Talk:Spelt

Spelt is also sometimes used in the English lanuage to denote the 'past tense' of spell (vis: He spelt it wrong.)

I agree. Just my opinion, I don't think that takes more than your mention here.

It's an incorrect usage. It should be mentioned in the article.Methulah 06:47, 20 September 2006 (UTC)

"It's an incorrect usage"- Wrong. American English is not the only way of spelling words (even if your spell-checker assumes otherwise). Spelled is American, spelt is British, simple as that. And I don't believe it needs mention in the article, since there is an article on English spelling variants anyway.99.251.230.51 (talk) 18:59, 24 January 2008 (UTC)

This spelt (wheat) is often called speltz or spelts in English. I think that redirect entries should be entered for them. If someone agrees, maybe they could be added. Or if you disagree, discuss it. Gene Nygaard 12:38, 13 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Congratulations - Spelt was featured in the 2006, January 11 edition of the Minneapolis/Saint Paul Star Tribune, in a what is spelt? link.

Thanks for this! Glad the page supports the FDA view.Mark Nesbitt 20:54, 11 January 2006 (UTC)

Blood type

Hi - I removed the reference to blood-types and wheat as (a) a paragraph on this alternative therapy is not appropriate to this page (could go to Blood type diet no problem]] and (b) there is no scientific evidence for the dietary specifics. See: [1] for blood-types and [2] for why spelt is absolutely not suitable for coeliac sufferers. If you'd like to return to this topic, I propose we discuss it here on the talk page first. Mark Nesbitt 21:34, 5 February 2006 (UTC)

Spelt is one of the few grains substituted for wheat by some people with wheat intollerance, so at least some of the removed content certainly seems relevant for this article. Although spelt is not a suitable substitute for those with a true wheat allergy or celiac disease, it is tollerated by some people with wheat intollerance. I will try to find a reference for that claim, but in the meantime, I suggest the following content as NPOV:

Spelt is closely related to common wheat, and is not a suitable substitute for people with coeliac disease and wheat allergy. However, spelt is sometimes promoted as a alternative grain for sufferers from mild wheat intollerance.

Also, Peter D'Adamo is not considered mainstream, so views should only be represented as a minority POV. However, since the spelt article is not excessively long, and since one of the main reasons for promoting spelt is the wheat intollerance recommendations, a sourced explanation of his spelt recommendation seems appropriate in this article, e.g.:

Since spelt does not contain the dietary lectin wheat germ agglutinin found in common wheat, Peter D'Adamo controversially recommends spelt as an alternative to wheat as part of his Blood type diet. Observing that WGA binds with antigen receptors particularly strongly on red blood cells of blood type O, D'Adamo claims that the immune system aglutinates and eliminates those bound red blood cells. He thus advocates that persons with Type O blood consume spelt and rice products instead of common wheat.

Any suggestions on how better to note that the mainstream disagrees with D'Adamo? The Rod 07:26, 7 February 2006 (UTC)

Hi - thanks for this. The first para looks fine.

Regarding D'Adamo's work, if spelt is absolutely central to his system, then it probably would be worth adding a paragraph. If spelt is not central, then D'Adamo's work doesn't rate a mention otherwise a similar paragraph would be needed for every Wiki entry for foods that he mentions. Why single out spelt? Spelt has been around for 5000 years and has a fascinating history - in that context, D'Adamo's work seems very tangential. Although the entry is short, that's partly because it's quite new, and it's partly because many core aspects of wheat are covered in other pages.

All this is in the context of Wiki's aim to be authoritative rather than a compendium. D'Adamo's work is not grounded in scientific research and can't be supported by scientific references. The blood type diet entry makes that clear. A huge amount of nonsense (ideas not supported by scientific research) is published on the web about spelt, especially in relation to wheat allergies. It's all the more imore important to be authoritative in this article. Don Kasarda's work at USA [wheat.pw.usda.gov/ggpages/topics/] is transparently based on scientific literature and represents the mainstream medical and wheat science view. Mark Mark Nesbitt 08:26, 7 February 2006 (UTC)

Marknesbitt said "a similar paragraph would be needed for every Wiki entry for foods that he mentions"

I think that's a great idea, perhaps even start a D'Adamo Typebase template apers0n 09:14, 6 May 2006 (UTC)

But Wikipedia is an encyclopaedia, not a guide to fringe diets or a cook book. The place for more info on the D'Adamo diet is surely the D'Adamo wikipedia page. That helps each page keep a focus, rather than being a compendium. Mark Nesbitt 10:12, 6 May 2006 (UTC)

spelt

To use the the word 'spelt' in the following sentence is NOT proper usage in the English language: He spelt it wrong.

Brokenbones 03:36, 19 April 2006 (UTC)brokenbones

Removing unsourced material

The following italicised edit was removed from the Nutrition section as it was added without stating sources:

As it contains a moderate amount of gluten, it is suitable for baking bread with yeast, although, as it has less gluten than wheat, it gives a less successful rise to the loaf. The gluten in spelt is also more fragile than in wheat, which means that the dough may collapse if kneaded for too long.

--apers0n 20:43, 5 August 2006 (UTC)

spelt products

I added the bit about Spelt pasta, it is becoming popular in specialty stores. Joezasada 01:29, 30 September 2006 (UTC)

Can you give some evidence for the statement "is almost always of high quality (probably due to the limited production)"? --apers0n 09:25, 30 September 2006 (UTC)

--nope. I changed it to be less of an opinion statement. Joezasada 19:13, 2 October 2006 (UTC)

Spelt origins

The "Evolution" section says that spelt is the ancestor to bread wheat. The "Early history" says that spelt is a hybrid of bread wheat and emmer wheat. One of those two must be wrong. Bhudson 02:13, 5 December 2006 (UTC)

Have had a go at making the story clearer. Spelt must have been an ancestor of bread wheat, but bread wheat could (and likely was) an ancestor of the European form of spelt several thousand years later.Mark Nesbitt 19:43, 6 December 2006 (UTC)