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*'''Oppose''' pile on/snow etc, bad idea. --[[User:Dweller|Dweller]] ([[User talk:Dweller|talk]]) 21:09, 8 April 2008 (UTC) |
*'''Oppose''' pile on/snow etc, bad idea. --[[User:Dweller|Dweller]] ([[User talk:Dweller|talk]]) 21:09, 8 April 2008 (UTC) |
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*'''Oppose''' because although the soccer World Cup is the biggest by far in the world, it's a bit disrespectful to other World Cups and is sort of saying the soccer World Cup is THE World Cup, which isn't correct. [[User talk:Normy132|Normy]] 05:29, 9 April 2008 (UTC) |
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Despite the overwhelming opposition I actually think this is a reasonable request per [[WP:COMMON]]. What were the recent worldwide television viewing figures for the World Cup, as opposed to the cricket or rugby world cups? And official name isn't necessarily the common name. I think this is a case of officiousness, protectionism and vanity over common sense. As if a particular reader has the reasonable expectation to get to Volleyball World Cup from World Cup. Daftness. [[User:MickMacNee|MickMacNee]] ([[User talk:MickMacNee|talk]]) 03:35, 9 April 2008 (UTC) |
Despite the overwhelming opposition I actually think this is a reasonable request per [[WP:COMMON]]. What were the recent worldwide television viewing figures for the World Cup, as opposed to the cricket or rugby world cups? And official name isn't necessarily the common name. I think this is a case of officiousness, protectionism and vanity over common sense. As if a particular reader has the reasonable expectation to get to Volleyball World Cup from World Cup. Daftness. [[User:MickMacNee|MickMacNee]] ([[User talk:MickMacNee|talk]]) 03:35, 9 April 2008 (UTC) |
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Inclusion
There are about 50 Articles regarding various FIFA World Cups (i.e. FIFA World Cup 2006, FIFA World Cup 1954). It struck me that this article (FIFA World Cup) would be made a lot better if ALL those other articles were included here. This would make a huge article, that could be split into sections, rather that a lot of smaller articles, which would be hard to navigate around. This is worth considering --Will James 03:02, 3 November 2006 (UTC)
- Generally wikipedia tries to avoid articles that are very long due to the technical restrictions of some users' internet browsers. --Robdurbar 17:23, 9 November 2006 (UTC)
I think the list of most goals scored in the world cup should regard a single tournament rather than all of them. For example, Just Fontaine holds the record of scoring 13 goals in one tournament. Surely Ronaldo did not beat that.
2022
where on wikipedia can I get info on 2022 ? Palx 13:46, 9 November 2006 (UTC)
- Well it would be held at 2022 FIFA World Cup; but as there is no info on something so far ahead, it wouldn't have a Wikipedia article. --Robdurbar 17:23, 9 November 2006 (UTC)
- Unlike the 2022 Winter Olympics or the 2024 Summer Olympics ? Palx 10:17, 28 November 2006 (UTC)
Historical ranking table
I have reverted the recent edits adding a historicak ranking table using 3 points for a win and one for a draw over all World Cup matches, as it is original research. Oldelpaso 18:06, 16 January 2007 (UTC)
- Not again! I was involved with this a few months ago. I support your action. --Guinnog 18:10, 16 January 2007 (UTC)
- I see we have acquired rankings for the world cups. I will remove them as they are unreferenced original research. --Guinnog 19:59, 27 March 2007 (UTC)
- The number of tables of statistics also seems to have increased, some of them should be moved to a daughter article. Oldelpaso 20:47, 27 March 2007 (UTC)
- I agree. I have removed the OR and messaged the editor who added it. --Guinnog 20:49, 27 March 2007 (UTC)
- May I add that some of the newly added tables in the #Records and statistics section are a bit unimportant, e.g. #Most Goals scored by a Team, #Most Goals in one Tournament, Team and #FIFA World Cup Runner-up and Third Place captains. Chanheigeorge 20:54, 27 March 2007 (UTC)
- I agree. I have removed the OR and messaged the editor who added it. --Guinnog 20:49, 27 March 2007 (UTC)
- The number of tables of statistics also seems to have increased, some of them should be moved to a daughter article. Oldelpaso 20:47, 27 March 2007 (UTC)
- I see we have acquired rankings for the world cups. I will remove them as they are unreferenced original research. --Guinnog 19:59, 27 March 2007 (UTC)
(deindent) I would support moving these to separate articles or deleting them, as appropriate. I would add the Match officials lists to this category as well. --Guinnog 07:13, 28 March 2007 (UTC)
stupid thing deleted
there was a stupid thing that someone had that said only two continents had hosted games (south america and europe) when south korea and asia hosted one a few years ago and mexico have and the usa has. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 86.136.46.232 (talk) 17:05, 4 May 2007 (UTC).
2030
Well, as it is the 100th anniversary tournament. I would guess Uruguay(1930) will get it if they want it... CHANDLER 06:59, 4 June 2007 (UTC)
I would actually think that the UK or England (homeland of football) should bid for a world cup of 64 teams anniversary edition (only this World Cup), or, all the teams ever qualified go to the World Cup - ¢нαzα93 16:26, 23 June 2007 (UTC)
- Should we add a festival section? For example, adding 1980 Mundialito into the festival section. KyleRGiggs 14:40, 21 August 2007 (UTC)
- No, because it is a minor tournament which just happens to have been contested by former World Cup winners, and is nothing to do with the World Cup itself. Oldelpaso 16:47, 21 August 2007 (UTC)
Actually, all the teams that enter the World Cup of Champions in Uruguay 1980 brought in their first class teams to the tournament. The reason England declined is because of financial troubles and player irregularities. It should be counted as the tournament is not to see the best like the normal World Cup but to see the best ot the best Gethomas3 22:40, 1 September 2007 (UTC)
England shirts at 1970 World Cup finals
During this tournament England sported three separate shirts, examples of which are White vs Brazil, Sky-blue vs Czechoslovakia and Red vs FR Germany. What was the rationale for having so many strips? Was it because they were the defending world champions? Are England the only international team to have worn three different shirts during ANY major tournament? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.66.45.222 (talk) 23:25, 23 September 2007 (UTC)
2nd & 3rd placers
Could you, please, rearrange the map, where you show former republics, like USSR, East Germany, and Yugoslavia. In the smaller map, you show, that craotia won third place - it was, but, its boundaries are not in those borders. You involved Bosnia and Hercegovina in its bounderies. Thanks Do they receive anything? Like a trophy or medals? --Howard the Duck 05:24, 28 September 2007 (UTC)
3rd place receive bronze medals--Blain Toddi (talk) 19:52, 19 November 2007 (UTC)
2nd and 3rd place receive medals, first place receives the cup and medals. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.79.54.47 (talk) 18:33, 4 February 2008 (UTC)
partners
worth mentioning the everpresent sponsors or "partners" of the tournement the likes of adidas, coca cola, gillete, mastercard, toshiba, philips, mcdonalds, fuji film, -Numberwang 18:36, 8 November 2007 (UTC)
3 times win
If a team win 3 times would that team keep the cup for ever like Brazil in 1970 ? I mean if one of Germany , Italy , Argentina and Brazil win in 2010 ?--Blain Toddi (talk) 19:55, 19 November 2007 (UTC)
- The original FIFA World Cup Trophy cannot be won outright anymore, as the new regulations state that it shall remain FIFA's own possession. [1]. So the answer is no. Chanheigeorge (talk) 20:00, 19 November 2007 (UTC)
204 teams in qualification
This is really question, i know FIFA announced 204 teams will be participating, but few teams withdrew before the qualification start, 2 from Asia and 2 from Africa, so 200 teams are really took part, the question, should we change this in infobox, or keep 204 teams? --Aleenf1 05:39, 1 December 2007 (UTC)
Table of captains and managers
I don't think this belongs in the main world cup article, so I have removed it. However, I think it should have a place somewhere, I'm just not sure where. In the interim, I'm moving it here until deciding where it can go permanently. Oldelpaso (talk) 12:40, 31 December 2007 (UTC)
Year | Captain | Head coach | Team |
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1930 | José Nasazzi | Alberto Suppici | Uruguay |
1934 | Giampiero Combi | Vittorio Pozzo | Italy |
1938 | Giuseppe Meazza | Vittorio Pozzo | Italy |
1950 | Obdulio Varela | Juan López | Uruguay |
1954 | Fritz Walter | Sepp Herberger | West Germany |
1958 | Hilderaldo Bellini | Vicente Feola | Brazil |
1962 | Mauro Ramos | Aymoré Moreira | Brazil |
1966 | Bobby Moore | Alf Ramsey | England |
1970 | Carlos Alberto | Mário Zagallo | Brazil |
1974 | Franz Beckenbauer | Helmut Schön | West Germany |
1978 | Daniel Passarella | César Luis Menotti | Argentina |
1982 | Dino Zoff | Enzo Bearzot | Italy |
1986 | Diego Maradona | Carlos Bilardo | Argentina |
1990 | Lothar Matthäus | Franz Beckenbauer | West Germany |
1994 | Dunga | Carlos Alberto Parreira | Brazil |
1998 | Didier Deschamps | Aimé Jacquet | France |
2002 | Cafu | Luiz Felipe Scolari | Brazil |
2006 | Fabio Cannavaro | Marcello Lippi | Italy |
Fully protected
Right, had enough of this. Recently this has clogged up my watchlist. Discuss your issues here and now instead of edit-warring. WP:3RR went by a while ago really. This little dispute will endanger the FA status which was only just reaffirmed. Please discuss your problems here and come to a consensus. Seek help from WP:FOOTY if needed. Woody (talk) 20:20, 7 March 2008 (UTC)
- Since, I made the last revert, I'll add my tuppence and reason why I reverted. I saw the first change by SuperSonicx1986 and was in two minds whether to undo it, but swayed on the side of not doing so. When another editor agreed with my first thoughts, I made the final revert. I feel SuperSonicx1986's edit, while little wrong with them, added nothing that the list currently didn't. However the final par of his edit "Below is a list of the 24 teams that have finished in the top four in a World Cup" is clearly wrong since there are only 11 teams on the chart. Peanut4 (talk) 20:37, 7 March 2008 (UTC)
- Yes, the problem is he's adding back material previously deleted without actually checking whether it matches the new material. The "24 teams" statement does not match the new table, and there were also two same images as a result. Those material were deleted by me (or somebody else?) because of the recent peer review saying that there were too much statistics and trivia in this page. As a compromise, I've put those material in the article FIFA World Cup Finals, which I think is the more appropriate page. Chanheigeorge (talk) 21:39, 7 March 2008 (UTC)
Requested Move
Please move this article to the sole name "World Cup". It is a registered name that does not need the additional FIFA acronym. - Camilo Sanchez (talk) 18:53, 8 April 2008 (UTC)
- World Cup is a very generic term used to describe the Rugby World Cup, the Hockey World Cup, and a lot of other sports. It wouldn't be feasible to put the football one as the only World Cup usage. The "FIFA" is used for disambiguation purposes. Woody (talk) 18:57, 8 April 2008 (UTC)
- Oppose - "World Cup" could refer to any sport's world championship, not least the Rugby World Cup. There's even the FIFA Club World Cup which could lay a claim to the "World Cup" moniker. – PeeJay 19:02, 8 April 2008 (UTC)
- Oppose as per User:PeeJay2K3 above. - fchd (talk) 19:18, 8 April 2008 (UTC)
- Oppose - One hears the full name regularly enough. - Dudesleeper / Talk 19:19, 8 April 2008 (UTC)
- Oppose - "World Cup" is the most ambiguous name an article could have, when you don't specify what you're referring to. There's at least a basketball World Cup, a volleyball World Cup, a rugby World Cup, and a couple of association football World Cups. --Angelo (talk) 19:20, 8 April 2008 (UTC)
- Oppose - 1st of April is a little outdated. --necronudist (talk) 20:12, 8 April 2008 (UTC)
- Oppose due to the existence of multiple world cups in various sports. пﮟოьεԻ 57 20:44, 8 April 2008 (UTC)
- Oppose pile on/snow etc, bad idea. --Dweller (talk) 21:09, 8 April 2008 (UTC)
- Oppose because although the soccer World Cup is the biggest by far in the world, it's a bit disrespectful to other World Cups and is sort of saying the soccer World Cup is THE World Cup, which isn't correct. Normy 05:29, 9 April 2008 (UTC)
Despite the overwhelming opposition I actually think this is a reasonable request per WP:COMMON. What were the recent worldwide television viewing figures for the World Cup, as opposed to the cricket or rugby world cups? And official name isn't necessarily the common name. I think this is a case of officiousness, protectionism and vanity over common sense. As if a particular reader has the reasonable expectation to get to Volleyball World Cup from World Cup. Daftness. MickMacNee (talk) 03:35, 9 April 2008 (UTC)
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