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* '''[[:Dorothy Walker Bush]]''' – since less than 2 hours had passed, the best solution was to speedy reopen the AFD – [[User:GRBerry|GRBerry]] 22:57, 20 November 2007 (UTC) <!--*--> |
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AfD closed prematurely (less than 24 hours after beginning) by a non-admin. Early non-admin closures are appropriate when the AfD discussion is weighing heavily to one side or the other. However, since the point of AfD is to bring the discussion to the wider Wiki community, a closure this rapidly is premature particularly when the result is "no consensus." The closing user stated, "no consensus...looked likely to be reached." Since the editor cannot predict the future and the discussion was ongoing between multiple editors, the decision should be overturned and the discussion relisted. [[User:Strothra|Strothra]] ([[User talk:Strothra|talk]]) 22:47, 20 November 2007 (UTC) |
AfD closed prematurely (less than 24 hours after beginning) by a non-admin. Early non-admin closures are appropriate when the AfD discussion is weighing heavily to one side or the other. However, since the point of AfD is to bring the discussion to the wider Wiki community, a closure this rapidly is premature particularly when the result is "no consensus." The closing user stated, "no consensus...looked likely to be reached." Since the editor cannot predict the future and the discussion was ongoing between multiple editors, the decision should be overturned and the discussion relisted. [[User:Strothra|Strothra]] ([[User talk:Strothra|talk]]) 22:47, 20 November 2007 (UTC) |
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Dorothy Walker Bush (closed)
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The following is an archived debate of the deletion review of the article above. Please do not modify it. |
AfD closed prematurely (less than 24 hours after beginning) by a non-admin. Early non-admin closures are appropriate when the AfD discussion is weighing heavily to one side or the other. However, since the point of AfD is to bring the discussion to the wider Wiki community, a closure this rapidly is premature particularly when the result is "no consensus." The closing user stated, "no consensus...looked likely to be reached." Since the editor cannot predict the future and the discussion was ongoing between multiple editors, the decision should be overturned and the discussion relisted. Strothra (talk) 22:47, 20 November 2007 (UTC) |
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Paul Yingling (closed)
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notibility, see discussion page 71.59.104.219 (talk) 17:47, 20 November 2007 (UTC) |
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- Category:Wikipedians in the Association for Computing Machinery (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) (restore|cache|UCFD)
Only reason given for delete is "precedence" (all other "votes" for delete cited nom). Collaboration (which no one challenged) seems more important than following a dubious precedence, as precedence seems to be just another name for WP:ALLORNOTHING in this case. Ben Hocking (talk|contribs) 14:09, 20 November 2007 (UTC)
- Define "collaboration."--WaltCip (talk) 14:16, 20 November 2007 (UTC)
- See collaboration. Ben Hocking (talk|contribs) 14:20, 20 November 2007 (UTC)
- Define collaboration in the context of a Wikipedia category such as this without blue-linking me to an article. You have chosen a position with which to justify your stance; let us see you defend it in your own words if it means so much to you.--WaltCip (talk) 14:28, 20 November 2007 (UTC)
- I thought it was crystal clear. Collaboration in this context refers to editors in wikipedia working together to improve articles related to issues that members in the ACM can be expected to have expertise on. Is that clear enough now or do I need to define "context", "editors", and "improve"? I apologize for being somewhat snarky, but I fail to see how this wasn't clear from the outset. You've been here long enough to know what collaboration means, haven't you? (On the off chance that you don't know what those articles might be, I'd recommend that you read the Association for Computing Machinery article and visit the ACM themselves.)Ben Hocking (talk|contribs) 15:28, 20 November 2007 (UTC)
- Define collaboration in the context of a Wikipedia category such as this without blue-linking me to an article. You have chosen a position with which to justify your stance; let us see you defend it in your own words if it means so much to you.--WaltCip (talk) 14:28, 20 November 2007 (UTC)
- See collaboration. Ben Hocking (talk|contribs) 14:20, 20 November 2007 (UTC)
- Overturn/relist- Wikipedia:Overcategorization was put forth as a basis for deletion, but I couldn't determine from the discussion why this category was Overcategorization. "Other societies/fraternal organisations have been recently deleted" is not a good reason to delete. More discussion was needed to determine a delete consensus. Relist with a nomination that is focused on Wikipedian category points to be discussed. -- Jreferee t/c 19:18, 20 November 2007 (UTC)
- Endorse. Nom obviously doesn't know how WP works. In addition to nothing be wrong with the AfDs...everything he is proposing is in violation of some policy...whether it be ownership of an article, conflict of interest, not adhering to a neutral POV, etc. --SmashvilleBONK! 22:49, 20 November 2007 (UTC)
- Pawn (MMO) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) (restore|cache|AfD)
- Pawn Game (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) (restore|cache|AfD | DRV)
- Pawngame.com (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) (restore|cache|AfD)
- PAWNGAME (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) (restore|cache|AfD)
- Pawngame (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) (restore|cache|AfD)
I (Firstmate) represent Pawngame as a mod, and I feel your deletion of the page should be reconsidered. The reason being that the previous writers did not consult the pawngame staff and rashly made the page. And because of this happening so many times, Texas Android deleted the page. Another reason that was provided for the deletion was that we were trying to promote the game. That is not true, like said above, the article would have been much better if done from a mod or admin's view. Not only that but the article is purely meant for people who may wish to learn more about the game. IF you do decide to undelete it, please notify me so that I can post the article instead of letting someone else. This may be in the wrong format, and for that I'm sorry. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Firstmate22222 (talk • contribs) 03:48, 20 November 2007 (UTC)
- I note that other forms of the article title are protected titles after repeated deletions and a full AFD. Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/IncidentArchive307#PAWNGAME reveals that the article was repeatedly attacked by anon editors and had to be semi-protected during the AFD. GRBerry (talk) 04:23, 20 November 2007 (UTC)
- Endorse deletion per the AfD, as an improper nomination. The AfD seems to have been interpreted properly (don't see how it would've been speedied otherwise). It also mentioned the author may be a single-purpose account, and their blank contribs seems to support that. I'd like to see the page histories temporarily restored so this can be confirmed. L337 kybldmstr (talk) 05:07, 20 November 2007 (UTC)
- The nominator of this review has no deleted contributions and has not participated in any of the previous versions of the articles - at least under this ID. Short of CheckUser, there's no way to tell if this was the same person under a different ID. Nothing in the pagehistories shows any evidence either way to the SPA question. Rossami (talk) 22:25, 20 November 2007 (UTC)
- Endorse as deletor.Was deleted as an A7, still is an A7. ⇒SWATJester Son of the Defender 05:38, 20 November 2007 (UTC)
- Endorse, obviously given that it's been through AfD at least twice and in each case the decision has been unanimous that it be deleted, I don't see this coming back, ever. And don't bother re-creating it under different titles, that's not exactly fooling anyone, you know. Andrew Lenahan - Starblind 14:55, 20 November 2007 (UTC)
- Endorse, two unanimous AfDs, one unanimous DRV to keep deleted. Provide reliable sources as to its notability, write a version in your User space, and then come back here for further consideration. Corvus cornix (talk) 19:37, 20 November 2007 (UTC)
Tang Yuhan (closed)
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The page was deleted as not notable. But the result of the discussion was just 1 for Keep, 1 for neutral, and 2 for delete. This cannot be interpreted as consensus. The article should be kept as non-consensus in the deletion discussion. Four editors, not including the creator of this article, participated in the deletion discussion. Only two, Paul Pieniezny and I, got substantially involved in it. Paul's main reason for deletion is that Tang Yuhan is not a notable physician. But I pointed out that Tang was a notable benefactor. Paul then kept silence and have not replied. The administrator AGK deleted this article. This incorrectly interpreted the result of the debate. And AGK also said: "Whilst the addition of citations is commendable, unfortunately the fact that they are in Chinese means that cannot be confirmed as Reliable Sources." This statement is not fair. Chinese sources are clearly valid sources according to Wikipedia:Citing sources. They can be confirmed by other Wikipedian who can understand Chinese language. All of the citations are from reliable sources including People's Daily, Sina.com, etc. And some of theses Chinese sources have been translated in Wikipedia talk:Articles for deletion/Tang Yuhan. Even English-speaking editors can read them. Therefore, the deletion should be re-considered. Thanks. Neo-Jay (talk) 02:42, 20 November 2007 (UTC)
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Brent Blake (closed)
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"Brent Blake" was deleted April 22, 2007, Because "Building the Worlds Largest Lava Lamp" was probably an hoax,Doubtful notability. Brent Blake and the project are real. See Seattle PI January 1, 2005 and Seattle PI January 26, 2006. Additionally see www.giantlavalamp.com PLEASE CONTACT ME AND REINSTATE THIS INFORMATION ON YOUR SITE. soapblake@gmail.com 509-246-1692 Mail. Brent Blake P.O. Box 422, Soap Lake, WA 98851 Brent Blake (talk) 22:46, 20 November 2007 (UTC) |
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