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Thanks for dropping by! Please leave new messages at the bottom of the page. Messages here will often be read by a number of people. If you would rather discuss an issue privately, you can email me. I typically reply here, and, if I do, I will typically tag you in the message. If I haven't gotten back to you in a week and/or haven't gotten to something I said would, feel free to leave a reminder.

Image:MLV1.jpg

The image is a blatant copyvio and I have tagged it as such. The purported source had not even started publishing until 1983. PD-India requires content to be published atleast by 1948. Next time, take the time to examine an issue before you jump to revert. Thanks. Sarvagnya 20:19, 1 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

EDMOND HALL IMAGES

Hello, all the images used are entirely taken out of Manfred Selchow's book "Profoundly Blue - A Bio-Discographical Scrapbook on Edmond Hall" I am in contact with the author and he has given me the permission to use the material of his book (text and pictures). He is the copyright holder of the images which were printed in the out of print Biography on Edmond Hall in 1986, published by Uhle and Kleimann. All the pictures are tagged as such.— Preceding unsigned comment added by Rx7 3rotors (talk • contribs)

There's not much more that I can do, except for adding the author's address for contact in case of any further needed proof. Selchow does not own a computer and has to be contacted by mail or telephone. - Thanks— Preceding unsigned comment added by Rx7 3rotors (talk • contribs)

The permission was given to me to use it under GNU license criteria (for the very purpose wikipedia exists). I wish I could give you a link to Selchow to erase any possible suspicions - I could- actually but again it'll be by phone or mail, Selchow is 72 years of age and never followed up on computers.— Preceding unsigned comment added by Rx7 3rotors (talk • contribs)

Yes. I am in contact with him (have his telephone# and also mailing-address) I just received a letter from him yesterday.— Preceding unsigned comment added by Rx7 3rotors (talk • contribs)

I'd gladly do the same for the trombonist Vic Dickenson (also a Selchow Book) but at this point in time I simply don't have enough time on hand (The Dickenson Biography is over 900 pages!!!) He even asked me if I was going to update Wikipedia on Dickinson as well, as he realizes of what value the site is and keeping those events and people on record for the present and future generations (Selchow was a teacher)— Preceding unsigned comment added by Rx7 3rotors (talk • contribs)

Wow! So basically all my work will be deleted - even though it falls under the GNU criteria according to my explanation - why is it that one's own effort that is meant for everyone else but oneself must always be beyond that of anything else? It would be very appreciated if the pictures could stay up, until I get the letter - that is very, very frustrating I don't think people realize the time and effort on it... very upsetting. Jens Schnabel, RX7_3rotors

J Milburn, thank you for your helpful words in your last note - I'll try to put on the tag you send me as soon as possible, I am sure I'll struggle to find a way to get those on - as I always have so far, trying to familiarize with the system. I am just writing a letter to Manfred Selchow to get him to send a letter to the Wikimedia office in San Francisco, which, I am sure he will. He lives in Germany so it'll take some time. Jens Schnabel, RX7_3rotors

Hello J Milburn, I just spoke with Manfred Selchow this morning, he has received my letter and sent the needed information off today (because of the copyright-insecurity). I have not added any more pictures to the Edmond Hall page, and won't until his letter of confirmation has arrived. Dec. 10th 2008, J Schnabel - RX7_3rotors

Hello, I received the Declaration Letter from Manfred Selchow yesterday and just sent it to The San Francisco office (to Mr.Cary Bass), Jens schnabel, RX7_3rotors Dec, 16th —Preceding unsigned comment added by Rx7 3rotors (talk • contribs) 01:05, 17 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Great, thanks for letting him know. Jens - RX7_3rotors comment added by Rx7 3rotors (talk • contribs)dec. 18, 2008

My internet was down so I just get back to finishing off the page - in the end everything is just the way I said it was, it's a shame that nobody can be trusted anymore - I hate it!!! I'll try to add the tags to the other pic's I'll upload, if for some reason I can't do it, I'll let you know and will need for your help. Jens - RX7_3rotors comment added by Rx7 3rotors (talk • contribs)dec. 20, 2008 —Preceding unsigned comment added by Rx7 3rotors (talk • contribs) 21:39, 20 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Image uploading

Hi J Milburn - saw you added a template to Image:Mine at Gabbs Nevada.jpg, which I created this evening. I know it'll need to wait to have the permission confirmed (I emailed the exchange I had with the creator, in which he agreed to the picture's use under GFDL, to permissions-en@wikipedia.org), but otherwise was the procedure I followed in creating the file OK? Is that template something I should be adding myself? This is my first bash at uploading and, even copyright notwithstanding, I got a bit bogged down in the instructions. Cheers. Gonzonoir (talk) 21:01, 3 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Cheers for the prompt response- just to check, generally should I add that tag myself if I upload images under the same circumstances in future? Gonzonoir (talk) 21:11, 3 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Grand - thanks very much! Gonzonoir (talk) 22:27, 3 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

This Is Halloween

Thanks for the cleanup on This Is Halloween. It was a horrible mess and I just haven't had the time to try to work on it; I'm up to my eyeballs in other Halloweeny things at the moment. Now I can look at it without my eyes bleeding!--otherl left^{No, really, other way . . .} 17:37, 4 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Yourself and Philknight

I apologize for characterizing you and User:Philknight as Don Quixote and Sancho Panza- obviously there is no anti-art cabal on WP. I was extremely angry, and personal attacks were obviously inappropriate. It still concerns me, however, that such a discrepancy exists in FU policy- artwork must be used in the context of critical commentary, but it's acceptable to use album covers and logos merely for the purpose of identification? I understand where you are coming from on images-- when dealing with music there is no reason to use the album cover on more than one article, as it does not add anything much to general discussions of musical genres. However, in articles on art movements, it is important to be able to see works by different proponents of the movement simultaneously, side by side, so that the consistency of style can be observed, as well as the differences. Tyrenius has proposed a collaboration between WPVA members, yourself, and PhilKnight on color theory, so that some model of appropriate fair use in an art movement article can be established. My participation in such a group will be limited, as my views are rather uncompromising and inflammable. Instead I will focus on uploading PDUS works by modern artists and making sure that PDUS works are not tagged as FU and unnecessarily shrunk or deleted. Thanks, and sorry. Petropoxy (Lithoderm Proxy) (talk) 14:40, 5 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

A belated reply...

...to your message of 8th October, which I'd not picked up. I'd deleted you from my contact list - am I correct in thinking it's your Hotmail account I need, not your Gmail?--Vox Humana 8' 19:06, 5 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Re: General point...

Thank you for your helpful message you left on my talk page. I guess I was not as clear about my opinion as I would have liked to have been, so I will try and clear it up here.

Per Wikipedia:Non-free content#Images: "Cover art from various items, for identification only in the context of critical commentary of that item (not for identification without critical commentary)." I was trying to explain that an album cover lacks the critical commentary needed to be considered fair use at its most basic if the album title is not even mentioned in the article. In no way do I think the album title is enough to be considered critical commentary, but it is the first step towards establishing if there is critical commentary. In this case no mention of the ablum title in the article shows that there is clearly no critical commentary in the article that would make the album cover an acceptable fair use case. Aspects (talk) 01:54, 7 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Your Bot

Hey there! Nice to see you. I first saw you in the revision history of Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee. I came here because if All Game Guide really is being rebranded, why not use a bot to do it for you? -- MISTER ALCOHOL ^T ^C 04:01, 7 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Gavin.collins

Hey J,

I don't know if you had ever interacted with him much, but in case you were interested there is a RFC/U regarding him here. BOZ (talk) 17:51, 7 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, man. BOZ (talk) 18:45, 7 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

X Factor

Hiya, I noticed this and would like to point out that Born to Try is NOT the winners single this year. I would like that section removed please. At least Hallelujah has some sources (even if unreliable), Born to Try has non that i've seen! Thanks JS (chat) 19:25, 7 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Cheers! It really bugs me when unlikely, or just downright incorrect information is on wikipedia (even when in hidden comment form). I'll remove the section. Again, thanks! Happy editing :-) JS (chat) 19:32, 7 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Nicola Roberts

Hi J Milburn. I reverted the edit because the user concerned has a history of being disruprive, and her edits to the band members of Girls Aloud as a whole seemed also to be disruptive, and were inconsistent anyway. Discographies were added to some articles, while being deleted from others (see this, this, this, this and this). I'm happy for the discography to be included, but think the same should apply to the articles concerning the other four members of the band. Thanks Paul Largo (talk) 21:12, 8 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Have now added the information to all related articles. Hope this is all right. Thanks Paul Largo (talk) 21:28, 8 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

FYI, I've actually removed the information again. The reason I've done this is because it is duplicating information on the Girls Aloud discography page. There is no real reason to have it on their article pages - I think a link to the discography page is sufficient. However, if you want to revert my edit and put it back, I don't mind. ~~ [ジャム]^[talk] 23:11, 8 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Image:'Roots', oil on canvas painting by Maya Cohen Levy, 2002, private collection.jpg

You nominated the above image for deletion. An editor has added commentary to the Maya Cohen Levy article to support using the image. Please comment back at the IFD if you want. Thanks Nv8200p talk 21:39, 9 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Mahraz Darshan Das Jee & Sikh Extremism

The following discussion is archived. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section. A summary of the conclusions reached follows.

Why are you contacting me? Discuss the matter with the deleting admin, and stop this sniping. J Milburn (talk) 11:11, 14 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mahraz_Darshan_Das_Jee article was deleted shortly after I created the article Sikh Extremism which focuses on religious fundamentalist terrorism. I will come to the connection further down.

There is a section in the discussion of Sikh Extremism titled "Wikipedia being used as a propaganda platform" It seems strangely ironic coming from an editor (Roadahead) who wanted and voted for its deletion, but perhaps that's his intention ?

After I started working on the article Sikh Extremism, a number of pro-extremists angrily voiced to have the article deleted. After a period of discussion all the admins who contributed (Flewis, LeagleEagle and DJ Clayworth) voted to keep the article after checking all the references such as: http://www.milnet.com/tgp/data/sikh.htm

Those of us editors (Enzuru, Vivin, LeagleEagle & myself ) who have expressed its validity have had our contributions monitored and discussed on talkpages, subequently many of our contributions on the discussion boards have been removed and the Sikh Extremism article has had countless vandalism attacks by those (originally wishing for its deletion) now wishing to distort or remove references like GlobalSecurity BBC CBC News Rediff which are being touted as rubbish. I personally have been accused of being an extremist as was Terry Milewski of CBC News whose reference was also removed form the article regarding Sikh terrorism in Canada.

As far as the article Mahraz Darshan Das Jee is concerned in connection with Sikh Extremism, its interesting that this peace campaigner and humanitarian was murdered in 1987 by Sikh Extremists who saw him as a threat to their theocratic politics. He was not involved in terrorism or politics and his article was on Wikipedia prior to the article I began on Sikh Extremism, unfortunately it attracted people who wanted his article deleted simply on grounds of copyright which are not even copyrighted anyway and can be freely distributed, but it wasn't even asked if it could be reverted back to its version prior to the creation of Sikh Extremism article

If you can put this back, to that version which can be worked and expanded on before user:Roadahead condemned it to the dustbin, I and many others would appreciate it.

I would also like point out that the ISYF International Sikh Youth Federation was banned under EU, US, Indian & Canadian terrorism legislation across the world. But they continue to operate through the internet through distortion, manipulation through SikhiWiki

If its OK, I would like to create a page on Darshan Das as he was known.

Thank you Satanoid (talk) 20:59, 10 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Satanoid, before you accuse Roadahead of vandalism, please note your own history of vandalism:

I am not the primary author of this article and I luckily came across it while following an extremist editor i.e. author of this article, i.e. User Talk: satanoid. I had a chance to read Sikh extremism and the original article Khalistan movement and found it a distorted form of existing wikipedia article Khalistan movement only. This bad faith article has been created by User Talk: satanoid to satisfy his own extremism and spread hate WP:POV against Sikhism only. It is necessary to go through his history to understand his actual motive behind creating such hateful article which does not make any sence.

His initial Biography

Here is the list of all the IP addresses (registered to Easynet Ltd, BSkyB Broadband) which he has used so far:

90.196.3.244 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · page moves · block user · block log)

90.196.3.1 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · page moves · block user · block log)

90.196.3.2 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · page moves · block user · block log)

90.196.3.218 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · page moves · block user · block log)

90.196.3.246 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · page moves · block user · block log)

90.192.3.37 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · page moves · block user · block log)

90.192.59.43 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · page moves · block user · block log)

90.192.59.97 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · page moves · block user · block log)

90.192.59.194 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · page moves · block user · block log)

90.192.59.198 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · page moves · block user · block log)

Here he has mistakenly proved his link with one of above mentioned IP Addresses.

He was blocked several times because of his same hatefull acts but wikipedia could not find a permanent solution so far.

He is simply using his manipulation skills to spread baseless hate against a religion, which he hates, through this article. Remember, He can delete contents from an editor's talk page and 'can put the blame on the victim immediately afterwards. He, through Sikh extremism, is manipulating information from Khalistan movement in a similar way to spread hate WP:POV against Sikhism on Wikipedia. Khalistan movement was a political movement similar to Indian independence movement. Both of these came into existence because of major independence issues felt by certain citizens of their respective countries. --Irek Biernat (talk) 03:29, 15 November 2008 (UTC)

One point I agree is Sikhiwiki refrences should be removed.--Sikh-history (talk) 13:49, 11 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

All you seem to be doing is copying and pasting the above chunk from a discussion board from the article Sikh Extremism which had a section on Sikh terrorism deleted by you Satanoid (talk) 10:51, 12 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

As for your personal attack on me: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Sikh_extremism&diff=prev&oldid=257268543 Satanoid (talk) 10:51, 12 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Point out a fact, is not a personal attack. You do not understand the basics of wikipedia and your spoofing record stands for itself! Regards--Sikh-history (talk) 15:11, 12 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I am not in a position where I can respond to these comments. I will reply tomorrow. J Milburn (talk) 23:37, 13 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section.

Imperial Triple Crown jewels

Thank you for contributions to the project, Great work, especially on Ajuga genevensis - thank you for creating this well-sourced and informative piece. May you wear the crowns well. Cirt (talk) 00:09, 11 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks so much for your reply comment. I do most enjoy writing new articles and improving articles to higher standards of quality assessment. Cirt (talk) 23:38, 13 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Tagging images for deletion

When someone explicitly states that they created the image themselves, then surely GFDL is at least implied? I know I forgot to add the tag but is it really necessary to put a delete template on the image? Theresa Knott | token threats 18:10, 14 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Rogers Album Image

Hey, thanks for the good faith edit on the image I uploaded. However, I forgot to do a page move to the new article name that the image is supposed to be on, so I'm reverting the edit and completing that page move right now. Thanks for watching that though, just in case it had been an error in the image info. =) CycloneGU (talk) 22:35, 14 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Mohegan Sun Arena image

Concerning Image:ArenaatMoheganSun.jpg

Hi, I recently uploaded a new version of the picture. There was already a picture of the arena there and I had sorted it out with someone that my rationale was acceptable. However, when I uploaded a new version under the same licensing, it was marked.

The rationale remained the same.

Cameras are NOT under any circumstances allowed into the arena except by media personell. Someone who had a camera in the arena (a media person) took this photograph. I then asked for permission to use this photo here on wikipedia. They said they would have no problem with that whatsoever. I licensed the photo properly. I gave credit to the photographer properly. I gave rationale which was PREVIOUSLY accepted. So I do not know why this picture was tagged for deletion.

Thank you, Nickv1025 (talk) 01:16, 15 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

User:Pic Editor96

Hi, User:Pic Editor96 has just left me a very strange message on my talk page. S/he has also just vandalised Alexandra Burke, although s/he performed a self-revert! I get the feeling that this user is just out to be silly & cause disruption. Also, I noticed s/he is on a final warning. Do you think his/her behavior has crossed the line? Cheers JS (chat) 19:07, 16 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Lord Howe Island Pigeon

Gee, thanks. Truth be told, some articles just have better content to work with than others. I'm not sure I should take much of the credit. WilyD 18:14, 17 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

In response

In response to "That's not funny, that's just offensive. I have deleted the image you uploaded, and I reccomend that you start to behave a little more responsibly. Continue like that, and you will certainly find yourself blocked." :

It was a preview/image testing. Tried to preview the page (sorry) Immediately undid revision when I realized it was saved onto the page. Now you can stop being a #$%@ and stay the #$%! off my talk page. Thank you. -- Wilkos (talk) 19:11, 18 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Are you serious dude? You're gonna link me to WP:CIV? I already told you what I did, and why, and no. No sandbox. I was testing image deletion policy regarding copyright. Now stay the &*#$%# off my talk page unless you have something important to say regarding anything besides how you think i'm inappropriate. Jerk. -- Wilkos (talk) 19:20, 18 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Actually, no. I do not want to continue this conversation. I feel you are bothering me and won't stop leaving messages on my talk page when I tell you not to. I also don't want to continue this conversation because I don't want to be blocked over "offending" someone from a mistake I made and apologized for. Oh, I'm sorry, do I offend you? You know what offends me? Wannabe admins complaining about nonsense on my talk page. If you had "respect for the project", you would be doing something productive rather than arguing with a user who keeps requesting you to stop. Quit complaining. Leave me alone. GTFO my talk page. KTHX. -- Wilkos (talk) 19:30, 18 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Okay then. I'm done "sticking it out" with you. You win, God, because I don't want to be blocked by your majesty. And what exactly is '"your" talk page' supposed to mean? Is this some sort of ironic "your"? -- Wilkos (talk) 19:39, 18 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Didn't know opinions were attacks. Sorry. Like I said, I'm done, 'cause I don't wanna be blocked. Wilkos (talk) 19:41, 18 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Image:Alexandra Burke.png

This is a free image, I own all the copyrights. A friend captured the image at the live show of the X Factor 2008 finals, he had allowed me to use it on wikipedia. A noticed has been placed on the image and instructs me to add tags or captions which I do not know how to do. Mevish1 (talk) —Preceding undated comment was added at 17:43, 19 December 2008 (UTC).[reply]

Happy holidays

Thank you for your help since I arrived here. I wish you and yours a very merry Christmas. Best,MarmadukePercy (talk) 04:33, 21 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

RE: Barnstar

Thanks for the star! I'm always happy to help out :-) JS (chat) 13:12, 21 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Woolworths, Merrion Centre

Problem sorted, my mistake. Mtaylor848 (talk) 13:15, 21 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Image permission problem with Image:Heather-mills-500x703.jpg

File:Heather-mills-500x703.jpg Hi, please read the 'fair use rationale' section. I think that you will agree this should allow use of the image. Thanks & Merry Christmas Captainclegg (talk) 13:24, 21 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I think you've got the wrong guy

Sorry, but I HAVE been uploading my own work. I don't know why you think it is someone else's. I take pictures of my video games and put them on here. YouTubeFan123 (talk) 13:28, 21 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Image's don't have source?

You recently posted notices on my talk page that four images I recently uploaded did not have a given source for them. However, they quite explicitly state that they are from digimon channel. If there is any additional problems, then:

The images were replacements for others of slightly less fair-use status - the uploaded images are explicitly released for online information on the subjects, while the ones that were there were from the anime, and if any could be considered infringing, were more so.
The images state the article they are used in.
The images are necessary to illustrate the subject of their article.

Not even Mr. Lister's Koromon survived intact. 13:38, 21 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Happy First Day Of Winter!

Happy First Day of Winter!

RFC on College Football logos

As the NFCC talk page was becoming difficult to navigate, I have moved the RFC to a subpage at Wikipedia talk:Non-free content/RFC on use of sports team logos. If you had the talkpage watchlisted, you may wish to add the subpage also. Best, Black Kite 11:31, 22 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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 Hi, [[User:Pic Editor96]] has just left me a very strange [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3AJohn_Sloan&diff=258400137&oldid=257941478 message] on my talk page. S/he has also just vandalised [[Alexandra Burke]], although s/he performed a self-revert! I get the feeling that this user is just out to be silly & cause disruption. Also, I noticed s/he is on a final warning. Do you think his/her behavior has crossed the line?  Cheers '''[[User:John Sloan|JS]]''' ([[User talk:John Sloan|chat]]) 19:07, 16 December 2008 (UTC)
-FYI, IT IS HE Pic Editor96
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