Talk:List of Chinese inventions

This page should be much longer than it is.

Deletion disucssion

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/List_of_Chinese_inventions

Removed Celestial Globe

That was invented independently in China, but it was first invented by the Greeks

-intranetusa

I put it back to the others section as "discovered separately after other civilizations" is mentioned. --Leo 16:20, 12 April 2007 (UTC)

I removed the "so-called Four Great Inventions" into just "Four Great Inventions"

ImSoCool

Um, why is this page up for deletion?--PericlesofAthens 10:37, 12 April 2007 (UTC)

Some people abused the deletion policy. I cleaned it up --Leo 16:13, 12 April 2007 (UTC)

Problems with this article

This article (like many lists) would probably be better as a category. Alternatively, it should be called Chinese Inventions or possibly Early Chinese Inventions. It should conentrate on inventions made in China independently of the West or of the Islamic World. It could also usefully indicate which inventions diffused to the West (for example, paper) and which were independently invented in China and elsewhere. It would also be useful if dates could be provided, as this may help those of us who are not experts on the subject to spot items that should not appear. Some of the articles in the History of Technology series might provide a useful model, for exampleRenaissance Technology - though that article is very incomplete at present. Peterkingiron 22:10, 18 April 2007 (UTC)

You have very good points. We simply need more volunteers to do what you have suggested.:-) The concentration concern may be resolved by using different sections for the inventions like it is right now. --Leo 16:58, 20 April 2007 (UTC)

You can't spend much time at CfD if you think this would survive as a category, especially without an article! The article needs to be improved, along the lines you suggest. Johnbod 13:40, 14 May 2007 (UTC).

football/soccer

I've read on another wiki article saying football/soccer was actually first played in china. Should we add it into the list? 203.54.196.103 13:27, 14 May 2007 (UTC)

I'm sure there is List of countries who claim to have invented football. No - oh well. Johnbod 13:38, 14 May 2007 (UTC)

Suggested renaming

This seems to be a list of ancient Chinese inventions rather than Chinese inventions in general. Should it be renamed to reflect that? JoshuaZ 23:23, 16 May 2007 (UTC)

No, because many of them now are medieval and early modern.--PericlesofAthens 09:30, 27 June 2007 (UTC)

China invented everything it seems

I've noticed over the last few months of reading general interest in wiki, that china invented everything on the planet. Including soccer now, apparently. In every case, someone always seems to produce some obscure reference for each chinese innovation, usually written centuries after the fact, by surprise surprise: a Han chinese! Seems more like oral tradition and good old fashioned racial arrogance, you find everywhere else. CJ DUB 01:57, 17 July 2007 (UTC)

Your idea of what constitutes "everything" seems to be pretty narrow. Spare us the spam, if you have a reference then put it up for discussion.

Compass

Shouldn't the compass really fall under the "Other inventions" column? From my own knowledge and the wikipedia article on the compass, there is a strong case that it was simultaneous European/Chinese invention.--Scott 18:02, 15 August 2007 (UTC)

no, i think the compass was taken by the europeans. we need a stronger evidence instead of wiki articles, since wikiarticles may not be the best to resolve distrupts of these types. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.38.205.160 (talk) 00:44, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

Some of this inventions the chinese didnt even do

First of all Matches, it clearly says that it had a predecessor in Egypt which used sulfur, Horse collar because it was in Ancient chaldea, land mine because happened by Rome because it was a mine that romans used to trap humans with spikes, rudder because Egypt used a oar as that was used as rudder, Vaccination because the chinese did Inoculation and edward jenner made first vaccine, bitumious coke and countless others i cannot name because then it would waste time. I am asking that people should not put inventions without solid evidence and that they should note where they get from, and that book that was used as reference can not have True factual evidence (Canu44 07:52, 30 August 2007 (UTC))