User talk:Ward3001/Archive 1

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Edit summaries

I apologize that I don't use edit summaries all the time, but I did use them for the changes I made just now. Treybien 15:50 July 10 2007 (UTC)

Ron Williams Entry

Hello Ward3001. Please do not change the Ron Williams entry, it is Aetna approved and from Aetna.com. Their are attributions to news releases. Thank You. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 206.213.251.31 (talk) 18:47, 27 September 2007 (UTC)

Mrs. Robinson

This edit was NPOV, shall I cite where he said this is what he was referring to? Wikifried 08:21, 14 April 2007 (UTC)

I haven't removed the sample from this article. I've moved it to the infobox, where it is more visible and looks much neater. Papa November 16:56, 4 November 2007 (UTC)

Arden Wohl2

I was just removing my own statements...unfortunatly I didnt know the attention this little article would get....I am really ticked!! what I meant to say didnt come out the right way...I just want to deleted my own remakrs...whats the big deal.. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 142.205.212.5 (talk) 20:09, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

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Arden Wohl1

thanks for your help with this article,and could you check it out, the improved version and give an opinion on the vote page...:O) I am not asking you how to vote though.. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.110.247.117 (talk) 15:35, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

Poltergeist

Hi Ward301, I notice you've been trying to fix the cast list for the film. I agree with you that Heather O'Rourke should not be listed first unless she was billed first. I don't have a copy of the film - do you? I would suggest that the cast list should be in the order they were billed in the film credits. Perhaps you could put something on the talk page to explain that, if you change it back. I'm sure that Craig T Nelson and Jobeth Williams would have been credited first, and although the story centres around Carol Ann, she is absent for a lot of the film. We don't actually see her while the rest of the family is looking for her, and I'm sure that a 5 year old in her first film would not have been given top billing.

Maybe another way of doing it could be to have a subheading for each film under the "cast" header and list the cast for each in order of billing. I think that would be the fairest and most NPOV way of doing it. What do you think? Rossrs 00:11, 9 December 2006 (UTC)

On Maria Goretti

You had questions, here's my answer. Hope I'm not messing up...

I didn't include my source since it wasn't of the online type, but of the audiovisual one. It was the EWTN TV special on Saint Maria Goretti produced by the EWTN, called "Fourteen Flowers of Forgiveness" (or "Catorce Flores de Perdón" in Spanish; since I live in Latin America, I watched the Spanish dub version). It *specifically* stated that only the Goretti family attended the canonization ceremony, and as a proof they showed photographies of the ceremony that featured Assunta and her four remaining children (including two sons, one of them coming all the way from the USA to join his family in such an important event). None of these specific pictures featured Alessandro; only the remaining Gorettis. The EWTN page on Maria Goretti ( http://www.ewtn.com/library/mary/goretti.htm ) mentions this; while it states how Assunta and Maria's siblings went to the ceremony, it doesn't say *anywhere* that Alessandro went with them.

EWTN is a quite serious Catholic media network, and the special itself was very well-documented and had several interviews including people who either knew Maria or worked in the beatification/canonization processes, so I went with their version. I'll leave things as they are in the page by now, or at least until I can get a more detailed source, but here I'm proving you that I'm not purely saying things because I say so or believe so. Lunamaria 20:30, 16 December 2006 (UTC)

Trivia item

http://www.moviemistakes.com/film3853/questions http://www.usaweekend.com/03_issues/030525/030525who.html

The above two links should both confirm Tarantino had planned to play Pai Mei. As for Kill Bill being the only Tarantino films he has not appeared in, that can easily be confirmed by looking at the imdb credits for his other films. He has appeared in all of them but Kill Bill. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 220.238.8.7 (talk) 19:17, 16 January 2007 (UTC).

Note

I appreciate that. Thank you. Navou ^banter 23:40, 16 January 2007 (UTC)

Shawn Hornbeck

Ego has nothing to do with it. You are supposed to request unprotection when you have reached a consensus, we do not wait for you to finish it and watch the page for ever. Cbrown1023 23:40, 26 January 2007 (UTC)

Thank you for the clarification. Cbrown1023 23:54, 26 January 2007 (UTC)

Just a note ...quote from talk" Page unprotection was requested here and contested here and subsequently declined here. "

Also I placed a note on the admins page, whom protected the article, and they unprotected it today. Navou ^banter 00:03, 27 January 2007 (UTC)

G. K. Butterfield

You cannot be serious: can you? Shakam 21:37, 4 February 2007 (UTC)

Yes, I know what phenotype means, and unfortunately in America it is a main component in labeling a person's race. And, G. K. Butterfield is clearly not black. Shakam 04:00, 5 February 2007 (UTC)

Love triangle revision

Hi, I just noticed that you reverted some previous edits in your edit on Love triangle, including some edits I made on the spelling and syntax. I don't mean to sound like a nitpicker, but I would like to hear if you want to keep the list of examples of love triangles, and if so, why and how. I'm a bit fearful that it'll grow out of control. Breed Zona 23:43, 5 February 2007 (UTC)

Deaf-mute

Deaf-mute was the term used to describe her in most reviews of the film. This is why I changed it. Not all deaf people "choose not to talk." --Tellerman

Making this comparable to the "N-word" is pushing it. I see no evidence of "deaf-mute" being offensive to any more than a minority. But whatever, I'll leave it out. There was still no need to confront me in this way. --Tellerman

Ok, I'll drop it if you drop it. It won't/hasn't been re-added. --Tellerman

I don't know how current this issue is but it is true that Deaf and deaf people don't like being called "deaf-mute". For one thing "mute" usually implies a pathology of the vocal cords that makes speaking or vocalizing impossible. Most d/Deaf people can talk or make sounds but many choose not to. Just another deaf person's view. Also, Ward3001, prehaps if you include a little blurb about why you are changing "deaf-Mute" people would be less likely to automatically change it back. I say this because often people who have contributed greatly to a certian page think they "own" the page so they reject any edits. I guess they see edits as a personal attack.Eclarep 02:39, 26 May 2007 (UTC)Eclarep

Here's an idea...

Get a life and stop shadowing my edits.

Freak.

24.0.97.119 00:52, 2 March 2007 (UTC)

Mute

Number One -- "Mute" is a perfectly acceptable term to use for someone who, for whatever reason, does not speak. That, in fact, is the primary definition of the term -- [1] -- and there are, to my knowledge, no alternatives.
Number Two -- Wikipedia is not censored.
Number Three -- Wikipedia is not a soapbox.
Number Four -- Do not disrupt Wikipedia to illustrate a point.
Number Five -- You skipped about five steps in the mediation process.

I'm sorry if you or anyone else finds the term offensive, but Wikipedia cannot be expected to reinvent the English language to sidle itself with an EXTRAORDINARILY small percentage of the population. Your repeated comparisons of the word "mute" to the "N-word" is unwarranted, unfounded, and in all ways repellent: the OVERWHELMING MAJORITY of the population finds the "N-word" to be offensive. Furthermore, you have not suggested any alternate language, and have, instead, insisted on simply removing the word wherever it might be found.

If you and the rest of the hearing-impaired community truly find the word to be offensive, striking it from the lexicon is not the way to affect change. Unilaterally imposing your world-view on the general population is not the way to do it, either. Attempt to raise consciousness. Your continued displays on Wikipedia is not helping your cause; judging from your talk page, this is not the first incident.

It's a WORD. It's not being used hatefully, nor is it being used to disparage the appellant. It is a combination of letters.

24.0.97.119 00:12, 4 March 2007 (UTC)

I find it interesting you feel able to be the final word on how a word is used. Language is a community property and it is constantly in flux. Read our entry on euphamism for a better understaning of how words and phrases can fall into/out of fashion, common usage, or taboo status Qaz 14:19, 5 March 2007 (UTC)

Not that I should expect you to be intellectually honest given your hiding of yourself behind that IP, but come on, who is it who "feel[s] able to be the final word" on the issue, really? We have had several people now complaining about your use of the word "deaf-mute", because your use of it is both inaccurate and (therefore) offensive. You appear to be in a minority of one on this issue Twenex 15:53, 5 March 2007 (UTC)

Taylor Ware

Thanks for your questions and your patience in reversion.

1. If a year link is removed, it's usually removed for a reason. If you look at my comments, usually (*but not this time) I typically give the reason as removing a redundant link. The 2006 year was formatted as a link just previous to the one I removed from being a link.
2. As for the geolink, you are mistaken. The city and state, as I have formatted them, are each clickable to show that they are separate entries. As it was previously formatted, clicking on either word would have sent it to the city link. My way, both the city and state can be selected. Please let me know if I have adequately answered your concerns. I only wish to improve the use and appearance of this great resource Wikipedia.--SidP 01:23, 4 March 2007 (UTC)

deaf-mute and recent discourse

hi hi. its interesting that you brought this, as the term 'Deaf Mute' is sort of a focal point for the vlog community right now (other than the SLCC ruckus over at Gallaudet University). See Ella Lentz's two posts about it here and here. The comments in particular supply a wide range of reactions and feels to the term, as well as comparisons. Going to DeafRead and searching for 'Deaf Mute' you'll find an even wider range in response to these two vlogs (Ella Lentz is a pretty big Deaf leader figure, especially in Deafhood) and they will mostly be in ASL if that is your preference.

my personal feelings about the term find some strange ground. i know of those who find the term 'deafness' very offensive (implying deficit, condition, lack, medical, negative) and 'deafhood' (community, brother/sisterhood, state of being, belonging, positive) very acceptable. i know of those who find the term 'hearing impairment', and this includes me, as a phrase that is very offensive as it defines a group by what they aren't/dont have - for instance if you refereed to someone of color as 'not white guy over there', or a woman as 'no penis person over there'. in the end it is a matter of consensus, which in my experience leaves out slurs, cuss words (barring the Fuck article, etc) and the like - so if others feel the same way or can be convinced, then its inclusion or exclusion should be enforced.

i see your link to the NAD [2], which is good, but that is a US resource and not universal, and this is a consensus discussion. how i weigh in at this point is that i think if the book used the phrase 'deaf mute' it would be notable to phrase it as such in the article (with quotes), but perhaps with a (See Deaf) note after it.

the commenter above, saying that wikipedia is not a soapbox, should not be disrupted to make a point and is not censored should still be taken to heart; these are important guidelines. i thank you for inviting me to this discussion. cheers. JoeSmack ^Talk 18:50, 4 March 2007 (UTC)

Hello, Ward! I left a comment over on the talkpage for The Heart is a Lonely Hunter. If there's anything else I can do, please contact me again. Arria Belli | parlami 19:10, 4 March 2007 (UTC)

The term "deaf-mute" is a historic term used to describe Deaf people, when there was ignorance about deafness and people's attitudes toward the Deaf community were negative. It appears thing haven't changed much since there are still some people who think it's acceptable to still describe Deaf people as such. As for the comment that Wiki is not censored, if somebody wrote articles about a Black person or a Chinese person and refered to them in the article using the "N" word or the "C" word, this would be jumped upon immediatley as the terms are offensive. So there is no difference and the term "deaf-mute" should not be used unless in a historical context.--NeilEvans 19:19, 4 March 2007 (UTC)

My comments on the deaf-mute issue

You're very welcome! Twenex 23:24, 4 March 2007 (UTC)

Do you want/would you like me to add my vote to the mediation? I couldn't find any information on whether I would be considered a "party" to the dispute. Twenex 23:27, 5 March 2007 (UTC)

Thank you

Thank you for inviting me to comment on this issue at the talkpage for The Heart is a Lonely Hunter. If I can ever be of use to you regerding this matter or any other involving the deaf please notify and I will eagerly contribute my help and viewpoints. Felixboy 16:01, 5 March 2007 (UTC)

Good Job

Good job at sounding the alarm and marshalling the proper response to the deaf-mute issue on the talkpage for The Heart is a Lonely Hunter I was happy to see someone had such a good effect on this still often misunderstood issue. Qaz 21:56, 6 March 2007 (UTC)

Ntennis

Thanks for contacting me. It looks like the issue has been resolved? You suggested a widespread opposition to your changes from "deaf-mute" to "deaf", but I could only see one anon editor engaging in a revert battle. Am I missing something on other pages? As for the Heart is a Lonely Hunter, I haven't read the book but I'm curious to know what words are used by the author to describe the deaf characters. ntennis 22:47, 7 March 2007 (UTC)

Request for Mediation

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Discussion over the expert comment

I am not available to discuss it until saturday. I have already requested the page to be fully protected. I think it will go through. How about we discuss this on Saturday 3/17/2007 with which ever admin is assigned to the page? Thegreyanomaly 02:14, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

I'm sorry if you felt I was specifically referring to you and Cfortunato. I remember reading in the talk page somewhere that the article was heavily controlled by Christians and thats where I got that idea. I'm sorry if I offended you Thegreyanomaly 22:23, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

to be clearer, this is the segment of the discussion page that gave me that idea. Also, my request for protection occurred at 01:45, 14 March 2007 and your first revert of The Lost Tomb of Jesus occurred at 01:44, 14 March 2007. Given the fact that there is less than a minute in between your edit and my request and given that that revert was the beginning of our clash, it is impossible that my commment was targetted at you Thegreyanomaly 23:25, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

My religious beliefs are easily available as I have atheist and Buddhist userboxes on my userpage and similarly that is how I determined that some of the opponents of my view were Christian. They had listed themselves as Christian and some had claimed it in the discussion. I was possibly mislead by the statement in the discussion that the page was controlled by Christians. I also had clearly stated in the discussion that I feel that in this case a Christian POV is always going to be NPOV because non-secular Christians would want to believe that the tomb is false. I stated that a secular non-Christian, non-Atheist viewpoint would be preferable because any who fit in that category would not have a belief-decided opinion. I admit I made a minor error by saying some of the people who were editing may or may not have been Christian in my request. I was typing quickly at the time and I made a really stupid error, but nonetheless I DID check to see if the editors were Christian and I admit I should haven't taken "Christians wrote this article" in the discussion as absolute fact. But anyways, I will not be responding to your response until Friday, March 16th at night at the earliest (Pacific Time). I previously had stated that I am busy until the weekend. Thegreyanomaly 00:51, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

I said I wouldn't respond until Friday night, but I will anyways. Now you seem to be assuming things about, which includes an idea that I am anti-Christian. I generally do not check userboxes, but because The Lost Tomb of Jesus is a highly-religion influenced debate I went ahead an did so. It is a fair asssumption that the state of being Christian (primarily towards those who believe in a bodily ressurerction) will influence an individual to being, at some level, against this documentary; this affects the neutrality of Christian arguments. Religion is relevant. I kept my atheistic and my Buddhist beliefs out of my edits. I tried to keep a secular viewpoint by my edits. In the end the page will only affects the people secular to the Jesus issue I edited what I edit to make it clear to people despite what the non-statisticians said the statisticians said that the combination of those names is rare Thegreyanomaly 22:44, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

No I do not believe I am the only one with a non-biased POV. I believe that it is possible for people to keep their beliefs out of their edits, but I believe in case of such article it would be difficult as it does go against beliefs fundamental to (some/most) form of Christianity. It is clear to me this conversation has reach a dead-end and you have come to the level of assuming things about me "Do you think you are the only person who can make unbiased edits without being influenced by personal religious beliefs?" "I begin by assuming good faith that an editor makes changes to the article because they believe it improves the accuracy of the article, not because they are waging a religious war" (implies my edits were not out of good faith; David Mavorah has no standing in statistics; his statistical claims have no authority and to an extent his work should be as claimable as original-research, which wikipedia does not support), "Apparently you feel a need to find out if an editor is Christian, and then you seem to assume that the religion of your "opponent" is what motivates their edits" (an assumption) "don't frame the conflicts as the Christians versus you" (another assumption. as i have said many times, I believe any secular pov could rebutt the documentary). Please cease your assumptions and this conversation. Thegreyanomaly 00:10, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

Reversions and such

Thanks for doing RC patrol, I know it's like chinese water torture, but hey, someone has to do it.

Anyway, on your reversion on Impressionism, you reverted to a bad version. I appreciate the fact that you're looking out for this, but when you revert, always go to history to check whether or not you got all the revisions, and to see if you were, in fact, the reverter. You did revert, however, there were three revisions you didn't touch.

I got 'em. Don't worry about that, but just be a little more careful in the future. Thanks, and keep up the good work. Pumeleon^T 05:37, 17 March 2007 (UTC)

dorin danila

I blanked the Dorin Danilă article because the real name of the romanian chief of the naval forces is Dorin Dănilă. I want to delete the Dorin Danilă article and the Dorin Dănilă art. will become the correct one,cheers. Eurocopter Tigre 16:05, 17 March 2007

re:Dorin Danila

I will ask an admin to delete that article, only the admins are allowed to delete articles. Eurocopter Tigre 16:19, 17 March 2007

alia lahlou

is there a way to be given some time to improve the article? Harlot

Bandar Torkaman

I added no information to Bandar Torkaman. When I came across the article it was a complete mess. I simple fixed up what was already there. See this diff: [3] Thanks.Azerbaijani 22:16, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

Yea, sure.Azerbaijani 12:58, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

thanks

Thanks for reverting the rubbish on my userpage :) Pseudomonas 02:53, 25 March 2007 (UTC)

Me too --Audiovideo 02:59, 25 March 2007 (UTC)

Mike Yaconelli

That's cool. You should have pulled it on your first visit. I was not linking to it as a commercial venture, but as one of the better examples of the content of his work that I had found live on the web. Alastair Cutting 23:46, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

Avril Lavigne

I agree that Wikipedia is not censored, especially with quotes. But you might want to check the accuracy of the quote. It doesn't sound correct. Ward3001 21:21, 2 April 2007 (UTC)

Yup, you were right. Someone must've changed the quote at some point. I've fixed it. --Kurt Shaped Box 21:25, 2 April 2007 (UTC)

G. K. Butterfield again

What I did, was in essence offering a compromise between you and the editor from 143.231.249.141 (which is an interesting IP.) Now, you added the words you wanted, phenotype (and man, that is not very popular in Europe, it's a jump-word) So then you added in what the IP had removed, in addition to my suggested compromise (which should be clear enough for any one who wondered why he is a member of the Congressional Black Caucus. ) Meaning you now got to say it twice. Also, the reference to the talk page gives in my opinion not much sense: it's obvious everybody knows what the discussion is all about. Greswik 11:39, 7 April 2007 (UTC)

Aretha In Paris

Can you explain this edit on the Aretha In Paris article? [4]. Just wondering why you would reinstate about 300 lines into an article that don't even directly relate to the subject. Thanks - Cloudz679 22:40, 9 April 2007 (UTC)

I said "Test Edit" after I playfully put in a photo of a woman with "Nappy Hair" in Imus's page. Won't happen again, sorry about that.--Bluefield 00:46, 11 April 2007 (UTC)

I've adding a link to Avril Bandaids (http://www.avrilbandaids.com) to the Avril Lavigne article - though an unofficial site, Bandaids is currently being used as Avril Lavigne's online E-team. The guidelines also say that "Sites with other meaningful, relevant content that is not suitable for inclusion in an article, such as reviews and interviews" should be added. Bandaids contains a database of over 2000 Avril Lavigne articles and an extensive "Avrilography" section with a large amount of other meaningful, relevant content.

I also posted other information into this article that was deleted and I'm curious to know the reason for that. In one area it was marked that a citation was needed and I added a citation that was then deleted. I also posted new information about Avril's new single reaching #2 on the UK charts - the highest an Avril single has ever reached in the UK - and this was deleted as well.

xx — Preceding unsigned comment added by Staticrebelle (talk • contribs)

Back to Basics Re-release

That whole page is completely wrong. That is why I blanked it. It was just some silly fan wishing and hoping for a re-release. I'm trying to help Wikipedia out by only have REAL facts. Leaving that page there takes down Wikipedia's credibility way DOWN. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Los besos (talk • contribs)

Back to Basics Re-release

Alright, but I'm sitting here trying to help out this site, but you continue to let false information be posted on this source.Los besos 19:50, 15 April 2007 (UTC)

Unreferenced template

Personally, I don't really care whether the {{unreferenced}} template is placed at the top of an article or at the bottom. However, given that the template's page clearly says that "there is currently no consensus about where to place this template; most suggest either the bottom of the article page (in an empty 'References' section), or on the article's talk page" I don't think your edit summary ("placed unref template in proper place; removed References header because there are no references") is quite correct. No big deal, though - just wanted to point that odd fact (lack of consensus of where to place a widely-used and rather important template) out to you! --ElKevbo 20:11, 15 April 2007 (UTC)

William Phillips (gunman)

Look man, I've been a wikipedian for a long time, you don't need to keep critisizing me just because you're watching the page I created like a hawk. First you try to delete it, even though I told you Al Jazeera had confirmed it, now you are all up in my face about whether or not this lady was a hostage?? They found her tied up with duct tape on her mouth, is that not a hostage? I mean, I'm honestly not trying to be rude, but I'm 27 years old and I don't need you to tell me how wikipedia works. Thanks. Stubbleboy 02:42, 21 April 2007 (UTC)

natalie portman

it says she's bi right in the article under "relationships". 67.172.61.222 23:20, 22 April 2007 (UTC)

links?

what innapropriate links? thats relevant trivia and i didnt put in any links i cited my additions and provided a link to a possible future article which is likely based on an existing film, most films are considered notable. i didnt add in any advertisement i just ran into some movie titles that i thought would pepper the trivia sections of the movies they parodied. wikipedia is not censored so what does it matter if they linked to porno movies, i had to provide the source, or would you rather i used the IMdB?71.142.88.173 04:45, 27 April 2007 (UTC) and i dont have to discuss such additions although you should discuss them when removing cited content, i even used the correct <ref>[]</ref>format71.142.88.173 04:47, 27 April 2007 (UTC) i was signed out by the way i am^{T ALK}•^QR_C2006•¢ʘñ†®¡ß§ 04:53, 27 April 2007 (UTC)

Preview button

Thank you for your contributions to Wikipedia. Regarding your edit(s) to Scent of a Woman, it is recommended that you use the preview button before you save; this helps you find any errors you have made, and prevents clogging up recent changes and the page history. Thank you. Ward3001 04:11, 29 April 2007 (UTC)

I usually do, but I'll make more of an effort in the future.--RobNS 17:30, 29 April 2007 (UTC)

Edits On Lolita Page

I wanted to clarify with you the reasons for the extensive editing I have attempted to do on the page on Lolita (i'm not sure if this is the wrong way to do it or anything, so apologies if it is). The person whose version is the previous has inserted a lot of irrelevant comments in a pseudo-literary style that conflicts with with the encyclopaedic tone it is supposed to have. The British English spelling was in the original and I did not bother to change it, so if it is necessary for any reason to use American English then that makes no difference to me. I wish to point out that a large amount of material that wasn't changed by the aforementioned person is also mine and has also been accepted.88.111.4.239 18:09, 29 April 2007 (UTC)Revolver66

The use of British English was already in the version that I edited, of which I saved a copy. "Pseudo-literary" might be over-the-top, but as examples of what I meant:

"...raised in his father's Riviera hotel after his young mother is killed (picnic, lightning)." "Picnic, lightning" isn't explanatory enough, it doesn't really mean anything (likewise: "...only after first seeing her twelve-year-old daughter Dolores (Dolly, Lolita, Lola, Lo, L)"). In fact, it isn't really relevant information at all. There is also a very melodramitic feel to the current version chaotic, desperately, but I realise this is a matter of opinion. In my opinion, the version of the synopsis that was used in February (or so) of this year was much better, but has been irrevocably changed. .88.111.4.239 17:35, 05 May 2007 (UTC)Revolver66

Frequency (film)

[5] I think I have found a compromise. See what you think. - LuckyLouie 02:13, 1 May 2007 (UTC)

Duplicate image

Sorry- I didn't notice the second image farther down the page. All I noticed was the image link at the top that pointed nowhere. johnpseudo 23:17, 11 May 2007 (UTC)

Help Me

Please help me make a page about John Gordon a Republican running for President i have all the info i just don't know how to set it up. Please just set up a page for me and I will put in the info. Mason789 05:32, 12 May 2007 (UTC)

Re:Portman

Sorry about that, I was deleting slander along the lines of "poor man's Keira Knighley" and helped myself to delete uncited stuff along the way. If you wish to keep GA, I advise that you keep citing stuff for the article rather than rely on another. Alientraveller 07:48, 23 May 2007 (UTC)

A retort from the user you just reverted

Hey, thanks a lot, man. I don't know why you just encroached upon the perfectly good edits I made to the Phil McGraw article. "Unsourced statements"? WTF? I put the "citation needed" template in there! "Unclear statements"? Nothing was unclear! The bulleted statements were quotes! What's wrong with you? I demand to put those edits back! Hmph! >:( --Wykypydya 01:28, 26 May 2007 (UTC)

Response: The information about the Dr. Phil soundboard is correct. It is self-evident that this exists by visiting the Web site. I got the quotes directly from that application, and they are quoted verbatim, so there can't be any lack of clarity here. Would it make it a cited statement if I provided a link to that online application? And the statement about the "Red-eye" movie is correct because I watched it and that fact is implied in the dialog. It is wrong and deletionist of you to remove unsourced statements that are explicitly declared as unsourced, as the whole point of the "citation needed" template is to allow such statements to be there without being misleading and to give other editors the opportunity to fill in the missing citation (or verify the statement). The "citation needed" template is meant to be proactive so it is fixed later, not to flag content for automatic deletion. --Wykypydya 17:00, 26 May 2007 (UTC)

Beaver Valley Nitehawks

The logo issue has been fixed... I am cleaning up the bot's SPAM. DMighton 02:27, 1 June 2007 (UTC)

Coloboma

You undid my edits to Coloboma. I agree that the bits about Madeleine McCann may not belong there - I would like to discuss this on the talk page. Please leave your comment there. I have readded part of my original edit, however, as it contained valid, and sourced facts about the incidence of coloboma. Again, I'd appreciate yours (and everyone else's) comments on the talk page. Lilac Soul 12:10, 1 June 2007 (UTC)

ink blot

The issue has been brought formally through the OTRS system. I'm protecting the article until the ticket has been resolved. I must remind you that Wikipedia is not censored, and if you have copyright questions, you must bring them up through the Images for Deletion process. Furthermore, I should inform you that copyrighted images may sometimes be allowed on Wikipedia through the fair use doctrine. ⇒ SWATJester ^{Denny Crane.} 00:04, 8 June 2007 (UTC)

Disappearance of Madeleine McCann

Hi, thank you for your interest in this article. Following the article split there may be some dead links. If you find any, please fix them rather than removing them, as I have done here. TerriersFan 01:55, 8 June 2007 (UTC)

About the Ruth Graham pic

Thank you for your timely response. I wasn't sure about the copywrite, but I felt the lady deserved her picture in her article, mostly because her husband is a very classy individual and is not one of those teleevangalists who will cheaply whore themeselves just for money. Billy Graham is seriously concerned about the souls of this nation and because his wife didn't have a photo for her article, I felt it nessicary to have a photo to go with her article. Elwin Blaine Coldiron 03:25, 17 June 2007 (UTC)

Disabled protagonists

Oops. I am going to go through now and replace that with [[Category:Lists of films with disabled protagonists]]. Thanks for the heads up. — Ocatecir^T 01:23, 25 June 2007 (UTC)

I believe I have conformed to what was stated

As the quotations I change now are not that of titles. As I understand it that was the only thing wrong with my corrections. If that is not so than I must inform you that correct grammatical form in English is that quotes are on the outside of punctuation marks such as periods, commas, colons, and semicolons. I have conformed to to that of titles however.

Use of English

I noticed you had left a notice on my talk page. I usually use British spellings but since Frequency is an American film, I thought it best to use American spellings (and terms). Sorry if I slipped up a little. :-) -- My NameIs URL 00:57, 27 June 2007 (UTC)

Maria Goretti

well, hello , first. I deleted a link in Maria Goretti that was linking to an advertising page or at least sends pop up that crashed my browser. Should have mentionned it. User:Shagada

Hannibal Rising

HIhi. I was actually reverting link spam by 60.240.98.88, who's sole objective seems to be to add scenefilms to popular film articles. When I was reverting Hannibal, I noticed two other links were also questionable (one linked to a forum, the other to a fan site of one of the actresses). Perhaps using the justification of non-official was incorrect (I left imdb etc), non-notable may have been better. Scenefilms is definitely non-notable, and falls under WP:EL's links to avoid ("Links mainly intended to promote a website.") but I've added back the forum on reflection. Apologies if I appear over-zealous, I've had to remove a lot of links people simply add to promote their own websites. Hope you understand! Thanks! Fin©™ 18:35, 18 July 2007 (UTC)

Citation

Which instance (of claiming citation needed) are you speaking of? Dogru144 17:46, 21 July 2007 (UTC)

No problem. Thanks for the apology. Dogru144 00:02, 22 July 2007 (UTC)

moving on

Okay, we both had a little snipe at each other. I was annoyed because when you deleted the trivia you didn't move it, and I'd spent a while getting the Banksy links. And yes, I 'inexplicably' (or 'accidentally') removed the link. Which you spotted and restored. Well done.

Shall we move on? Hand of friendship and all that? raining girl 17:41, 23 July 2007 (UTC)

Cheyenne Kimball

Thank you for courteously pointing out my mistake. I had reverted from 141.157.223.216's contribs list and I missed your revert. -- Mufka ^{(user) (talk) (contribs)} 02:21, 24 July 2007 (UTC)

Rorschach

Dear Ward3001! Thank you for your support. I saw that, but I hope, we will hit the mark with many other users, to delete these pictures. One of these pictures' discussion page, I've just seen, that the community of the wikipedia had got a letter from Hans Huber yet...... So the intention is delete the pictures! :) Thanks for your perception! Dorgan 08:25, 27 July 2007 (UTC)

Hi Ward3001.

Please, let the pic there! tnx! bye!:)--DrugoNOT 15:13, 29 July 2007 (UTC)

Psychological Testing edit comment

You sent me this message: "Please do not add information to a technical article, such as Psychological testing, in which you have little or no knowledge. The Halstead-Reitan is not a full battery. Ward3001 01:19, 29 July 2007 (UTC)"

I have a PhD in clinical psychology and am licensed to practice, so your comment is incorrect. I had thought to take out the reference to "full battery assessment" entirely; this term is not commonly used any more in this day of controlled cost and managed care. However, someone did go to to the trouble of putting this in and having a reference to it, so I was conservative in my edit. I could not think of any other "full battery" type reference than H-R. Indeed, some organizations do have specific requirements, e.g., VA, for particular assessments, but those admin requirements don't have anything to do with general practice terminology, rather are administrative. I was in the process of adding more up to date information, using the SPA (Society for Personality Assessment - Division of APA) and APA's more general info. Would you support removal of the "full battery" reference completely, b/c that is really what I'd like to do. Fremte 01:37, 29 July 2007 (UTC)

Perhaps you would consider being a little less abrupt in your posts to others' talk pages and refrain from stating conclusions until you have data on which to base them. Such would be consistent with a data-driven approach versus relying on initution. It would involve minimal psychological acumen to anticipate that such abruptness would not be particularly well-received by other users. This response is only to respectully provide you with some feedback re this exchange with you Fremte 03:01, 29 July 2007 (UTC)

Abraham Lincoln assassination

Please note the section you've re-added violates our policies on WP:OR, WP:RS, WP:SPAM, and WP:COI. Rklawton 15:26, 31 July 2007 (UTC)

It does not violate any of those. Rklawton has requested that the Lincoln flag section be made into a new article. After discussing it thoroughly with him, he agreed that the only problem with the content was its location in the Lincoln assasination article. I am currently working on a new article. Thank you for trying to repost the information though.

(MandyBarberio 19:04, 31 July 2007 (UTC))

Yes. I made a couple of mistakes in my earlier edits & comments. We need the spam link because the content is copyrighted GDFL to that site. The information itself is (may be) sourced to other sites. I think the information is too detailed and trivial for the assassination article, but a new article might solve that problem. Rklawton 19:13, 31 July 2007 (UTC)

Thank you again for your support. I agree that there is not enough information for a new article, but I am doing some research to try to add to it. (MandyBarberio 19:50, 31 July 2007 (UTC))

And yes the article had 2 relevant references. Originally I had placed these under external links, but after the citation notice, I moved them under the Lincoln Flag section. I was trying to figure out how to cite them in the same manner as the rest of the page (I'm new to Wikipedia), but before I could, the section was gone. (MandyBarberio 19:56, 31 July 2007 (UTC))

Thank you for the citing info. (MandyBarberio 12:32, 1 August 2007 (UTC))

I have rewritten and expanded on my original article- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lincoln_Assassination_Flags. I put in footnotes, but I wanted to make sure they looked right. I wasn't sure if there was a way to designate a number to a source so the same sources don't repeat in the list. Let me know please! Thanks! (MandyBarberio 19:27, 2 August 2007 (UTC))

I don't have a problem with those changes. Thanks! (MandyBarberio 14:27, 3 August 2007 (UTC))

I-35 bridge collapse

Thanks for the head's up. If no one removes it in the interim, I'll be sure it's gone once this ceases to be a major story (I'll say that relative to local news since it may fall off of CNN before the rescue effort ends). --Bobak 14:22, 2 August 2007 (UTC)

Warning to me

Why did i get a warning for my edit on Sigmund Freud? The guy was a Jewish supremacists, i can give you many sources to prove it. But let face it: Wikipedia is owned by Jews so it wouldn't matter. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 212.162.164.144 (talk • contribs)

Five-Point-Palm Exploding Heart Technique

I also see your point. As a consequence, I also made a slight change. Check out the revised version if you like. --Da Vynci 00:32, 5 August 2007 (UTC)

Merge discussion in Međugorje

I have updated the merge discussion in Međugorje. patsw 17:59, 5 August 2007 (UTC)

taylor momsen pic

I was under the impression that copyrighted pics were allowed under a claim of fair-use. I've seen many examples of fair-use pics on wikipedia and was just following their example. Also, I didn't mean to imply that the pic was owned by imdb, that's where I found it but they obviously don't own the copyright because imdb wasn't the creater of the image. If I linked it to her official site would that be enough? Ospinad 14:37, 8 August 2007 (UTC)

"if copyrighted pics were allowed under a claim of fair-use then what's the point of having a copyright law?"

Using an image under fair-use is not a violation of copyright the same way that taking a vid cap of a movie is not a violation of copyright. If I were to make hundreds of copies of a DVD that I owned and sold them for a profit that would be a violation of copyright. But I am not making any money off of these pics and I am not preventing anyone from making money off of them so why is it still wrong?

"Examples of unacceptable use: An image of a living person that merely shows what s/he looks like."

Show me a picture of a person that doesn't show what s/he looks like. That's what pictures of people do. That's what pictures of anything do. They show what the thing looks like.

"And finally, did it occur to you to wonder why you have gotten frequent warnings when you upload images? Please err on the side of caution. If you're not sure that an image is OK to put in an article, then don't put it in.

No, it's never occurred to me to wonder why. The other times it was because I didn't add a fair use rationale immediately after or at the same time that I uploaded the image. Once I did, I never got any problem. Actually this is the first time I've gotten a reaction like this. Ospinad 01:52, 9 August 2007 (UTC)

Sorry for being such a pain, I had to take a shot, you know? Hey, is there anyway for me to just delete the image myself? Ospinad 13:22, 10 August 2007 (UTC)

Goodfellas

Hey,

Sorry about that. I know about citing sources, and thought I had put it in. It was 2:00 AM where I live. --MosheA 17:44, 9 August 2007 (UTC)

timeline

as i recall tere was a fairly indepth plot summery before and it was cut down to nothing after a while i'll leave the timeline up untill we reach a consencus on the matter --Manwithbrisk 22:47, 10 August 2007 (UTC)

Phil McGraw

If you want to edit Phil McGraw or any semi-protected article, why not register with a user name? It's simple. Ward3001 18:10, 2 August 2007 (UTC)

No thanks, I have no interest in purchasing an account. 199.125.109.52 13:56, 11 August 2007 (UTC)

"No thanks, I have no interest in purchasing an account." Registering is free, and it only takes about 30 seconds. You don't even have to give an email address if you don't want to. Ward3001 20:59, 14 August 2007 (UTC)

Thanks, but no thanks. If an IP user can't do it, I'm not interested. 199.125.109.52 04:28, 15 August 2007 (UTC)

French link

Amanda Bynes is an actress of international fame. Why prohibit the French links ? I do not understand —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Lauravivier (talk • contribs) 11:17, August 22, 2007 (UTC).

Starlight Express

Please do not revert. See the talk page. Thanks! -- Ssilvers 01:47, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

WP:UAA

Hey, just by the by, could you remember to use {{Userlinks|username}} to report users at UAA rather than just putting a link to their page? Makes it easier for admins to access contributions, talk pages and so on. Cheers :) SGGH ^speak! 22:14, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

Not sure what the difference is between the username template and the above userlinks one, just seems to be what they want used. *shrugs* It just gives us admins an easier time! Hehe. Happy editing! SGGH ^speak! 22:24, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

Wikimania in Atlanta!

Hi! I noticed your involvement on U.S. South-related articles, categories and WikiProjects, and I wanted to let you know about a bid we're formulating to get next year's Wikimania held in Atlanta! If you would like to help, be sure to sign your name to the "In Atlanta" section of the Southeast team portion of the bid if you're in town, or to the "Outside Atlanta" section if you still want to help but don't live in the city or the suburbs. If you would like to contribute more, please write on my talk page, the talk page of the bid, or join us at the #wikimania-atlanta IRC chat on freenode.org. Have a great day!

P.S. While this is a template for maximum efficiency, I would appreciate a note on my talk page so I know you got the message, and what you think. This is time-sensitive, so your urgent cooperation is appreciated. :) Mike H. I did "That's hot" first! 01:39, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

Tweety21 and suckpuppets

If you have proof this guy is socking, and doing so in an abusive manner, then post it here: Wikipedia:Suspected sock puppets. Otherwise, you can't go putting that sock template on his page. It's just not fair. --UsaSatsui 22:08, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

Tweety21 and sockpuppetry

I'm considering trying to make a case against Tweety21 for sockpuppetry. I don't have any doubt that she used multiple IPs to vandalize and cast multiple votes in the Arden Wohl debate, but I need evidence. I already having very clear evidence of her using 142.205.212.5 to vandalize, but I was wondering whether you had any evidence when you indicated that Tweety21 also voted as 74.110.247.117. If so I'd appreciate your passing it on to me. Please note that it's Tweety21's (and alias's) behavior that I'm trying to get to the bottom of. If the Arden Wohl article eventually makes it I have no problem with that. In fact, I think the most damage to the article's chances of survival were inflicted by Tweety21. Thanks. Ward3001 22:42, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

I don't think I have any incontrovertible evidence, but she didn't really try to hide her identity (if so, she did a terrible job). She edits the same articles from all of those IPs, uses the same :O) emoticon in her comments, even signs things "Tweety". The multiple !votes really seemed more like an ignorance of WP policy (something she appears to do willfully) than an underhanded attempt at sneaky sockpuppetry. Let me know if I can help you out with anything else. Precious Roy 10:08, 10 September 2007 (UTC)

OK, I take back the idea that it might not be sneakiness. The new comment at the DRV seems to take care of any attempts at WP:AGF. Precious Roy 16:31, 11 September 2007 (UTC)

==Tweety21 and sock puppets== hahaha sounds like a cartoon...you and Precious need to get out more and live a little..instead of losing sleep at night wondering about sock puppets.. Cheers! Are you dudes for real?? seriously!! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 142.205.212.5 (talk) 19:44, 11 September 2007 (UTC)

Sockpupeteers and other world crisises

I live in a cave in Afganistan, with 25 husbands. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 142.205.212.5 (talk) 20:47, 13 September 2007 (UTC) I feel real bad about making Tweety21 worry about our personal lives; it's rather inconsiderate of us both. I hope you're proud of yourself. Precious Roy 05:25, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

I tossed and turned all night thinking about it ... no wait ... maybe I was thinking about telling my wife that someone suggested I find a girlfriend. Ward3001 16:57, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

Yeah, my wife didn't take to kindly to the suggestion, either (I figured it was worth a shot, you know?). Precious Roy 17:05, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

Renaming

If she wishes to withdraw her request for a rename she can do so. It is wrong to reinstate it. By editing pattern it appears that she is also User:142.205.212.5. The correct place for this sort of thing is WP:CHECKUSER and Wikipedia:Suspected_sock_puppets. Secretlondon 01:00, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

I'm in the process of adding her to suspected sockpuppets. Secretlondon 01:06, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

Sigmund Freud

Hello Ward3001! How are you? I am RS1900. I read the biography of Sigmund Freud on Wikipedia. I think many criticism of Freud was totally unfair. It is ridiculous to see that the comments of non-notable clown like Richard Webster are taken seriously. I think the biography should be improved. Thank you. RS1900 03:32, 13 September 2007 (UTC)

Well, Eysenck was a notable psychologist. However, he was a supporter of astrology, a pseudoscience. In 1994 he was one of 52 signatories on "Mainstream Science on Intelligence". I don't respect Eysenck. RS1900 03:44, 13 September 2007 (UTC)

I think we should include the views of Eysenck on Freud. Eysenck published the book Astrology: Science or Superstition?. He supported astrology, however; that doesn't minimizes the importance of his opinions on Freud. RS1900 04:12, 13 September 2007 (UTC)

False revert warning

I did exactly 3 reverts, which is "leagal". You gave me a falce warning. :) The Merciful 17:12, 13 September 2007 (UTC)

Count again, pal. You reverted at 08:06, 12:07, 12:11, and 12:43, all on September 13. Ward3001 17:17, 13 September 2007 (UTC)

Hi!

This is agustinaldo replying on your UNFAIR revert edits.

Listen, I have actually SEEN "Shriek if You Know What I Did Last Friday the 13th", "Galaxy Quest" and "Not Another Teen Movie". It's information I gained by actuallt WATCHING THE MOVIES.

Did you watch those movies? I think not, cause if you did, you would agree with me on this and not revertthe articles at your whim.

Not, if you think youshould revert the edits because what I said isn't relevant to the article, that's one thing, but calling me a liar when i state ACTUAL FACTS, now that's insulting.

Not only that, check the "movie connectionS" page on imdb. That proves that I'm no liar. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Agustinaldo (talk • contribs) 19:49, 15 September 2007 (UTC)

Courtesy Ping Re: Pulp Fiction

You reverted a good-faith edit to this page that I believe improved the article. Help me understand why? Thanks. --- tqbf 05:21, 16 September 2007 (UTC)

Re: Tweety21's vandalism

WP:ANB... [is] a bit more complicated and I haven't had time to prepare it, but I think if necessary I'll do it because she's really getting out of control.

Agreed. You can count on me for any necessary assistance; I haven't any real experience with WP:ANB but just let me know what I can do to help. Precious Roy 14:32, 22 September 2007 (UTC)

Re: More on Tweety21

Yeah, I had seen it, but thanks for the heads-up. I don't imagine she'll get anywhere with her ridiculous claims but you never know. Precious Roy 21:29, 25 September 2007 (UTC)

Puppet-sational

Who could this be??? I'm not gonna deal with this until tomorrow but I thought you might want to see. Pr 2.0 23:05, 27 September 2007 (UTC)

This is one sock that I wouldn't worry about. Precious Roy 01:46, 28 September 2007 (UTC)

Tweety21 redux

I wasn't gonna bother you with the new sock, but see User:Wiccawikka, Wikipedia:Wikiquette alerts#User Precious Roy and Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents#Abusive sockpuppet is back. She's been up to her tricks at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Coven (short film), unsurprisingly. Precious Roy 19:23, 28 September 2007 (UTC)

Cool, thanks for the assist. It's annoying trying to figure out where to go with this stuff (ANI seems to take quite a while; do I open I a new sock report?). This time I tried checkuser and that's moving along at a glacial pace (though I'm not really familiar with it so perhaps that's par for the course). Anyhow, thanks again. Precious Roy 19:57, 28 September 2007 (UTC)

Hmmm

Do not revert until a consensus is reached. I admit that is an aproach that does have some followers. Not aparently includeing you however. But please if you think my actions warrent it report me to WP:AIV.Geni 02:26, 1 October 2007 (UTC)

the consensus you claim did not exist. Traditionaly it would be considered difficult to start an edit war that is already ongoing. The closest you could get is to start a second seperate one over a different issue on the same page.Geni 02:52, 1 October 2007 (UTC)

please actualy read Wikipedia:Vandalism.Geni 13:02, 1 October 2007 (UTC)

I hope you didn't take my comment "whatever you or I might think of them" the wrong way. I reckon we might be close to quietening things down, just trying to keep the peace here. OK? MarkAnthonyBoyle 10:40, 2 October 2007 (UTC)

Hey Ward, This is really off topic, but I've been watching your discussion with Diego and I wondered if you might have some tips for me. You seem to know a bit about psychology. I'm doing a Masters on Magic Thinking, and I'm wondering if you have any pointers on that topic? Maybe you could email me? I'd be grateful for any help. MarkAnthonyBoyle 22:22, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for taking an interest Ward. There is a page about it here: Magical thinking. I've got the J G Frazer. I'm particularly interested in |Bruce Hood's work on | superstition. This kind of a murky topic (perfect for a Masters!!). It has relevence for how we revere art works (my particular angle on this). I know there have been a few pieces written about it over the years, just wondering if there might be something in the literature that you knew of. Cheers MarkAnthonyBoyle 00:23, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

Oh well, worth a shot! Thanks anyway. Cheers MarkAnthonyBoyle 02:05, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

Anti-Vandalism Barnstar Awarded

Dear Ward3001. As a relative Wikipedia beginner, I learned a lot from your intervention the other day, due to an involuntary mistake of mine. I share your views on vandalism, & think very highly of effective page patrolling. So enjoy. --Nielspeterq 15:37, 2 October 2007 (UTC)

Robert Jarvik

i didnt know how else to reach you so sorry..but i didnt do anything to robert jarvik. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.184.144.130 (talk • contribs)

Photo

I spent a long time colorizing that photo and you just took it down. You are mean. And I didn't give him blond hair. I mostly just colored his suit and added a little flesh to his skin. Also, I don't see how it is original research to color the photo to make it more realistic. COGENCY. Put it back please. —Preceding unsigned comment added by KarlDorn (talk • contribs) 03:40, 6 October 2007 (UTC)

My reply here. Ward3001 17:53, 6 October 2007 (UTC)

Wiki-alert

You have no right to be displaying work place id-as per prior concern-will be putting in a wiki-alert, I belive you are just doing this as you are ticked I got unlblocked and you are trying to make it like I am "vandalizing" by deleting private info to get me blocked again-pick on someone else! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Tweety21 (talk • contribs) 16:24, 6 October 2007 (UTC)

Reference material

I compiled an annotated list of Tweety21's edits (including her various IPs and socks). Feel free to refer to it (or add your own comments). Precious Roy 23:16, 6 October 2007 (UTC)

It's there now. I had gone through that one's edits before it happened. Thanks for bringing it to my attention. Cheers! Precious Roy 23:55, 6 October 2007 (UTC)

Schonemann

The heritability articles criticized by Schonemann are all from after the mid-70s, not before. Whoever keeps writing that his criticisms are from the early 70s is wrong (as easily varified by checking the reference list). In fact the majority of his papers that criticized heritability estimates are from the late 80s, 90s. Further, the other scholars who criticize heritability estimates all published their papers after the year 2000. In referrence to work done WELL after the 70s.... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.68.179.142 (talk) 20:58, 9 October 2007 (UTC)

Note: 70.68.179.142 (talk) is apparently the same person as User:Charles669, who has been blocked indefinitely. (See comments from these two users on my talk page). --Crusio 00:56, 10 October 2007 (UTC)

October 2007

Thank you for making a report on Wikipedia:Administrator intervention against vandalism. Reporting and removing vandalism is vital to the functioning of Wikipedia and all users are encouraged to revert, warn, and report vandalism. However, administrators are generally only able to block users if they have received a recent final warning (one that mentions that the user may be blocked) and they have recently vandalized after that warning was given. The reported user has not yet been blocked because it appears this has not occurred yet. If this user continues to vandalize even after their final warning, please report them to the AIV noticeboard again. Thank you! Jmlk17 22:11, 9 October 2007 (UTC)

Films

It is POV violation to use that in an intro, plain and simple. The first sentence just needs to explain what it is. 70.226.81.167 02:43, 11 October 2007 (UTC)

Oh hai

You're on the internets and stuff—you're the hottest thing since LOLcats! Precious Roy 12:41, 11 October 2007 (UTC)

Overzealous - Six Degrees of Kevin Bacon

Please don't call me "overzealous" in edit notes. Labeling other editors like that isn't constructive. We can discuss any edits that you or I make on the talk page for the article, and maybe you can avoid labeling me there, and discuss the edits and the article instead. I started a new subsection on the talk page for discussion of such things. Rray 05:04, 12 October 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for the apology on my talk page. I've replied to your discussion on the talk page in the Six Degrees of Bacon article. Rray 15:47, 12 October 2007 (UTC)

Bacon number

Someone suggested that Bacon number should be merged with the Six Degrees of Kevin Bacon article. I lean toward agreeing that this should be merged, but since you've got an interest in the subject too, maybe you could provide your opinion too? Rray 15:53, 12 October 2007 (UTC)

Flags

Hey, im really sorry about that, thanks for pointing it out too, i didnt even realise that guide was on here. (Neostinker 16:49, 15 October 2007 (UTC))

Sigh

Seems like someone forgot to take their meds today, huh? Precious Roy 00:16, 21 October 2007 (UTC)

Kill Bill

None of those links you haphazardly threw at me apply to the situation. If you want to bitch at me for being too WP:BOLD and following various guidelines, fine, but put some sensible thought into it instead of stupidly threatening to accuse me of vandalism. ' 16:23, 23 October 2007 (UTC)

Again, how does WP:OWN apply to anything here? Am I asserting ownership over articles, now? WP:CON is a description of how Wikipedia works, not a barrier to being bold or editing, and I suggest you learn what vandalism is before accusing people of doing such. Hint: It's based on the intent of harming Wikipedia, not based on your personal liking of another editor's edits.

Put together a coherent argument that actually applies next time, please. ' 16:39, 23 October 2007 (UTC)

Feel free to report me for "vandalism". Perhaps then, this idiotic argument will cease. ' 00:31, 24 October 2007 (UTC)

Advice?

This is almost completely unrelated to she-who-will-not-be-named: I did a make-over on the Bijou Phillips article and an anon IP keeps re-adding "socialite" to the intro paragraph list (model, actress, etc). Thing is, the article describes a socialite as "not a professional entertainer", which as an established film actress and musician, Phillips obviously is. I've tried to open a dialog on the talk page (though edit summaries and in notes left on the IP's talk page) but he just keep reverting without comment (and at this point they've broken 3RR, which I have warned the anon about). If you were in my shoes, what would be your next step(s)? I've never been in this position before and was hoping you might have some input. You can respond either here on on my talk page. Thanks, Pr 2.0 13:10, 26 October 2007 (UTC)

Doy! I knew about 3RR but didn't realize there was a specific board to report it on. Thanks for the assist. Pr 2.0 15:25, 26 October 2007 (UTC)

'

Apostrophe's about to violate 3RR on Superman-Prime, I suggest reporting him if you haven't done so already. --CmdrClow 20:47, 27 October 2007 (UTC)

Magnolia (film)

I think that section amounts to original research and I tagged it as such. Ideally, the article would not need spoiler tags because that section which goes too far in-depth (WP:FICT) into undocumented theories and comparisons (WP:OR) would not exist. The debate about spoiler tags is simply distracting from a deeper issue with the article. Axem Titanium 01:43, 29 October 2007 (UTC)

Ok, sure. Take your time. WP:DEADLINE, right? Haha. Axem Titanium 02:21, 29 October 2007 (UTC)

Rorschach comments

Thanks for your note. I am fairly new to this enterprise and was indeed not aware of the history of copyright discussion. Apologies offered. Since you also feel that showing images of the Rorschach is not proper, however, I hope you will take a look at my comments today. I have accepted the fact that copyright and legal arguements are now moot (Actually, I know Jurgen Hogrefe personally and I am sure that he has some additionals arguements, but those are likely to be pretty technical and very unlikely to prevail in a loose and broadly international context like the Wikipedia). But I do think that Wikipedia should hold itself to a reasonably high ethical standard. So arguments such as "We are going to do it because we can," should not be considered sufficient. And arguments that "We are participating in the desctruction of a venerable tool," should be given due consideration. There is a "take down" link attached to the present image display link. It is specific to copyright concerns and is, consequently, now closed. Do you think my "countervailing interests" and a call for an explicit rationale for display might be a sufficient reason to reopen the "take down" disussion with a new rationale?Plskmn 17:53, 6 November 2007 (UTC)

As I said, "I'm new here," so I'll take your advice and not push the discussion further in the article. Two points;

   By "take down" I was referring to the link one sees when clicking to see the card image. It documents a controversy regarding a move to take the view image link out of the article. It makes it clear that the issue is "copyright." And it makes it clear that _that_ issue is dead and not to be reopened. So my question was whether that (internal, specific to the image, not open on the main article) page might be re-opened with regard to the issues I raised (countervailing need to know versus professional concern). Again, howevever, I won't push it if you feel that simply inflames things.
  The other point is whether the agreed consensus--that the single first card image alone is to be shown--can be enforced by those responsible for the page. There are now several external links at the bottom of the article that show more, including one--a Spanish languge version--that, at the link itself, is explicit in stating that it reveals all detail of all 10 images. Can such a violation of consensus be handled "off line"? I appreciate an experienced viewpoint here.Plskmn 06:16, 7 November 2007 (UTC)

ET

Unless you didn't know, leads don't require citations. Alientraveller 18:45, 7 November 2007 (UTC)

"All material that is challenged or likely to be challenged needs a source." This means the lead generally doesn't need cites as it is a summary of the article, and the article cites the information. If you look at the article, you'll see critics acclaiming the film. If you want, I could source that to the RT consensus listing, but overall, it's not necessary. Alientraveller 19:26, 7 November 2007 (UTC)

That's wrong, because the article shows the film has been acclaimed by the AFI, EW, Empire and so on. Anyway, it's not important, E.T. as an acclaimed film is not something to be challenged anytime soon. This is an old debate and frankly it's not an article on anything controversial. Many leads don't have cites because it's cited in the article. Alientraveller 19:40, 7 November 2007 (UTC)

Your saying it doesn't make it so. A statement as sweeping as "greatest film" needs clarity. Ward3001 20:18, 7 November 2007 (UTC)

Lots of films are considered great. Look, it's hardly something worth being fussy over. It's a fact lots of people love this film. How about popular then? Alientraveller 08:44, 8 November 2007 (UTC)

Thanks

...but I give up. I do really appreciate your support. Precious Roy 17:08, 9 November 2007 (UTC)

Email

Please contact me via email, I have a brief message I'd like to leave you. I'm not keeping this secret from JzG or anything (if he cares, I can CC him), I'd just like not to WP:BEANS anything. --Yamla 17:25, 9 November 2007 (UTC)

Deafblindness

I thought it better to move the discussion to the article's own talk page. Hope you don't mind, I copied your comments from my talk page to there. Thanks. ntennis 00:17, 10 November 2007 (UTC)

Re:WF

Yah, my bad, I'm kinda tired right now. I've put the article up for speedy deletion. Thanks for the notice! --Mr.crabby (Talk) 17:33, 10 November 2007 (UTC)

Looks like you have a fan

Ah, the internet, where we always meet the fun people. In any case, you may notice there was a bit of a vandalism spree on your userpage, recently; just thought I should extend the offer, if you'd like me to delete those edits from the page history, let me know. – Luna Santin (talk) 23:52, 12 November 2007 (UTC)

Gotcha, fair enough. :) Feel free to let me know if there's anything else I can do, in that area. – Luna Santin (talk) 23:56, 12 November 2007 (UTC)

Note to Ward3001: User:RockMFR semi-protected your user page. NHRHS2010 talk 00:02, 13 November 2007 (UTC)

You're welcome, but it was really User:RockMFR that protected your userpage. I am not an administrator so I can't protect a page. NHRHS2010 talk 00:15, 13 November 2007 (UTC)

Revert Kim Possible Movie

Hey Ward, I reverted your revert of the earlier revert of the revert of the redirect (or something like that) to Kim_Possible_Movie:_So_the_Drama. There may be real-world information available about this, backed up by independent, verifiable third party sources, etc etc. You don't need me obviously to plaster stupid links wantonly on your talk page, but I am confident that you don't support having an article which currently consists only of content which explicitly falls outside of our criteria for establishing notability: viz. WP:NOT#PLOT, WP:TRIVIA as well as the guidelines at WP:FICT and thus contravenes consensus which, as you know always means 'within the framework of established policy and practice'. If you can add the necessary content to establish notability, please do so. Otherwise I suggest this remain a revert until such content can be reasonably adduced and emended. Eusebeus 22:03, 15 November 2007 (UTC)

• The issue about requiring real-world content has been discussed at WP:WAF and WP:FICT (see talk page of both for the ongoing discussion - you should certainly consider weighing in there). Episode-specific reccommendationsa re at WP:EPISODE. Also, the issue of global versus local consensus, as noted at WP:CON, can be found both there as well as at the WP:AN/I discussion on the specific topic of redirecting tv series episodes. As you are aware, the aggregate of local opinion (e.g. at the Kim Possible talk page) can never outweigh community consensus about policy and guidelines; if you disagree you need to change consensus at the global level. This obviously attains if you think about it in terms of, say, WP:BLP, WP:SPAM or [[[WP:NPOV]]; WP:NOT#PLOT and WP:FICT are naturally no different. Eusebeus 22:23, 15 November 2007 (UTC)

Heather Matarazzo

I thought it was allowed when it is a picture of a character that they played and not a picture of themself? Ospinad (talk) 02:38, 17 November 2007 (UTC)

oh ok, so the pictures in these articles should also be removed?

Tom Cruise
Nicole Kidman
Dakota Fanning

I'm talking about the last one in those three.

Lindsay Lohan has 4 non free images

Steven Speilberg has 5.

Ospinad (talk) 02:58, 17 November 2007 (UTC)

Yet, I see you still haven't removed any of those images. What are you waiting for? Ospinad (talk) 17:31, 17 November 2007 (UTC)

The Beatles

The Beatles Hamburg subsection: i was definetly too fast in putting those informations in a such important article and i apologize, however a personal website (as you stated) was not used and I dont want to be accused of such behaviour. One of the websites was the official site of Croatia Records (ex- Jugoton), formerly the biggest record label in former Yugoslavia which also released The Beatles for the domestic market; the second site was the Belgrade-based political affairs weekly magazine "Vreme" (editorial board), and the third was Ivo Robić's official website not maintained personaly by him, cause he passed away in 2000, but by a Zagreb-based museum devoted in his honour. Unfortunatelly the last website has some technical problems so I had to use that poor google cash version. I dont object about your rightful action, I just wanted to clear up the misunderstanding. I will try to find English language sources --Dzole (talk) 20:24, 17 November 2007 (UTC)

No one

Quote: "No one" is preferred in English. Almost no one uses noöne. Please stop. Ward3001 19:56, 17 November 2007 (UTC)

Okay. I will. Thank you for your concern. We should use noöne. It is better. I think. I am en-N. End.

The Beatles and "All Those Years Ago"

I object to the wording you reverted to because it wrongly conveys the impression that the three surviving Beatles used the occasion of their bandmate's death to reconcile old differences and come together to record a new song in the same recording space. Unless I am mistaken, this was not the case, and, unless I am forgetting something, never was until work on the Anthology project. Please explain the reason to preserve misleading wording when more accurate wording is available. Robert K S (talk) 04:43, 18 November 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for your message! Robert K S (talk) 05:06, 18 November 2007 (UTC)

removing flags

Can I make a suggestion? when you are removing flags can you at least mark your edits as "minor" that way if I choose to I can keep them off my watchlist by clicking "hide minor edits". You just happened to hit on every page I was watching and nearly doubled my watchlist in a few minutes, lol. I hope that's not too much to ask. Ospinad (talk) 01:00, 19 November 2007 (UTC)

You also have a strange way choosing which pictures you remove. I see you just edited Vivien Cardone, Kristen Stewart‎, Emma Roberts, Jordan Todosey‎ & Amy Castle when you removed their flags. As you were doing that you took out the non free pictures in Vivien Cardone and Amy Castle but left the one in Jordan Todosey and the two in Emma Roberts and the two in Kristen Stewart. Why do you do that? Ospinad (talk) 01:08, 19 November 2007 (UTC)

O I C. For some reason I thought you took removing non free images more seriously than that. Oh well Ospinad (talk) 01:40, 19 November 2007 (UTC)

Andy Griffith Show

Hi. Regarding the trivia/cultural references in the The Andy Griffith Show article, I'd like to remove the entire section if possible. I try not to go crazy and delete an entire trivia section because, inevitably, someone who loves trivia will add it back which is why I try to respect the pop culture reference sections in articles even though they are basically trivia facts. Re-tagging it and citing it for references doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me, meaning that people rarely cite trivia or cultural references section and leaving it in the article with a tag leaves it in the category of having trivia to begin with. As a volunteer with WP:WPTCU, leaving it tagged sort of shoots the whole project in the foot. Personally, I don't think the info adds anything to the article and it is unsourced which basically makes it subject for deletion. I know two editor agreeing certainly isn't a consensus, but seeing as the talk page is fairly inactive, if you agree with me about removing the content, I'd like to do so ASAP. The two of us agreeing on a matter will probably go down a lot better than one person removing content. I've consulted editor assistance regarding the matter and so far, I've been told to remove it. Please let me know what you think about it. Thanks. 07:24, 23 November 2007 (UTC)

Intelligence

Gee, it's an obvious fork of the article, and I said so in my edit comment. Curious Blue (talk) 14:32, 23 November 2007 (UTC)

Lolita

The part I deleted in the Lolita article was certainly a legitimate edit. I removed the "Trivia sections are discouraged etc." tag on the section of the article called "Influence on Language and Popular Culture." That's definitely a valid part of any respectable article on the book, and is certainly not a "Trivia" section. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.80.154.236 (talk) 01:55, 25 November 2007 (UTC)

Sally Hemings

Thanks for your comments on use of names. The original text "a male in Jefferson's line, possibly (but not conclusively) Jefferson himself" was technically ambiguous; many "males in Jefferson's line" are "Jefferson". In my view Thomas was best (shorter than repeating Thomas Jefferson), but the full forename+surname is perfectly clear. The minor wording and parenthesis is trivial. My reason for contacting you is to ask you where the Wikipedia rules on names that would rule out plain "Thomas" are; I looked but didn't find them. I'm not trying to dispute that the rule exists; I might actually propose that exceptions should be made when clearer, particularly when several people of the same name exist. I've changed things like "Smith's father" to "John Smith" or "John" (Smith's father is also Smith) in several places. (Examples are my edits a while ago in Benedict Arnold, and recently in George III of the United Kingdom. Best wishes, Pol098 (talk) 03:47, 28 November 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for your response, where you pointed me to the Wikipedia: Manual of Style (biographies). I've made a suggestion in the Talk page there (follow the link above). Best wishes Pol098 (talk) 13:31, 28 November 2007 (UTC)

Clapton

So how exactly is adding direct quotes by Eric Clapton, with a reliable source plainly provided (The Observer/Guardian Unlimited), "vandalism"? And worthy of threatening to block me? I would have thought adding factual, sourced information to Wikipedia couldn't possibly be vandalism, regardless of whether you approve of the contribution. I think it's outrageous you've just accused me of "vandalism" and threatened to block me for adding Clapton's own words to his biography. Besides, I would have thought it might be relevant to point out to readers that Clapton did not merely express anti-immigration sentiments that night but made statements such as "throw the wogs out" and "keep Britian white", this may help explain why so many people were so angry at him and why he was widely accused of racism. Or is ol' Slowhand's biography intended to be something of a hagiography that leaves awkward facts out if they embarrass him, and anyone who thinks otherwise is to be deemed a "vandal"? Seems odd, if for example John Lennon had once taken to a stage and shouted "keep Britian white", I somehow doubt it wouldn't be metioned in his Wiki biography. 217.38.66.40 (talk) 02:33, 29 November 2007 (UTC)

Fair enough, if it was a mistake then no problem. I had assumed you had just taken exception to the inclusion of quotes that might embarass Clapton but if it was a mistake then fine, cheers for putting it back. 217.38.66.40 (talk) 03:07, 29 November 2007 (UTC)

Hello Ward3001

I'm the user trying to keep the "Clapton's guitars" section afloat. I've been pondering this for a couple of days and I believe the section needs a severe pruning. I think the section should mention the 5 or so tools Clapton has used, the Sho-Bud story, and the signature models from Fender and C.F.Martin. All can be done in a couple of paragraphs, and we'd be rid of the (ever expanding) minutae, at least for a while.

For now, I've added many more sources. I'll draft something in the next few days and put it on the talk page.

Vytal 07:01, 2 December 2007 (UTC)

Help. How do I turn the Sonny Purdue entry from appearing as commentary to wiki accepted documentation? Sorry, I'm new at this. Wasn't trying to be biased but to identify/add other tidbits to the story. My apologies if I failed in my attempt. Thanks! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.55.170.122 (talk • contribs)

Rorschach ink and Rorschach wikilinks

ehy dear..

i surf without javascript!! and wikiliks works... so, do not change it until you can't prove the opposite... bye!--DrugoNOT (talk) 11:57, 6 December 2007 (UTC)

are you out of mind? I don't want ot offend you; but seems like you don't understand. I HAVEN'T removed the link. Have you got it? I surf without javascript and any links works (except javascript based links). I've replaced a non-standard HTTP-LINK with a standard WIKI-LINK. Wiki-links are everywhere on wikipedia, and they all works fine with all browsers (just like a http link does).Btw, both kind of links are recognize even if javascript is turned off (in the internal wikipedia's subsystem, wikilinks differ by http-links only because they have a different CSS class associated with them). For internal linking and interwiki linking, you MUST use wikilinks in place of httplinks. If you'll file a vandalism report, i don't care. Maybe in this way, you can finally kick yourself out of wikipedia. Anyway i haven't found the discussion about the consensus you are talking about. Inside the talk page i don't see a discussion about this point, or at least i've not found out it. So can you write me the direct link about the discussion?, where people prefer a httplink in place of a wikilink?...i'm curious... Bye..--DrugoNOT (talk) 16:38, 6 December 2007 (UTC)

yeah, you are right about the "calm down", but you are not about my request. Can you paste in my talk page the link or the important points of the discussion about the consensus; really i don't find them. I'm waiting...--DrugoNOT (talk) 17:42, 6 December 2007 (UTC)

Well, i've already read the talkpage; there are discussions about the javascript and its problem with browsers lacking of javascripts. But there aren't discussion where people talk about having a HTTP-Link in place of a Wiki-Link.... or i have to be blind, because i always miss it!

If you look at my edit:

• http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Rorschach_inkblot_test&oldid=176133028

And the current page:

• http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rorschach_inkblot_test

you can see that i haven't removed the link, but i've only changed its style... as required by wikipedia for internal linking and interwiki linking. Since internal links on wikipedia *must* be made with wikilinks, i don't see any reason why you have cancelled my edit. So far..

Let me know something more about ur point; because i feel like you haven't understand about what i'm talking.... or maybe ask to some "technical-admin", so he'll explain to you better.

In short: on wikipedia you must have wikilinks everytime this is possible, so you must have wikilinks in place of full-httplinks.

And this discussion does not exists on the talkpage...!

Bye --DrugoNOT (talk) 19:33, 6 December 2007 (UTC)

ok, i've did it. Let's see what will happen...--DrugoNOT (talk) 20:44, 6 December 2007 (UTC)

"Hello" from the "SPA vandal"

Hello Ward3001. I consider the hatchet buried. I do have my own ID (which I'm using now) and would have started using it in the ensuing discussions, but I'm trying to keep this ID anonymous to my students at work, so links on the school's talk page with my username wouldn't have been smart. While I am not exactly new to Wikipedia, I admit ignorance about Wikipedia policy, and even more about the way things actually go down (Like, the very first point in the Policy --also the only one I'd read-- is that I should "be bold" with my edits, but I just found out from you and that other guy who's jumped in it's actually more acceptable to propose an edit on the talk page first, build consensus, and then finally do it. Who knew?). Anyway, I knew that a policy existed, so I went and read it. That's how I was able to quote it to you. For the record, it was just a fly-by edit on a page I was reading, and I don't really care enough about the topic to dedicate the time to coming back and debating it. I'm not invested at all. --Atkinson (talk) 04:33, 8 December 2007 (UTC)

Rorschach Images

I thank you for your post on my talk page, And I did comment on the Rorschach article talk page about why does this need to be taken out.

I am very willing on taking an argument with the guys that say "because we can". My argument is that the search of knowledge only has meaning because we are humans and it furthers the cause of humankind. Anybody understands how publishing the answers for a test let's say the SAT, renders the test useless. So how is that an humankind enterprise like wikipedia is supossed to be on the side of people that do not care for the mental health of other people.

If we were talking of a remote website ran by a couple of people my arguments would not hold. But the wikipedia has trascended that and is not represented by a few guys that want to do things "because they can".

Who are these people anyway, I left a message on the talk page, will this reach them? Is ther any other way to catch their attention. I will try to recruit many psychologists to help this situiation.