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Appropriate categorisation - should there be 'Category:Schools in city'

moved to Wikipedia:Australian_Wikipedians'_notice_board#Appropriate_categorisation_-_should_there_be_.27Category:Schools_in_city.27

Australia-related articles of unclear notability

Hello,

there are currently about 170 articles in the scope of this project which are tagged with notability concerns. Based on a database snapshot of March 12, I have listed them here.

Often, the "locals" can easier decide on the notability of these articles. I would encourage members of this project to have a look at these articles, and see whether independent sources can be added, whether the articles can be merged into an article of larger scope, or possibly be deleted. Any help in cleaning up this backlog is appreciated. For further information, see Wikipedia:WikiProject Notability.

If you have further questions, please leave a message on the Notability project page or on my personal talk page. (I'm not watching this page however.) Thanks! --B. Wolterding (talk) 12:28, 23 March 2008 (UTC)

Crikey - Jana Wendt not notable!?! Thanks for passing that this way, B. Wolterding; good idea. Hesperian 12:41, 23 March 2008 (UTC)

What a weird and wonderful bunch - some of the articles have been deleted already anyway SatuSuro 12:45, 23 March 2008 (UTC)

Signpost interview

You'll be featuring in next week's signpost wikiproject report. I'll get the questions up soon, if not please badger me for them. :) Rudget. 14:33, 28 March 2008 (UTC)

Probably best if you also post at WP:AWNB. dihydrogen monoxide (H₂O) 23:26, 28 March 2008 (UTC)

 Done Rudget. 15:44, 30 March 2008 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/2008-03-31/WikiProject report. Rudget. 15:44, 30 March 2008 (UTC)

Proposed rock music project

There is now a proposal at Wikipedia:WikiProject Council/Proposals#Australian rock music for a project to deal with that subject that has gotten 6 members. Would the members of this project be interested in adjusting the project banner to accomodate this new group? John Carter (talk) 18:00, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

It's quite an old proposal. WP:AUSMUSIC seems to cover the topic well already (although Aus Music theoretically has a much wider scope, its coverage at present is dominantly Australian rock.) Orderinchaos 23:11, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

Agreed, it's taken several months to get five members. I'm not necessarily saying it should be made a project. But, if you want to go ahead with it, let me know and I'll try to adjust the banner to include it. John Carter (talk) 00:32, 1 April 2008 (UTC)

I have posted an oppose at that proposal - It does not have 6 members - one line has comments that are not signed - and another has not signed correctly - so in effect there are 4 or 5 so far - I really think that the current music project is sufficient - if it gets too big then maybe - but to start another project separate from the music project seems unnecessarily duplicating the efforts of the existing project. SatuSuro 10:30, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

Given the proposal has seemingly stagnated and most of the people are now active at AUSMUSIC it's probably not likely to be a problem anyway. Orderinchaos 10:33, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

Tagging song-related articles

A bot tagged many of song-related articles as part of WP:AUS. For example "Irreplaceable", is it part of the project? --Efe (talk) 06:46, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

Yeah, we know the bot's been getting a bit carried away (it's new and still having teething problems). If it's clearly not in Australia's scope, either let us know at WP:AWNB or just revert it yourself. Thanks for letting us know. Orderinchaos 10:22, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

Welcome. I may revert those articles I have watch listed. --Efe (talk) 10:26, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

Home and Away character articles

(copy of post I put at Talk:Home and Away)

I have gone through all of the articles in Category:Home and Away characters, and found that none of them feature significant referencing. As a result, they are now all tagged with reference-needed templates. Some of them have remained so tagged for several months, with no references added to support the real-world notability of the subjects. If reliable, verifiable references are not provided for these articles in the near future, it is my intention to list these articles for deletion, following the examples set in Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Brad Armstrong (Home and Away), Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Matilda Hunter (2nd nomination) and Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Ric Dalby (second nomination). - Mark 10:43, 5 April 2008 (UTC)

Television network issues

Two things to report. Firstly, I have made a village pump post raising the issue of TV schedule sections being included in network articles, such as Network Ten. It is quite plain to me that they fail WP:NOT an electronic program guide, and should be removed. In various places (i.e. here, here and here) I have seen more support (and more persuasive arguments) for their removal, so if I don't get anyone expressing a dissenting opinion on that policy page, I'll go ahead and remove them from all Australian TV network articles (I have already removed it from Seven Network).

The second thing to report is that I have created a large list of fair use images used in Australian television articles, but which do not have fair use rationales for those uses: Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Australian television#Fair use images in Australian television articles. I've listed them there as a courtesy, rather than giving the no-rationale notice. - Mark 02:39, 9 April 2008 (UTC)

That seems a fair response. Less-watched sections tend to attract a lot of cruft unfortunately. Orderinchaos 06:47, 9 April 2008 (UTC)

Converting captain to a dab page?

I've opened a discussion on the Captain article's talk page about converting that article to a dab page. Since the it's tagged as a WikiProject Australia page, I thought I'd mention it here. Cheers. Haus^Talk 17:06, 9 April 2008 (UTC)

• I have removed the tagging for WP:AUstralia - doesn't seem appropriate --Matilda ^talk 01:23, 10 April 2008 (UTC)

Please look this over...

The Lists of basic topics is one of the tables of contents systems of Wikipedia. I've added List of basic Australia topics to it. Please take a look and see if you can improve it. Thank you. The Transhumanist    22:18, 18 April 2008 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates/The Trumpet Calls

Hi, seeking input to help answer a question about this featured picture nomination. I've restored this World War I Australian recruitment poster and a respondant wants to know whether it's iconic. As a Yank I have no idea whether it is or not; frankly I restored the image because there's a shortage of featured pictures for Austalian history and the fellow with the bugle looks like a hottie (grin). Plus it's in public domain. Would some editors from this project please help with background questions? Durova^Charge! 01:03, 20 April 2008 (UTC)

Concern over Aussie newspaper articles

Now, I don't know exactly where to go with this, and i don't know if it has been raised before, so smack me and point me in the right direction if necessary, but I've noticed what I think is a problem with several Australian newspaper articles.

Of the nine state- or national-level daily newspapers that have the newspaper's front page as the primary image for the article (i.e. in the infobox), three of them have front pages related to the Cronulla riots: The Daily Telegraph, Herald Sun, and The Courier Mail. Of these, I know that the Telegraph layout varies significantly from the standard front page layout... I don't read the others, so I don't know if they are standard layout or not. All of these pages, as well as the pages on most of the other newspaper articles, are from the 11 December 2005 edition, the day after the riots.

Would it not be more appropriate to replace these images with images of the front page showing the standard layout used by the newspaper? -- saberwyn 07:06, 25 April 2008 (UTC)

Agreed. Thanks for pointing this out. I'd support replacement with more random (perhaps current?) banners. Orderinchaos 09:02, 26 April 2008 (UTC)

I've advised Australian Wikipedians' noticeboard of this discussion. Orderinchaos 09:02, 26 April 2008 (UTC)

Good idea. A quick look at some foreign examples (New York Times, Bild) shows that using a standard layout (not drawing attention to any particular event) is the norm. 52 Pickup (deal) 09:21, 26 April 2008 (UTC)