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I'm very skeptical

The article says, "...the city will rely entirely on solar energy, with a sustainable, zero-carbon, zero-waste ecology..."

I know the article cites its sources. But I'm skeptical that those sources are accurate.

I suspect that once the city is fully operational and fully inhabited, it will use some additional source(s) of energy, and it will produce more waste than zero. Grundle2600 (talk) 23:30, 22 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Having met the CEO personally I can say he's committed to the vision of zero-carbon and complete sustainability, however the Masdar City is effectively a test bed for whatever research the Masdar Initiative (including, hopefully, the Institute too) end up producing. Unfortunately whilst the City and the Institute have wiki pages, the Initiative as a whole does not due to lack of information. From what I understand Masdar will be submitting its first report on renewable energy in approximately 5 years time. 195.229.235.41 (talk) 07:50, 23 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Well, while building up this article, I didn't really come across much that spoke directly of the Initiative, other than how it relates to Masdar, likely because Masdar City is the more visible and "tangible" part of the project. If you come across any news articles or other verifiable (reliable) sources that discuss the Initiative, please make a note of them here, and maybe we can build an article on the Initiative. — Huntster (t • @ • c) 11:16, 23 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Project leadership

The article states that the Masdar City Project is presided by Sheikh Mohammad bin Zayed Al Nahyan, but after a brief web search I could not find any mention of His Highness in connection with leadership of the project. According to the Masdar web page, the CEO is Dr. Sultan Al Jaber, but no further people are mentioned in this context. --AlastairIrvine (talk) 13:43, 20 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I decided to remove the information considering what you said. I could also not find any information. The only thing I found was that Sheikh Mohammed bin Zayed Al Nahyan announced the project, but it says nothing about him presiding over the project.[1] Leitmanp (talk | contributions) 00:39, 25 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Ahmed Ali Al Sayegh is the Chairman of the Masdar Initiative, and was mentioned previously Sultan Al Jaber is the CEO. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 195.229.235.41 (talk) 08:28, 16 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the reminder, I've added these names to the infobox. — Huntster (t • @ • c) 15:46, 16 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Settlement type

In the infobox, it says that Masdar is a "walled city." I do not believe this is correct. It is not even a city. It is just a future area of the city of Abu Dhabi. Can someone explain to me why they believe Masdar can be considered a "walled city?" Leitmanp (talk | contributions) 22:35, 13 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Because that is what they specifically call themselves here, and references to the city walls are made in multiple other sources. As far as I can tell, while Abu Dhabi may eventually engulf the region, this is/will be considered a separate city, but it is one of those time-will-tell situations. No need to get into the Original Research area by declaring it not to be a separate entity because it may one day be incorporated into the capital. — Huntster (t • @ • c) 23:01, 13 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Okay, thank you very much for your quick reply. I guess we can keep "walled city" until something changes (either during construction or many years from now). Thanks. Leitmanp (talk | contributions) 23:08, 13 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Good deal. Consider, though, even cities and towns which have been nominally absorbed by others tend to retain their own sense of self. My guess is that it will retain the common name of "Masdar City", though again, any real discussion on this matter is still many years off. — Huntster (t • @ • c) 23:51, 13 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Bethesda

The bethesda link goes to a disambiguation page, but I can't figure out which entry is the correct one to link to. Could someone who is better informed than me fix this? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 213.199.128.156 (talk) 10:29, 17 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I went ahead and removed the text entirely. I believe that it was referring to Bethesda, Maryland -- but that seems like a somewhat odd comparison to make. I removed the surrounding text because it did not seem accurate to me (Palo Alto and Bangalore were certainly not built as planned research-oriented cities), and the "fuller expression" wording seemed somewhat POV. I do think that the idea of purpose-built cities is fascinating (comparisons to Los Alamos, New Mexico also spring to mind), but we need to be sure to cite appropriate sources for these comparisons, rather than construct original research ourselves. Skybum (talk) 17:57, 17 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Economist's view

This entire section appears to be a direct copy and paste. Someone with more time than me might want to reword it, or at least put it in quotation marks. 155.245.111.231 (talk) 13:44, 10 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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 : I went ahead and removed the text entirely. I believe that it was referring to Bethesda, Maryland -- but that seems like a somewhat odd comparison to make. I removed the surrounding text because it did not seem accurate to me (Palo Alto and Bangalore were certainly not built as planned research-oriented cities), and the "fuller expression" wording seemed somewhat POV. I do think that the idea of purpose-built cities is fascinating (comparisons to [[Los Alamos, New Mexico]] also spring to mind), but we need to be sure to cite appropriate sources for these comparisons, rather than construct [[WP:OR|original research]] ourselves. [[User:Skybum|Skybum]] ([[User talk:Skybum|talk]]) 17:57, 17 June 2008 (UTC)
+== Economist's view ==
+This entire section appears to be a direct copy and paste. Someone with more time than me might want to reword it, or at least put it in quotation marks. [[Special:Contributions/155.245.111.231|155.245.111.231]] ([[User talk:155.245.111.231|talk]]) 13:44, 10 December 2008 (UTC)