Talk:Llinos Medi

Proposal for deletion 27 September 2023

Proposal for deletion of this page has been made: Proposed deletion: This is in a minority of council leaders who have an article, Ynys Mon/Anglesey is not a major population centre or major council, there is very little information here worthy of an encyclopedia page and now the individual in question is running for parliament (as of Sept 2023) I fear it will become a propaganda tool. There are AFAIK well established precendents for not having pages on candidates unless they are already noteworthy and IMO being a council leader of a small council (even though it is a principle authority) does not meet that bar (proposed by Kalamikid)

@Kalamikid: I suggest retaining this page since she is of notability. The style of the text is factual and neutral. Women leaders of councils are unusual and she was the first for Anglesey, a principal area, at the late time of 2013. Young councillors leaders are also unusual in the UK. Inclusion in '100WelshWomen' indicates she is more noteworthy than many others. The update about running for parliament is a factual statement and can be further updated after there has been an appropriate election. MerielGJones (talk) 09:30, 29 September 2023 (UTC)

@Kalamikid: WP:PROD is for uncontroversial deletions. Your rationale is long and does not reference deletion policy and Kalamikid takes issue with the proposal so it is not controversial. I have canceled it. If you want to pursue deletion further, please take it to WP:AFD for discussion. ~Kvng (talk) 14:45, 2 October 2023 (UTC)

IMO this article does not meet WP:NPOLITICIAN nor WP:NSUBPOL in its current form, so standard WP:GNG applies which appears this would fail imo. However, as a candidate for Ynys Môn in the next election, better wait until that before proceding. Should she win, she'll be presumed notable per NPOLITICIAN, should she lose, then this article should probably go to AfD in its current form. Council leaders and councillors do not regularly have articles, and I do not see significant coverage here. Most of the references merely discuss her position not Huws herself. Being in some list isn't notable, and discussed among local media isn't that significant, per the current references here.

The Prod nom did fail to reference policy however, and used loaded language. DankJae 12:52, 29 May 2024 (UTC)

• Medi Huws won, so meets WP:NPOLITICIAN, therefore notable. DankJae 16:07, 5 July 2024 (UTC)

Commonly known as

​​I boldly removed

commonly known as Llinos Medi

citing MOS:FULLNAME. This phrase was recently added following the recent move. FULLNAME states:

While the article title should generally be the name by which the subject is most commonly known, the subject's full name, if known, should usually be given in the lead sentence (including middle names, if known, or middle initials). Many cultures have a tradition of not using the full name of a person in everyday reference, but the article should start with the complete version in most cases.

For example: From Fidel Castro: Fidel Alejandro Castro Ruz (August 13, 1926 – November 25, 2016) ...

Seems clear this addition doesn't match the MOS. Leads and titles do not need to match if the names are related, titles have to be consise, leads not so much but not cluttering. DankJae 20:59, 5 July 2024 (UTC)