brookville Police Department was originally actually meant for THIS discussion...) Lunamann 🌙🌙🌙 The Moooooooniest (talk) 07:12, 5 March 2024 (UTC)