Talk:Culture of Israel

Opinion

I don't think one can say that this is true: "Israeli culture is inseparable from Judaism which preceded it (i.e. dated earlier than the Israeli Declaration of Independence, on May 14, 1948). However, this article concerns only the cultural aspects of the modern Israeli state." Of course there is arelationship but it's not inseperable.— Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.65.129.18 (talk • contribs) 12:48, 20 January 2005 (UTC)

Literature

I know that Yosef Chaim Brenner and Micha Berdichevsky also wrote in Hebrew. I was wondering whether there is a reason they shouldn't be mentioned here... -- Jmabel | Talk 00:00, Nov 19, 2004 (UTC)

They should definitely be listed at List of Hebrew language authors, but I wouldn't list them here. (In fact, they ARE both listed there, under alternate spellings: Yosef Haim Brenner and Micha Josef Berdyczewski. If and when they ever get their own articles, there will have to be redirects set in place.

No one has ever set a rationale for who to list at this article, and frankly it's a bit of a mess, with some entries I find to be downright embarrassing (Natalie Portman, for example. Is being born in Israel enough to qualify one as an Israeli artist? Not in my opinion). I don't like setting forth my own opinions and tastes as canonical. But Brenner and Berdichevsky, despite historical significance, are not popular enough in modern days, even in academic circles, to merit being listed in a "top ten" of Hebrew authors. Just my humble opinion. --Woggly 08:29, 19 Nov 2004 (UTC)

Thanks for the alternate spellings, I created bio-stubs for them. Turns out Berdyczewski never actually lived in what is now Israel, which I didn't know. -- Jmabel | Talk 19:04, Nov 19, 2004 (UTC)

Joshua Wright

I have doubts about the recent addition of Joshua Wright as a poet. We have no article, I find nothing obvious via Google, can someone please explain who this person is? (If no one can, we should delete the name.) -- Jmabel | Talk 20:11, Nov 29, 2004 (UTC)

I consider myself a fairly literate Israeli, and I've never heard of him, for what it's worth. Also, an Israeli would most likely not be called Joshua but Yehoshua. --Woggly 06:52, 30 Nov 2004 (UTC)

And, given that the same anonymous IP has contributed such gems as "Adamis a fag" to random Wikipedia articles, I think we can safely assume this is vandalism. --Woggly 08:05, 30 Nov 2004 (UTC)

Music: removal of material

The following was recently removed without comment from the music section: "The transsexual singer Dana International won the 1998 Eurovision Song Contest." I don't have a strong feeling either way on whether this merits mention, but its removal without even an edit summary seemed wrong, so I am pointing it out here. -- Jmabel | Talk 05:12, 14 January 2006 (UTC)

I just removed it again. It's true, but I don't think it's representative. Israel has won the Eurovision contest three times - why mention this win and not the others? Dana International is one of many pop singers, by no means the most popular or accomplished in Israel. The fact that she is transsexual brings her a lot of attention, I just don't think that alone makes her worthy of being one of the only Israeli singers mentioned in this article. Also removed website for "The Tribe", this is not a particularly well known group (unlike "Subliminal", who is at least a current chart-topper). --Woggly 06:13, 2 May 2006 (UTC)

Request

Would love to know sth about Israeli dance forms. deeptrivia (talk) 03:27, 2 May 2006 (UTC)

I don't know much, but I've added what I know.--Woggly 06:08, 2 May 2006 (UTC)

Ein Hod etc

These art villages are not relevant. Only in the 60's. Mirnamirna 15:16, 30 June 2006 (UTC)

Remember that we are not only documenting the present-day culture. - Jmabel | Talk 23:28, 6 July 2006 (UTC)

You cannot write that commodor 64 is one of the most promising computers. There is no real artist in zefad anymore. It's a tourist's trap. Mirnamirna 11:36, 7 July 2006 (UTC)

YnetNews

Despite its captioning, the external link to YnetNews doesn't particularly seem to me to be about Israeli culture. Some of it is about culture; some of it is about Israel; very little of it is about Israeli culture. I'm not going to remove it unilaterally, but consider me a voice weighing in for removal. - Jmabel | Talk 06:46, 5 August 2006 (UTC)

Zionism section

The entire Zionism section is a abbreviate version of [1] and has therefore been removed. Please double check that none of the following material comes from that or a similar source. It is not OK to summarize in the words of the original, but the material must be written from scratch. DGG 08:48, 27 May 2007 (UTC)

Poor English

The English here is substandard. The article needs to be re-written!--Gilabrand 11:08, 6 August 2007 (UTC)

I agree and a good portion of the article consists of nothing more than lists RMFan1 (talk) 22:06, 9 January 2008 (UTC)

I agree about the standard of English in this article. The following setence in the melting pot section needs to be edited because it is ungrammatical and unclear: "In a gradual process the Israeli society became more pluralistic and the melting pot derided with the years". Fairlane75 (talk) 15:30, 20 January 2008 (UTC)

Postage stamps and postal history of Israel

For the Israel stamp collectors and lovers, there is no article yet for Postage stamps and postal history of Israel (part of Category:Postal history by country) that would have so many Jewish themes. Feel free to go ahead and start it. (See the other country's in Category:Postage stamps by country that have theirs.) Nothing for Israel on Category:Postage stamps by country neither on List of country articles containing postal sections nor on List of philatelic bureaus. (but just a teeny note on Israel at Compendium of postage stamp issuers (Io - Iz).) This is truly a great shame and pity because Israel, and before that when it was the British Mandate produced and continues to issue the most beautiful and extensive stamps by any country. Thank you, IZAK (talk) 11:16, 18 January 2008 (UTC)

Needs citation

The whole first paragraph is just blather - there is nothing in it that could be properly sourced.

The whole article is lacking in citations, I could put in numerous "needed" tags.

As far as I can tell "Israeli culture" is just the culture imported by the American and European invaders. There is nothing in the article to indicate otherwise. Fourtildas (talk) 04:48, 17 July 2008 (UTC)

Mizrahi Jews

The last two paragraphs under the section of "1950s, 1960s, and 1970s" discuss the influence of Mizrahi Jews. First, I'm not sure that the subject matter fits here. If it should remain, then it would be helpful if some explanation is added of who the "Mizrahi Jews" are.